comment by 8==Divock #SLM 🐟 (U22339)
posted 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 12 hours, 24 minutes ago
https://youtu.be/j3eLfA9RTko
Wow it looks even worse now.
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gonna be interesting if nothing is sad or done about it , how far will verstappen think he can go. He could very well go down the Schumi/Senna/Prost route and just take hamilton out if/when he tries to pass him on track
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Black flag and point deduction would stop that if it was blatant.
One thing I do wonder if whether Max will take another engine… his last one was in Russia, another was taken out at Silverstone. I’m not sure you can rely on any F1 engine for 8 races
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black flags are so rare cos of its meaning. to instantly disqualify would be such a drastic action then the people deciding need to be 100% sure with 0 chance of being proven wrong, cos if there was even a hint of regulation not being followed or anything that can counter the decision then massive law suits can follow.
In the instance of last week FIA should have gotten onto the radio and just told red bull to give the position or he gets a drive though/time penalty or point deduction. I dont want racers to feel like they cant race no more but when they make n error then need to see some retrospective action taken.
I think Max is a breath of fresh air, fantastic driver, so refreshing to have someone who doesnt just toe the company line. Quite the opposite of Lewis who has become an uber PC weirdo.
Both are in a league of their own on the track, I hope Lewis comes back to win the title this year as much as he become annoying as a person he is still one of my heroes on track. Max is the bees knees, I have spoken with Max a few times as I have raced with him and Lando quite a few times (online sim racing that is!)
People need to stop being little bi*ches and just enjoy the fact we have a challenge on for the title as in recent times they have been so rare.
Its gotten to the stage that people are shocked when drivers trip over each other at the front....that used to happen a lot more in the past, when drivers could actually race each other
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by 8==Divock #SLM 🐟 (U22339)
posted 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 12 hours, 24 minutes ago
https://youtu.be/j3eLfA9RTko
Wow it looks even worse now.
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gonna be interesting if nothing is sad or done about it , how far will verstappen think he can go. He could very well go down the Schumi/Senna/Prost route and just take hamilton out if/when he tries to pass him on track
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Black flag and point deduction would stop that if it was blatant.
One thing I do wonder if whether Max will take another engine… his last one was in Russia, another was taken out at Silverstone. I’m not sure you can rely on any F1 engine for 8 races
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black flags are so rare cos of its meaning. to instantly disqualify would be such a drastic action then the people deciding need to be 100% sure with 0 chance of being proven wrong, cos if there was even a hint of regulation not being followed or anything that can counter the decision then massive law suits can follow.
In the instance of last week FIA should have gotten onto the radio and just told red bull to give the position or he gets a drive though/time penalty or point deduction. I dont want racers to feel like they cant race no more but when they make n error then need to see some retrospective action taken.
I think Max is a breath of fresh air, fantastic driver, so refreshing to have someone who doesnt just toe the company line. Quite the opposite of Lewis who has become an uber PC weirdo.
Both are in a league of their own on the track, I hope Lewis comes back to win the title this year as much as he become annoying as a person he is still one of my heroes on track. Max is the bees knees, I have spoken with Max a few times as I have raced with him and Lando quite a few times (online sim racing that is!)
People need to stop being little bi*ches and just enjoy the fact we have a challenge on for the title as in recent times they have been so rare.
Its gotten to the stage that people are shocked when drivers trip over each other at the front....that used to happen a lot more in the past, when drivers could actually race each other
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Trouble is the biggest little baitches have been Red Bull led by Horner and Marko. They have been a disgusting example all season. In particular after Silverstone where they should have been officially reprimanded. Their personal attacks on Hamilton were shameful. Now they are insinuating that Mercedes-Benz are cheating due to extra straight line speed, but won't challenge them officially as they have no proof. Absolute crap thing to do.
Not saying Wolf and Mercedes have been great either but they have not yet lowered themselves to Red Bull's level.
Not saying Wolf and Mercedes have been great either but they have not yet lowered themselves to Red Bull's level
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He says with a straight face
every team looks to get one up on opposition through whatever means they can, somtimes legal sometimes not. The way its always been, trust me this is nothing compared to what t used to be like. Back in the day the sport was corrupt as hell. Gimme moaning and complaining over corruptness anyday.
Toto and Christian are pretty good friends away from F1 they get on very well. But its literally their job to complain if they think they can benefit from it
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 49 minutes ago
every team looks to get one up on opposition through whatever means they can, somtimes legal sometimes not. The way its always been, trust me this is nothing compared to what t used to be like. Back in the day the sport was corrupt as hell. Gimme moaning and complaining over corruptness anyday.
