Let's be honest, she is probably dead, in which case the family would probably prefer the public know her issues, rather than accuse the husband of no good.
Not sure what's so shocking about that.. does it harm their investigation?
can someone please explain why this story picked up mor traction than any other missing persons case up and down the UK?
from the word go it has been reported and since then the case seems to have gotten murkier but from the the offset this has been reported, why this over the umpteen other cases?
I don't think anybody can disagree that it's been poorly handled. Even if foul play was involved (I've used Occam's Razor and think she probably did fall in the river and was swept away) the fact they let potential suspects, like her partner, go to the scene would make it far more difficult.
I could be wrong however and they're using an ingenious way to flush out their main suspect (probably her partner) by letting him hang himself on his own rope.
It's all very strange though. People have commented why all the focus on this case when people go missing everyday but my thinking is that this is a middle class, attractive, white lady that's gone missing so that makes it more 'attractive' for coverage.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 48 seconds ago
I don't think anybody can disagree that it's been poorly handled. Even if foul play was involved (I've used Occam's Razor and think she probably did fall in the river and was swept away) the fact they let potential suspects, like her partner, go to the scene would make it far more difficult.
I could be wrong however and they're using an ingenious way to flush out their main suspect (probably her partner) by letting him hang himself on his own rope.
It's all very strange though. People have commented why all the focus on this case when people go missing everyday but my thinking is that this is a middle class, attractive, white lady that's gone missing so that makes it more 'attractive' for coverage.
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Nothing to do with race.
It's the fact they have no clue where she has gone.
there is a class thing in this country, no doubt..i find it sickening tbh
the biggest form of discrimination in British society by far is perceived social class, and not race/gender/sexuality as the media would have you believe
don't think she's particularly attractive though tbh
comment by Rdd II (U22942)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 48 seconds ago
I don't think anybody can disagree that it's been poorly handled. Even if foul play was involved (I've used Occam's Razor and think she probably did fall in the river and was swept away) the fact they let potential suspects, like her partner, go to the scene would make it far more difficult.
I could be wrong however and they're using an ingenious way to flush out their main suspect (probably her partner) by letting him hang himself on his own rope.
It's all very strange though. People have commented why all the focus on this case when people go missing everyday but my thinking is that this is a middle class, attractive, white lady that's gone missing so that makes it more 'attractive' for coverage.
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Nothing to do with race.
It's the fact they have no clue where she has gone.
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Surely 'no clue where (s)he has gone' applies to every missing person though?
It's the mysterious nature of the case that has caught the attention of the public rather than anything else really.
https://twitter.com/lostbutterfly28/status/1625657137673211904?s=20
This one of the crazier theories.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure what's so shocking about that.. does it harm their investigation?
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I mean, what's the relevance of dragging her personal, private struggles through public mud? How does that help find her? I'm fairly certain that if this was my partner, this is not the kind of information I would want the police revealing unless there was a clear rationale behind releasing the information.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
can someone please explain why this story picked up mor traction than any other missing persons case up and down the UK?
from the word go it has been reported and since then the case seems to have gotten murkier but from the the offset this has been reported, why this over the umpteen other cases?
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Because of its complexity. A normal day. Drops the kids off. Walks the dog. Uses her phone for a meeting. Disappears without trace.
The media love things like this. It sells papers and attracts news viewers.
She’s not special to anyone but her family but the interest level is immense.
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure what's so shocking about that.. does it harm their investigation?
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I mean, what's the relevance of dragging her personal, private struggles through public mud? How does that help find her? I'm fairly certain that if this was my partner, this is not the kind of information I would want the police revealing unless there was a clear rationale behind releasing the information.
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I think stating she had mental health issues would have been enough IMO. As it would kind of explain why she may have just taken off herself (if that proves to be the case).
It could also be that some stories were going to come out about her partner knocking her about or something so this is there to cover that angle.
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
can someone please explain why this story picked up mor traction than any other missing persons case up and down the UK?
from the word go it has been reported and since then the case seems to have gotten murkier but from the the offset this has been reported, why this over the umpteen other cases?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because of its complexity. A normal day. Drops the kids off. Walks the dog. Uses her phone for a meeting. Disappears without trace.
The media love things like this. It sells papers and attracts news viewers.
