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posted on 10/9/20

comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
Just read the link you provided op and I don’t see any moaning from Klopp, he’s just stating the facts of the situation. Liverpool spend what we earn, Chelsea as a rule spend Romans money.

In fact, the only person moaning is you. Angry little fella, aren’t you?
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Except that's not correct in the context of what he's talking about, ie the spending this summer by Chelsea!
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I’m more questioning why the op is so wound up with what Klopp has said. Klopp isn’t even moaning....

I don’t really follow Chelsea particularly closely, but I’m assuming this is probably the first time you’ve financed your transfers from anything other than Romans pockets? We’ve pretty much operated on a sell to buy policy for quite some time.

posted on 10/9/20

comment by Hansaplast (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 8 minutes ago
Just read the link you provided op and I don’t see any moaning from Klopp, he’s just stating the facts of the situation. Liverpool spend what we earn, Chelsea as a rule spend Romans money.

In fact, the only person moaning is you. Angry little fella, aren’t you?
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Moron
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Cool answer. I was kind of hoping you would provide me the parts where Klopp was clearly moaning, but you can’t, can you?

posted on 10/9/20

comment by Hansaplast (U1250)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Hansaplast (U1250)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hansaplast (U1250)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 39 minutes ago
Having read a detailed explanation of our finances recently we can't behave like Chelsea just have atm unless we borrow. So yeah if we borrowed loads of money we could but we haven't so we can't.

We've never spent as much in one window as Chelsea just have, we've never spent more than £80m on a player as Chelsea just have and we don't pay anyone as much as Chelsea do Werner.

Now none of that bothers me but I'm not sure what's up for debate here. Clearly some 606 accountants know more though.
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Chelsea didnt spend £80m, Havertz was £75.8m, you bought van Dijk for £75.0m

Yep you are right, Chelsea spend more, a whole £800K, on a player.
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Depends which report you read I guess. I've seen as high as €92m and as low as £72m but yeah the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

Either way we could not spend that this window of our accounts are to be believed unless we borrowed heavily.
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But you did a couple of windows ago, Chelsea is doing it now. Saying Liverpool cannot behave like Chelsea is bollox. Thats the whole point.
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We've never once spent as much as Chelsea have this window, we never had a wage bill as high and if we do borrow money it's not from a billionnaire owner who then writes it off as equity so no, it's not bollox really is it.
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You've been moving goal posts twice now so I'll leave it at that
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I've not moved anything. Look if people think Liverpool can spend £200m in a single window, however much on agent and signing on fees and add £500k+ a week to our wage bill then great but we can't which is probably why we've never done it. Has Roman lent them that money up front and then let it be amortised over time to take advantage this summer? Who knows? No one on here until the accounts come out for this year but it certainly won't be a surprise.

I don't have a problem with any of it personally, surprised so many do.

posted on 10/9/20

comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just read the link you provided op and I don’t see any moaning from Klopp, he’s just stating the facts of the situation. Liverpool spend what we earn, Chelsea as a rule spend Romans money.

In fact, the only person moaning is you. Angry little fella, aren’t you?
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In 2018 he put in another £69m.

I actually think what Chelsea are doing is great for the league and I like Lampard and a lot of their players. I'm really looking forward to watching Havertz this season in particular and the CL should be absolutely mint this coming season.
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Yeah, they’re bringing some exciting players into the league, which can only be a good thing.

posted on 10/9/20

Liverpool absolutely could afford to spend what Chelsea have in fees and wages, if they’d brought in the same funds and ditched the same wage packets.

Each club will fluctuate in what they can afford and of course there’s a difference as you go down the league, but this idea that Chelsea have a model that has facilitated this summer’s transfers is simply wrong.

posted on 10/9/20

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 52 seconds ago

this idea that Chelsea have a model that has facilitated this summer’s transfers is simply wrong.
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Can you expand on this plz ?

posted on 10/9/20

comment by Blue Harvestz (U20893)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 52 seconds ago

this idea that Chelsea have a model that has facilitated this summer’s transfers is simply wrong.
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Can you expand on this plz ?
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Sorry, poorly written, the idea they’ve got a model that Liverpool haven’t is wrong, is what I meant to say.

A cursory glance at their recent transactions and how they’re accounted for will outline how they can afford these fees, and it has nothing to do with having a rich owner.

posted on 10/9/20

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
Just read the link you provided op and I don’t see any moaning from Klopp, he’s just stating the facts of the situation. Liverpool spend what we earn, Chelsea as a rule spend Romans money.

In fact, the only person moaning is you. Angry little fella, aren’t you?
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Except that's not correct in the context of what he's talking about, ie the spending this summer by Chelsea!
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I’m more questioning why the op is so wound up with what Klopp has said. Klopp isn’t even moaning....

I don’t really follow Chelsea particularly closely, but I’m assuming this is probably the first time you’ve financed your transfers from anything other than Romans pockets? We’ve pretty much operated on a sell to buy policy for quite some time.
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Without getting into the whole Roman thing as that's a different debate, it appears to me that Klopps mind works rather selectively, regarding our spending of this summer.

As it stands at the moment we're still a long way from exceeding what we have generated in player sales during the transfer ban.

It appears that many people are totally oblivious of exactly how much has been bought in.