Toto and Christian are pretty good friends away from F1 they get on very well. But its literally their job to complain if they think they can benefit from it
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Pretty much this. This battle is tame in that regard compared to the years of Schumacher.
I also do wonder whether Red bull will take an engine change at some point, but the problem for them is that the last few circuits are advantageous to Mercedes so it's difficult to see how they'd limit the damage from doing that.
No penalty for Max, correct decision
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 49 minutes ago
every team looks to get one up on opposition through whatever means they can, somtimes legal sometimes not. The way its always been, trust me this is nothing compared to what t used to be like. Back in the day the sport was corrupt as hell. Gimme moaning and complaining over corruptness anyday.
Toto and Christian are pretty good friends away from F1 they get on very well. But its literally their job to complain if they think they can benefit from it
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Pretty much this. This battle is tame in that regard compared to the years of Schumacher.
I also do wonder whether Red bull will take an engine change at some point, but the problem for them is that the last few circuits are advantageous to Mercedes so it's difficult to see how they'd limit the damage from doing that.
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interview with Horner says that the speed difference for the Honda engine between new and old is only 3mph whilst the Mercedes is up to 13mph so a big difference there so the redbull seem far less restricted by the older engines? surely reliability would come into it though like you said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59348132 A joke.
So next race if Hamilton tries to tbone Verstappen aout the way he should get no penalty if Verstappen doesn’t move out the way.
I hope next race if Hamilton tries to t-bone Verstappen out the way he gets no penalty if Verstappen doesn’t go completely off the track and gets smashed out the way instead as the stewards have basically said you are allowed to take other drivers out as long as the driver on outside avoids it you don’t get a penalty.
So it should be the same if they get smashed out the way as well.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 20 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by 8==Divock #SLM 🐟 (U22339)
posted 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 12 hours, 24 minutes ago
https://youtu.be/j3eLfA9RTko
Wow it looks even worse now.
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gonna be interesting if nothing is sad or done about it , how far will verstappen think he can go. He could very well go down the Schumi/Senna/Prost route and just take hamilton out if/when he tries to pass him on track
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Black flag and point deduction would stop that if it was blatant.
One thing I do wonder if whether Max will take another engine… his last one was in Russia, another was taken out at Silverstone. I’m not sure you can rely on any F1 engine for 8 races
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black flags are so rare cos of its meaning. to instantly disqualify would be such a drastic action then the people deciding need to be 100% sure with 0 chance of being proven wrong, cos if there was even a hint of regulation not being followed or anything that can counter the decision then massive law suits can follow.
In the instance of last week FIA should have gotten onto the radio and just told red bull to give the position or he gets a drive though/time penalty or point deduction. I dont want racers to feel like they cant race no more but when they make n error then need to see some retrospective action taken.
I think Max is a breath of fresh air, fantastic driver, so refreshing to have someone who doesnt just toe the company line. Quite the opposite of Lewis who has become an uber PC weirdo.
Both are in a league of their own on the track, I hope Lewis comes back to win the title this year as much as he become annoying as a person he is still one of my heroes on track. Max is the bees knees, I have spoken with Max a few times as I have raced with him and Lando quite a few times (online sim racing that is!)
People need to stop being little bi*ches and just enjoy the fact we have a challenge on for the title as in recent times they have been so rare.
Its gotten to the stage that people are shocked when drivers trip over each other at the front....that used to happen a lot more in the past, when drivers could actually race each other
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Sure, cars trip over each other in races. Tsunoda hit Stroll trying an optimistic dart up the inside after breaking late. Stroll maintained his line.
Hamilton could not afford to maintain his line and despite having given Verstappen plenty of room, if he had not avoided him it would have been a crash.
This sums up the issue many have with Verstappen. Yes, he is aggressive and it makes for great viewing but actually he takes an approach that you get out of his way or there is contact. He never yields. We saw it at Silverstone, Imola, Monza and Brazil to name a few. This aggressive style has been emboldened by a lead in the championship. Hamilton has everything to lose and Verstappen knows Hamilton will back off to avoid contact. That is a valid strategy but what it boils down to is that he is prepared to have contact when is suits him, and that is not the way to race and if the Championship is decided on an incident like Brazils then it will be a massive anti-climax for fans and will taint what is otherwise an outstanding achievement from RB & Max.
comment by One Love - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 13 minutes ago
No penalty for Max, correct decision
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from the guy who said this in regards to Lewis running Max out at Silverstone.