She’s not special to anyone but her family but the interest level is immense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect, in the end, the truth will be far less complex. She fell in the river because her dog was mucking about next to it.
comment by Rdd II (U22942)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 48 seconds ago
I don't think anybody can disagree that it's been poorly handled. Even if foul play was involved (I've used Occam's Razor and think she probably did fall in the river and was swept away) the fact they let potential suspects, like her partner, go to the scene would make it far more difficult.
I could be wrong however and they're using an ingenious way to flush out their main suspect (probably her partner) by letting him hang himself on his own rope.
It's all very strange though. People have commented why all the focus on this case when people go missing everyday but my thinking is that this is a middle class, attractive, white lady that's gone missing so that makes it more 'attractive' for coverage.
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Nothing to do with race.
It's the fact they have no clue where she has gone.
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They rarely do, hence the "missing person" part of the enquiry?
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
can someone please explain why this story picked up mor traction than any other missing persons case up and down the UK?
from the word go it has been reported and since then the case seems to have gotten murkier but from the the offset this has been reported, why this over the umpteen other cases?
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Some of the reasons this case has prominence will unfortunately be resultant from her profile/social status.
But there's also an element of intrigue with the phone & dog lead being left on the bench, the dog left in the field, the mundanity of her morning routine and the general nature of her disappearance.
It is very unfortunate that not all missing persons cases are treated equally.
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
can someone please explain why this story picked up mor traction than any other missing persons case up and down the UK?
from the word go it has been reported and since then the case seems to have gotten murkier but from the the offset this has been reported, why this over the umpteen other cases?
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Some of the reasons this case has prominence will unfortunately be resultant from her profile/social status.
But there's also an element of intrigue with the phone & dog lead being left on the bench, the dog left in the field, the mundanity of her morning routine and the general nature of her disappearance.
It is very unfortunate that not all missing persons cases are treated equally.
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I may be oversimplifying things but I reckon she was playing with the dog and fell in the river. Perhaps when the dog got too close to the fast flow. When I'm out with the dog I'll often leave phone, lead, wallet to the side in case I drop them. I believe this is what the final outcome will be. She fell in and the only mystery is because the body is yet to be found.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
can someone please explain why this story picked up mor traction than any other missing persons case up and down the UK?
from the word go it has been reported and since then the case seems to have gotten murkier but from the the offset this has been reported, why this over the umpteen other cases?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because of its complexity. A normal day. Drops the kids off. Walks the dog. Uses her phone for a meeting. Disappears without trace.
The media love things like this. It sells papers and attracts news viewers.
She’s not special to anyone but her family but the interest level is immense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect, in the end, the truth will be far less complex. She fell in the river because her dog was mucking about next to it.
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The intention of this thread wasn't to speculate on what happened, though I figured as I typed that it would inevitably go that way. For what it's worth, now we know she had some personal challenges, it strikes me that most likely she probably popped her phone down, let the dog off the leash and walked off in a state. Based on the dive searches in the river by the bench yielding nothing, and the fact the water was very shallow, then it seems that if she did end up in water it wasn't near the bench and it probably wasn't a fall (she'd have landed in water only 1-2ft deep on the day). Peter Faulding has stated multiple times that she couldn't have entered the water near the bench (she'd have been found), and the nature of the current and the bends means she'd almost certainly be very close to that area/not really have left it if she had entered there.
I'm also confused why neither the police nor Paul Ansell would have told Peter Faulding about her personal issues prior to his river search, as he's stated it would have altered the nature of his work - and he did ask Paul about this sort of thing.
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure what's so shocking about that.. does it harm their investigation?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean, what's the relevance of dragging her personal, private struggles through public mud? How does that help find her? I'm fairly certain that if this was my partner, this is not the kind of information I would want the police revealing unless there was a clear rationale behind releasing the information.
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Apparently someone who knows her very well had sold a story to the newspapers about her - presumably what the police have revealed. So her background was coming out anyway.
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
can someone please explain why this story picked up mor traction than any other missing persons case up and down the UK?
from the word go it has been reported and since then the case seems to have gotten murkier but from the the offset this has been reported, why this over the umpteen other cases?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because of its complexity. A normal day. Drops the kids off. Walks the dog. Uses her phone for a meeting. Disappears without trace.
The media love things like this. It sells papers and attracts news viewers.