Hence I'm a little confused by Klopps logic, given the spending he oversaw in the 17/18 and 18/19 seasons!



posted on 10/9/20

Stupid comments from Klopp. Obviously intelligent enough so not sure what he is getting at here

posted on 10/9/20

Liverpool have a higher wage bill than Chelsea right now as well. All very odd from Klopp

posted on 10/9/20

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 8 minutes ago
Liverpool have a higher wage bill than Chelsea right now as well. All very odd from Klopp
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It was but I'd be surprised if it is now. Lallana, Clyne and Lovren have left and Havertz, Werner, Silva, Chilwell and Ziyech are all reportedly on six figures, Werner on well over £200k.

posted on 10/9/20

Well over? Where you getting those figures? We’ve shipped out Willian, Pedro, bakayoko, bats (on loan) so our wage bill hasn’t gone up substantially. And we was quite a way behind Liverpool’s wages, the comments are just odd all around really, we’ve been within ffp for many years and i just don’t understand his comments.

posted on 10/9/20

According to the express Werner will be on 170,000 a week?

posted on 10/9/20

It's hard to get accuracy with these things. I've seen loads saying Werner is on £260k, Havertz £150k, Silva dunno but on a free I imagine a good whack, Chilwell 8m a year, Ziyech £100k a week.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportekz.com/football/premier-league-clubs-wage-bills/

This had us £24m ahead but I'd be surprised if it's higher this season. Window is not closed though and I know we pay massive bonuses. Apparently we break even cos our wage bill is so high and so have to sell to buy. We've have spent £155m on wages since March and we make £3m a home game and haven't had one since Feb. We have low cash reserves because we've reinvested everything since being broke under H&G (87% increase in wages since 2015 for example) and do without borrowing can't spend really without buying, or not much. Roman can effectively front Chelsea money and then amortise it because he's got the money now where as we have to wait to earn it. That's fine, absolutely fair and it would be of no surprise to learn he's done that to some extent somewhere down the line.

At the end of the day I believe the club in what they're saying. If people don't on here fair enough.

posted on 11/9/20

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posted on 11/9/20

I think we could borrow some. Spurs have.

I also think we'll spend some more anyway.

posted on 11/9/20

Liverpool do have the funds but still have to sell to buy. Why?

Because they have their full quota of non-home-grown players. So if they need another foreign player they have to sell one.

It really is as simple as that.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 11/9/20

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 8 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
Just read the link you provided op and I don’t see any moaning from Klopp, he’s just stating the facts of the situation. Liverpool spend what we earn, Chelsea as a rule spend Romans money.

In fact, the only person moaning is you. Angry little fella, aren’t you?
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Except that's not correct in the context of what he's talking about, ie the spending this summer by Chelsea!
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I’m more questioning why the op is so wound up with what Klopp has said. Klopp isn’t even moaning....


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Must be hard for you living life in total exaggeration all the time

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 11/9/20

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 8 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Hansaplast (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 8 minutes ago
Just read the link you provided op and I don’t see any moaning from Klopp, he’s just stating the facts of the situation. Liverpool spend what we earn, Chelsea as a rule spend Romans money.

In fact, the only person moaning is you. Angry little fella, aren’t you?
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Moron
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Cool answer. I was kind of hoping you would provide me the parts where Klopp was clearly moaning, but you can’t, can you?
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Its in the article, are you blind?

posted on 11/9/20

comment by Hansaplast (U1250)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 8 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Hansaplast (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 8 minutes ago
Just read the link you provided op and I don’t see any moaning from Klopp, he’s just stating the facts of the situation. Liverpool spend what we earn, Chelsea as a rule spend Romans money.

In fact, the only person moaning is you. Angry little fella, aren’t you?
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Moron
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Cool answer. I was kind of hoping you would provide me the parts where Klopp was clearly moaning, but you can’t, can you?
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Its in the article, are you blind?
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He’s not moaning, he’s just saying what he thinks the situation is as he sees it. It’s pretty obvious really, I guess you’re just too angry to grasp it....

posted on 11/9/20

comment by Hansaplast (U1250)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 8 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
Just read the link you provided op and I don’t see any moaning from Klopp, he’s just stating the facts of the situation. Liverpool spend what we earn, Chelsea as a rule spend Romans money.

In fact, the only person moaning is you. Angry little fella, aren’t you?
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Except that's not correct in the context of what he's talking about, ie the spending this summer by Chelsea!
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I’m more questioning why the op is so wound up with what Klopp has said. Klopp isn’t even moaning....


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Must be hard for you living life in total exaggeration all the time
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I’m not exaggerating though. You’re an aggressive, angry poster, ergo a classic keyboard warrior. Calm down dear.

posted on 11/9/20

Chelsea have moved very intelligently to take advantage of a fortunate set of circumstances. FFP works on a revolving basis. The ban meant that FFP allowed them to spend more this year.

The drop in demand due to Covid has created a buyer's market. Chelsea have taken advantage to stock up on assets they would normally have had to pay more for, which is what businessmen do in times of crisis.

I've no idea of what wages each club pays or of Liverpool's financial situation, but most clubs have been a bit stuck in terms of how much they've been able to spend this window.

posted on 11/9/20

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
Chelsea have moved very intelligently to take advantage of a fortunate set of circumstances. FFP works on a revolving basis. The ban meant that FFP allowed them to spend more this year.

The drop in demand due to Covid has created a buyer's market. Chelsea have taken advantage to stock up on assets they would normally have had to pay more for, which is what businessmen do in times of crisis.

I've no idea of what wages each club pays or of Liverpool's financial situation, but most clubs have been a bit stuck in terms of how much they've been able to spend this window.
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Wages and agent fees have been huge expenses for us. Another thing which has definitely affected us this summer is the overseas quota. We basically have to sell a foreigner in order to bring one in.

posted on 11/9/20

Don't really see the issue with Klopp's comments. The Hazard money and transfer ban has obviously meant you can go bigger than usual this summer, but you've still got a net spend of -£130m, and you're about to sign a new keeper for £20m, plus want to sign Rice who would probably cost £30-50m.

We're talking a net spend of potentially £200m here.

posted on 11/9/20

they spent all the money on new teeths

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