"Really? Running a rival off the track like a rookie and then trying to shift the blame. He's a massive caaant and a cheat.".
"Hamilton not even saying sorry. Is he not always the one talking about respect? He showed none today."
Thats the non biased kinda view we wanna see !!
Max was the main person at fault for Silverstone crash yet Lewis got the penalty. What Max did was equivalent to switching to right hand lane on the dual carriageway and expecting the other driver to disappear who is going much faster already slightly alongside you.
Honestly hoping Verstappen gets Karma as the only reason he is in the lead of this championship due to insane luck like in Russia.
The question is why did Lewis get a 10 second penalty at Silverstone? It ain’t Lewis fault Max turned in on him. They said he missed the apex but he made the corner while Max completey missed the apex and completey went off the track and if Lewis drove like Max in Silverstone in Brazil instead there would have been a complete smash.
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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 20 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by 8==Divock #SLM 🐟 (U22339)
posted 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 12 hours, 24 minutes ago
https://youtu.be/j3eLfA9RTko
Wow it looks even worse now.
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gonna be interesting if nothing is sad or done about it , how far will verstappen think he can go. He could very well go down the Schumi/Senna/Prost route and just take hamilton out if/when he tries to pass him on track
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Black flag and point deduction would stop that if it was blatant.
One thing I do wonder if whether Max will take another engine… his last one was in Russia, another was taken out at Silverstone. I’m not sure you can rely on any F1 engine for 8 races
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black flags are so rare cos of its meaning. to instantly disqualify would be such a drastic action then the people deciding need to be 100% sure with 0 chance of being proven wrong, cos if there was even a hint of regulation not being followed or anything that can counter the decision then massive law suits can follow.
In the instance of last week FIA should have gotten onto the radio and just told red bull to give the position or he gets a drive though/time penalty or point deduction. I dont want racers to feel like they cant race no more but when they make n error then need to see some retrospective action taken.
I think Max is a breath of fresh air, fantastic driver, so refreshing to have someone who doesnt just toe the company line. Quite the opposite of Lewis who has become an uber PC weirdo.
Both are in a league of their own on the track, I hope Lewis comes back to win the title this year as much as he become annoying as a person he is still one of my heroes on track. Max is the bees knees, I have spoken with Max a few times as I have raced with him and Lando quite a few times (online sim racing that is!)
People need to stop being little bi*ches and just enjoy the fact we have a challenge on for the title as in recent times they have been so rare.
Its gotten to the stage that people are shocked when drivers trip over each other at the front....that used to happen a lot more in the past, when drivers could actually race each other
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Sure, cars trip over each other in races. Tsunoda hit Stroll trying an optimistic dart up the inside after breaking late. Stroll maintained his line.
Hamilton could not afford to maintain his line and despite having given Verstappen plenty of room, if he had not avoided him it would have been a crash.
This sums up the issue many have with Verstappen. Yes, he is aggressive and it makes for great viewing but actually he takes an approach that you get out of his way or there is contact. He never yields. We saw it at Silverstone, Imola, Monza and Brazil to name a few. This aggressive style has been emboldened by a lead in the championship. Hamilton has everything to lose and Verstappen knows Hamilton will back off to avoid contact. That is a valid strategy but what it boils down to is that he is prepared to have contact when is suits him, and that is not the way to race and if the Championship is decided on an incident like Brazils then it will be a massive anti-climax for fans and will taint what is otherwise an outstanding achievement from RB & Max.
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I dont have a problem with Max's attitude at all. I like it... I love a guy that takes no $hit and thinks completely one tracked.
He must get his punishements when due though. There is no way Max would be driving like this if he wasnt in the lead but he has earned that right due to getting that lead... i dont think Hamilton would act too differently if the roles were reversed.
Its all about who has the most to lose, and as I said before this is no different to any title challenge in the past. Most are to young or havent followed the sport long enough to remember it thats all.
F1 has fallen so much in terms of wheel to wheel racing that people forget what its actually like and what tends to happen.
BRING IT ON ... i love it
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 0 seconds ago
The question is why did Lewis get a 10 second penalty at Silverstone? It ain’t Lewis fault Max turned in on him. They said he missed the apex but he made the corner while Max completey missed the apex and completey went off the track and if Lewis drove like Max in Silverstone in Brazil instead there would have been a complete smash.
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its hard to argue against this point
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 2 minutes ago
Max was the main person at fault for Silverstone crash yet Lewis got the penalty. What Max did was equivalent to switching to right hand lane on the dual carriageway and expecting the other driver to disappear who is going much faster already slightly alongside you.
Honestly hoping Verstappen gets Karma as the only reason he is in the lead of this championship due to insane luck like in Russia.
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Max was by no mean the main culprit ... he played his part but was far more the victim in this scenario. Brazil however was 100% all Max fault in fact lewis was the only reason there wasnt a crash at Interlagos
No idea how Lewis got a penalty in Silverstone, he had way more momentum than Max and got squeezed yet stayed on the track but as Max allowed no room he crashed into him. Max should have got the 10 second penalty or a grid drop but Lewis got a 10 second penalty. Also why did Tsunoda get a 10 seconds penalty for hugging the Apex in Brazil and crashing when Max was in a much worse position to defend Lewis and completely drove off the track lol.
I am hoping Lewis t-bones Max out the way next race if he is on the outside. Karma.
Look at Leclerc in same race gave Lewis room instead of completely squeezing him. It seems only Max wants to not respect his opponent.
Basically F1 rules are now basically similar to if you throw a punch at someone and miss in football you don’t get a card but if your hand is waving outside and someone head runs into your hand you get a red card.
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 22 seconds ago
No idea how Lewis got a penalty in Silverstone, he had way more momentum than Max and got squeezed yet stayed on the track but as Max allowed no room he crashed into him. Max should have got the 10 second penalty or a grid drop but Lewis got a 10 second penalty. Also why did Tsunoda get a 10 seconds penalty for hugging the Apex in Brazil and crashing when Max was in a much worse position to defend Lewis and completely drove off the track lol.
I am hoping Lewis t-bones Max out the way next race if he is on the outside. Karma.
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sorry but your wrong here, Lewis had the inside line and failed to meet the apex, same as max last weekend. There was more room on the outside for Max but he had left plenty of room on the inside. Also at Silverstone at no point wa Hamilton ever ahead. Hamilton 100% understeered across the track to hit Max. Lewis was the main reason the crash happened at Silverstone , Max could have given him more room but is certainly not obliged too, he could have done what Hamilton did however and ran wide to avoid (even though he shouldnt have to)
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 2 minutes ago
Look at Leclerc in same race gave Lewis room instead of completely squeezing him. It seems only Max wants to not respect his opponent.
Basically F1 rules are now basically similar to if you throw a punch at someone and miss in football you don’t get a card but if your hand is waving outside and someone head runs into your hand you get a red card.
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Not comparable Le Clerk $hit himself and also isnt fighting for a championship so didnt fight it at all ... he was also in a slower car than Max
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 6 minutes ago
No idea how Lewis got a penalty in Silverstone, he had way more momentum than Max and got squeezed yet stayed on the track but as Max allowed no room he crashed into him. Max should have got the 10 second penalty or a grid drop but Lewis got a 10 second penalty. Also why did Tsunoda get a 10 seconds penalty for hugging the Apex in Brazil and crashing when Max was in a much worse position to defend Lewis and completely drove off the track lol.
I am hoping Lewis t-bones Max out the way next race if he is on the outside. Karma.
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I dont, I hope that Hamilton beats him fair and square, I want a good race and challenge and even though I would prefer Lewis to take the WDC both IMO are worthy champs this year
Lewis stayed on the track in Silverstone going a lot faster after being squeezed. He still stayed on the track while Max in Brazil was going snails pace into an easy left hander but deliberately opened the steering and released the brakes so Lewis can’t overtake. What Max did in Brazil was 10x worse than what Lewis did in Silverstone. If Max was on outside of Lewis and Lewis did what Max did I can guarantee you there would have been one big smash in Brazil.
The only reason Max is leading the championship is because of his dirty driving. Remember Monza. He basically deliberately crashed into Hamilton due to a bad pit stop.
Hamilton should be leading the championship really but Max getting lucky in Russia and t-boning Hamilton out the way in Monza has kept him ahead.
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posted on 18/11/21
comment by 8==Divock #SLM 🐟 (U22339)
posted 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 12 hours, 24 minutes ago
https://youtu.be/j3eLfA9RTko
Wow it looks even worse now.
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gonna be interesting if nothing is sad or done about it , how far will verstappen think he can go. He could very well go down the Schumi/Senna/Prost route and just take hamilton out if/when he tries to pass him on track
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Black flag and point deduction would stop that if it was blatant.
One thing I do wonder if whether Max will take another engine… his last one was in Russia, another was taken out at Silverstone. I’m not sure you can rely on any F1 engine for 8 races
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black flags are so rare cos of its meaning. to instantly disqualify would be such a drastic action then the people deciding need to be 100% sure with 0 chance of being proven wrong, cos if there was even a hint of regulation not being followed or anything that can counter the decision then massive law suits can follow.
In the instance of last week FIA should have gotten onto the radio and just told red bull to give the position or he gets a drive though/time penalty or point deduction. I dont want racers to feel like they cant race no more but when they make n error then need to see some retrospective action taken.
I think Max is a breath of fresh air, fantastic driver, so refreshing to have someone who doesnt just toe the company line. Quite the opposite of Lewis who has become an uber PC weirdo.
Both are in a league of their own on the track, I hope Lewis comes back to win the title this year as much as he become annoying as a person he is still one of my heroes on track. Max is the bees knees, I have spoken with Max a few times as I have raced with him and Lando quite a few times (online sim racing that is!)
People need to stop being little bi*ches and just enjoy the fact we have a challenge on for the title as in recent times they have been so rare.
Its gotten to the stage that people are shocked when drivers trip over each other at the front....that used to happen a lot more in the past, when drivers could actually race each other
posted on 18/11/21
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by 8==Divock #SLM 🐟 (U22339)
posted 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 12 hours, 24 minutes ago
https://youtu.be/j3eLfA9RTko
Wow it looks even worse now.
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gonna be interesting if nothing is sad or done about it , how far will verstappen think he can go. He could very well go down the Schumi/Senna/Prost route and just take hamilton out if/when he tries to pass him on track
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Black flag and point deduction would stop that if it was blatant.
One thing I do wonder if whether Max will take another engine… his last one was in Russia, another was taken out at Silverstone. I’m not sure you can rely on any F1 engine for 8 races
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black flags are so rare cos of its meaning. to instantly disqualify would be such a drastic action then the people deciding need to be 100% sure with 0 chance of being proven wrong, cos if there was even a hint of regulation not being followed or anything that can counter the decision then massive law suits can follow.
In the instance of last week FIA should have gotten onto the radio and just told red bull to give the position or he gets a drive though/time penalty or point deduction. I dont want racers to feel like they cant race no more but when they make n error then need to see some retrospective action taken.
I think Max is a breath of fresh air, fantastic driver, so refreshing to have someone who doesnt just toe the company line. Quite the opposite of Lewis who has become an uber PC weirdo.
Both are in a league of their own on the track, I hope Lewis comes back to win the title this year as much as he become annoying as a person he is still one of my heroes on track. Max is the bees knees, I have spoken with Max a few times as I have raced with him and Lando quite a few times (online sim racing that is!)
People need to stop being little bi*ches and just enjoy the fact we have a challenge on for the title as in recent times they have been so rare.
Its gotten to the stage that people are shocked when drivers trip over each other at the front....that used to happen a lot more in the past, when drivers could actually race each other
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Trouble is the biggest little baitches have been Red Bull led by Horner and Marko. They have been a disgusting example all season. In particular after Silverstone where they should have been officially reprimanded. Their personal attacks on Hamilton were shameful. Now they are insinuating that Mercedes-Benz are cheating due to extra straight line speed, but won't challenge them officially as they have no proof. Absolute crap thing to do.
Not saying Wolf and Mercedes have been great either but they have not yet lowered themselves to Red Bull's level.
posted on 19/11/21
Not saying Wolf and Mercedes have been great either but they have not yet lowered themselves to Red Bull's level
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He says with a straight face
posted on 19/11/21
every team looks to get one up on opposition through whatever means they can, somtimes legal sometimes not. The way its always been, trust me this is nothing compared to what t used to be like. Back in the day the sport was corrupt as hell. Gimme moaning and complaining over corruptness anyday.
Toto and Christian are pretty good friends away from F1 they get on very well. But its literally their job to complain if they think they can benefit from it
posted on 19/11/21
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 49 minutes ago
every team looks to get one up on opposition through whatever means they can, somtimes legal sometimes not. The way its always been, trust me this is nothing compared to what t used to be like. Back in the day the sport was corrupt as hell. Gimme moaning and complaining over corruptness anyday.
Toto and Christian are pretty good friends away from F1 they get on very well. But its literally their job to complain if they think they can benefit from it
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Pretty much this. This battle is tame in that regard compared to the years of Schumacher.
I also do wonder whether Red bull will take an engine change at some point, but the problem for them is that the last few circuits are advantageous to Mercedes so it's difficult to see how they'd limit the damage from doing that.
posted on 19/11/21
No penalty for Max, correct decision
posted on 19/11/21
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 49 minutes ago
every team looks to get one up on opposition through whatever means they can, somtimes legal sometimes not. The way its always been, trust me this is nothing compared to what t used to be like. Back in the day the sport was corrupt as hell. Gimme moaning and complaining over corruptness anyday.
Toto and Christian are pretty good friends away from F1 they get on very well. But its literally their job to complain if they think they can benefit from it
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Pretty much this. This battle is tame in that regard compared to the years of Schumacher.
I also do wonder whether Red bull will take an engine change at some point, but the problem for them is that the last few circuits are advantageous to Mercedes so it's difficult to see how they'd limit the damage from doing that.
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interview with Horner says that the speed difference for the Honda engine between new and old is only 3mph whilst the Mercedes is up to 13mph so a big difference there so the redbull seem far less restricted by the older engines? surely reliability would come into it though like you said.
posted on 19/11/21
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59348132 A joke.
So next race if Hamilton tries to tbone Verstappen aout the way he should get no penalty if Verstappen doesn’t move out the way.
posted on 19/11/21
I hope next race if Hamilton tries to t-bone Verstappen out the way he gets no penalty if Verstappen doesn’t go completely off the track and gets smashed out the way instead as the stewards have basically said you are allowed to take other drivers out as long as the driver on outside avoids it you don’t get a penalty.
posted on 19/11/21
So it should be the same if they get smashed out the way as well.
posted on 19/11/21
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 20 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by 8==Divock #SLM 🐟 (U22339)
posted 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 12 hours, 24 minutes ago
https://youtu.be/j3eLfA9RTko
Wow it looks even worse now.
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gonna be interesting if nothing is sad or done about it , how far will verstappen think he can go. He could very well go down the Schumi/Senna/Prost route and just take hamilton out if/when he tries to pass him on track
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Black flag and point deduction would stop that if it was blatant.
One thing I do wonder if whether Max will take another engine… his last one was in Russia, another was taken out at Silverstone. I’m not sure you can rely on any F1 engine for 8 races
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black flags are so rare cos of its meaning. to instantly disqualify would be such a drastic action then the people deciding need to be 100% sure with 0 chance of being proven wrong, cos if there was even a hint of regulation not being followed or anything that can counter the decision then massive law suits can follow.
In the instance of last week FIA should have gotten onto the radio and just told red bull to give the position or he gets a drive though/time penalty or point deduction. I dont want racers to feel like they cant race no more but when they make n error then need to see some retrospective action taken.
I think Max is a breath of fresh air, fantastic driver, so refreshing to have someone who doesnt just toe the company line. Quite the opposite of Lewis who has become an uber PC weirdo.
Both are in a league of their own on the track, I hope Lewis comes back to win the title this year as much as he become annoying as a person he is still one of my heroes on track. Max is the bees knees, I have spoken with Max a few times as I have raced with him and Lando quite a few times (online sim racing that is!)
People need to stop being little bi*ches and just enjoy the fact we have a challenge on for the title as in recent times they have been so rare.
Its gotten to the stage that people are shocked when drivers trip over each other at the front....that used to happen a lot more in the past, when drivers could actually race each other
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Sure, cars trip over each other in races. Tsunoda hit Stroll trying an optimistic dart up the inside after breaking late. Stroll maintained his line.
Hamilton could not afford to maintain his line and despite having given Verstappen plenty of room, if he had not avoided him it would have been a crash.
This sums up the issue many have with Verstappen. Yes, he is aggressive and it makes for great viewing but actually he takes an approach that you get out of his way or there is contact. He never yields. We saw it at Silverstone, Imola, Monza and Brazil to name a few. This aggressive style has been emboldened by a lead in the championship. Hamilton has everything to lose and Verstappen knows Hamilton will back off to avoid contact. That is a valid strategy but what it boils down to is that he is prepared to have contact when is suits him, and that is not the way to race and if the Championship is decided on an incident like Brazils then it will be a massive anti-climax for fans and will taint what is otherwise an outstanding achievement from RB & Max.
posted on 19/11/21
comment by One Love - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 13 minutes ago
No penalty for Max, correct decision
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from the guy who said this in regards to Lewis running Max out at Silverstone.
"Really? Running a rival off the track like a rookie and then trying to shift the blame. He's a massive caaant and a cheat.".
"Hamilton not even saying sorry. Is he not always the one talking about respect? He showed none today."
Thats the non biased kinda view we wanna see !!
posted on 19/11/21
Max was the main person at fault for Silverstone crash yet Lewis got the penalty. What Max did was equivalent to switching to right hand lane on the dual carriageway and expecting the other driver to disappear who is going much faster already slightly alongside you.
Honestly hoping Verstappen gets Karma as the only reason he is in the lead of this championship due to insane luck like in Russia.
posted on 19/11/21
The question is why did Lewis get a 10 second penalty at Silverstone? It ain’t Lewis fault Max turned in on him. They said he missed the apex but he made the corner while Max completey missed the apex and completey went off the track and if Lewis drove like Max in Silverstone in Brazil instead there would have been a complete smash.
posted on 19/11/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 20 hours, 32 minutes ago
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posted 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
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posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 12 hours, 24 minutes ago
https://youtu.be/j3eLfA9RTko
Wow it looks even worse now.
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gonna be interesting if nothing is sad or done about it , how far will verstappen think he can go. He could very well go down the Schumi/Senna/Prost route and just take hamilton out if/when he tries to pass him on track
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Black flag and point deduction would stop that if it was blatant.
One thing I do wonder if whether Max will take another engine… his last one was in Russia, another was taken out at Silverstone. I’m not sure you can rely on any F1 engine for 8 races
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black flags are so rare cos of its meaning. to instantly disqualify would be such a drastic action then the people deciding need to be 100% sure with 0 chance of being proven wrong, cos if there was even a hint of regulation not being followed or anything that can counter the decision then massive law suits can follow.
In the instance of last week FIA should have gotten onto the radio and just told red bull to give the position or he gets a drive though/time penalty or point deduction. I dont want racers to feel like they cant race no more but when they make n error then need to see some retrospective action taken.
I think Max is a breath of fresh air, fantastic driver, so refreshing to have someone who doesnt just toe the company line. Quite the opposite of Lewis who has become an uber PC weirdo.
Both are in a league of their own on the track, I hope Lewis comes back to win the title this year as much as he become annoying as a person he is still one of my heroes on track. Max is the bees knees, I have spoken with Max a few times as I have raced with him and Lando quite a few times (online sim racing that is!)
People need to stop being little bi*ches and just enjoy the fact we have a challenge on for the title as in recent times they have been so rare.
Its gotten to the stage that people are shocked when drivers trip over each other at the front....that used to happen a lot more in the past, when drivers could actually race each other
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Sure, cars trip over each other in races. Tsunoda hit Stroll trying an optimistic dart up the inside after breaking late. Stroll maintained his line.
Hamilton could not afford to maintain his line and despite having given Verstappen plenty of room, if he had not avoided him it would have been a crash.
This sums up the issue many have with Verstappen. Yes, he is aggressive and it makes for great viewing but actually he takes an approach that you get out of his way or there is contact. He never yields. We saw it at Silverstone, Imola, Monza and Brazil to name a few. This aggressive style has been emboldened by a lead in the championship. Hamilton has everything to lose and Verstappen knows Hamilton will back off to avoid contact. That is a valid strategy but what it boils down to is that he is prepared to have contact when is suits him, and that is not the way to race and if the Championship is decided on an incident like Brazils then it will be a massive anti-climax for fans and will taint what is otherwise an outstanding achievement from RB & Max.
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I dont have a problem with Max's attitude at all. I like it... I love a guy that takes no $hit and thinks completely one tracked.
He must get his punishements when due though. There is no way Max would be driving like this if he wasnt in the lead but he has earned that right due to getting that lead... i dont think Hamilton would act too differently if the roles were reversed.
Its all about who has the most to lose, and as I said before this is no different to any title challenge in the past. Most are to young or havent followed the sport long enough to remember it thats all.
F1 has fallen so much in terms of wheel to wheel racing that people forget what its actually like and what tends to happen.
BRING IT ON ... i love it
posted on 19/11/21
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 0 seconds ago
The question is why did Lewis get a 10 second penalty at Silverstone? It ain’t Lewis fault Max turned in on him. They said he missed the apex but he made the corner while Max completey missed the apex and completey went off the track and if Lewis drove like Max in Silverstone in Brazil instead there would have been a complete smash.
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its hard to argue against this point
posted on 19/11/21
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 2 minutes ago
Max was the main person at fault for Silverstone crash yet Lewis got the penalty. What Max did was equivalent to switching to right hand lane on the dual carriageway and expecting the other driver to disappear who is going much faster already slightly alongside you.
Honestly hoping Verstappen gets Karma as the only reason he is in the lead of this championship due to insane luck like in Russia.
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Max was by no mean the main culprit ... he played his part but was far more the victim in this scenario. Brazil however was 100% all Max fault in fact lewis was the only reason there wasnt a crash at Interlagos
posted on 19/11/21
No idea how Lewis got a penalty in Silverstone, he had way more momentum than Max and got squeezed yet stayed on the track but as Max allowed no room he crashed into him. Max should have got the 10 second penalty or a grid drop but Lewis got a 10 second penalty. Also why did Tsunoda get a 10 seconds penalty for hugging the Apex in Brazil and crashing when Max was in a much worse position to defend Lewis and completely drove off the track lol.
I am hoping Lewis t-bones Max out the way next race if he is on the outside. Karma.
posted on 19/11/21
Look at Leclerc in same race gave Lewis room instead of completely squeezing him. It seems only Max wants to not respect his opponent.
Basically F1 rules are now basically similar to if you throw a punch at someone and miss in football you don’t get a card but if your hand is waving outside and someone head runs into your hand you get a red card.
posted on 19/11/21
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 22 seconds ago
No idea how Lewis got a penalty in Silverstone, he had way more momentum than Max and got squeezed yet stayed on the track but as Max allowed no room he crashed into him. Max should have got the 10 second penalty or a grid drop but Lewis got a 10 second penalty. Also why did Tsunoda get a 10 seconds penalty for hugging the Apex in Brazil and crashing when Max was in a much worse position to defend Lewis and completely drove off the track lol.
I am hoping Lewis t-bones Max out the way next race if he is on the outside. Karma.
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sorry but your wrong here, Lewis had the inside line and failed to meet the apex, same as max last weekend. There was more room on the outside for Max but he had left plenty of room on the inside. Also at Silverstone at no point wa Hamilton ever ahead. Hamilton 100% understeered across the track to hit Max. Lewis was the main reason the crash happened at Silverstone , Max could have given him more room but is certainly not obliged too, he could have done what Hamilton did however and ran wide to avoid (even though he shouldnt have to)
posted on 19/11/21
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 2 minutes ago
Look at Leclerc in same race gave Lewis room instead of completely squeezing him. It seems only Max wants to not respect his opponent.
Basically F1 rules are now basically similar to if you throw a punch at someone and miss in football you don’t get a card but if your hand is waving outside and someone head runs into your hand you get a red card.
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Not comparable Le Clerk $hit himself and also isnt fighting for a championship so didnt fight it at all ... he was also in a slower car than Max
posted on 19/11/21
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 6 minutes ago
No idea how Lewis got a penalty in Silverstone, he had way more momentum than Max and got squeezed yet stayed on the track but as Max allowed no room he crashed into him. Max should have got the 10 second penalty or a grid drop but Lewis got a 10 second penalty. Also why did Tsunoda get a 10 seconds penalty for hugging the Apex in Brazil and crashing when Max was in a much worse position to defend Lewis and completely drove off the track lol.
I am hoping Lewis t-bones Max out the way next race if he is on the outside. Karma.
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I dont, I hope that Hamilton beats him fair and square, I want a good race and challenge and even though I would prefer Lewis to take the WDC both IMO are worthy champs this year
posted on 19/11/21
Lewis stayed on the track in Silverstone going a lot faster after being squeezed. He still stayed on the track while Max in Brazil was going snails pace into an easy left hander but deliberately opened the steering and released the brakes so Lewis can’t overtake. What Max did in Brazil was 10x worse than what Lewis did in Silverstone. If Max was on outside of Lewis and Lewis did what Max did I can guarantee you there would have been one big smash in Brazil.
posted on 19/11/21
The only reason Max is leading the championship is because of his dirty driving. Remember Monza. He basically deliberately crashed into Hamilton due to a bad pit stop.
posted on 19/11/21
Hamilton should be leading the championship really but Max getting lucky in Russia and t-boning Hamilton out the way in Monza has kept him ahead.
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