She’s not special to anyone but her family but the interest level is immense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect, in the end, the truth will be far less complex. She fell in the river because her dog was mucking about next to it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The intention of this thread wasn't to speculate on what happened, though I figured as I typed that it would inevitably go that way. For what it's worth, now we know she had some personal challenges, it strikes me that most likely she probably popped her phone down, let the dog off the leash and walked off in a state. Based on the dive searches in the river by the bench yielding nothing, and the fact the water was very shallow, then it seems that if she did end up in water it wasn't near the bench and it probably wasn't a fall (she'd have landed in water only 1-2ft deep on the day). Peter Faulding has stated multiple times that she couldn't have entered the water near the bench (she'd have been found), and the nature of the current and the bends means she'd almost certainly be very close to that area/not really have left it if she had entered there.
I'm also confused why neither the police nor Paul Ansell would have told Peter Faulding about her personal issues prior to his river search, as he's stated it would have altered the nature of his work - and he did ask Paul about this sort of thing.
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Yes, apologies for going down the theories front.
At face value it doesn't seem to have been handled at all well. Perhaps that says a bit about us the public too?
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Rdd II (U22942)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 48 seconds ago
I don't think anybody can disagree that it's been poorly handled. Even if foul play was involved (I've used Occam's Razor and think she probably did fall in the river and was swept away) the fact they let potential suspects, like her partner, go to the scene would make it far more difficult.
I could be wrong however and they're using an ingenious way to flush out their main suspect (probably her partner) by letting him hang himself on his own rope.
It's all very strange though. People have commented why all the focus on this case when people go missing everyday but my thinking is that this is a middle class, attractive, white lady that's gone missing so that makes it more 'attractive' for coverage.
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Nothing to do with race.
It's the fact they have no clue where she has gone.
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Surely 'no clue where (s)he has gone' applies to every missing person though?
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comment by Gilbert Napthine (U15867)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure what's so shocking about that.. does it harm their investigation?
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I mean, what's the relevance of dragging her personal, private struggles through public mud? How does that help find her? I'm fairly certain that if this was my partner, this is not the kind of information I would want the police revealing unless there was a clear rationale behind releasing the information.
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Apparently someone who knows her very well had sold a story to the newspapers about her - presumably what the police have revealed. So her background was coming out anyway.
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Which would make some sense, but then surely you'd come out and say exactly that? I had actually seen rumours a week ago about alcohol abuse, but dismissed them obviously.
How does someone just fall into a river?
I could maybe imagine that if you were hammered or high as a kite but not otherwise
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 6 minutes ago
Because of its complexity. A normal day.
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Her partner is on record as saying it was not normal, that it was not the normal mayhem in the house getting ready for the day that day. That it was a week after a police visit also suggests some abnormality and possibly the police were aware of tittle tattle about that highly visible visit about to escape into the social media cesspit that led them to reveal more than they might normally?
Rather than speculate what happened is it better to speculate why the police did something?
FWIW, for such a mega high profile case there's a heck of a lot of weird stuff - drivers, fishermen, red van owners not coming forth to clear themselves.
Releasing info regarding her issues with alcohol may seem disrespectful and out of order, but imo there is some method behind doing so.
She may have / probably visited a convenience store or supermarket within the week of disappearing, had she purchased a particular alcohol that she or her partner does or not drink, may offer clues as to what happened thus the checkout operator may have noticed / heard something that hasn't been flagged yet. Was someone else with her in the shop, was someone watching her there? This info may open up new lines of enquiry.
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
How does someone just fall into a river?
I could maybe imagine that if you were hammered or high as a kite but not otherwise
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The part of the river directly below the bank in the area that she was last known to have been (near the bench) is very shallow. If you fell in at that point you'd get wet but the water would be somewhere between shin & thigh high depending on the day. So even if you were hammered and did fall in, you'd just be there on the rocks for everyone to see.
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Off Topic: The Nicola Bulley investigation
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posted on 16/2/23
Let's be honest, she is probably dead, in which case the family would probably prefer the public know her issues, rather than accuse the husband of no good.
posted on 16/2/23
Not sure what's so shocking about that.. does it harm their investigation?
posted on 16/2/23
can someone please explain why this story picked up mor traction than any other missing persons case up and down the UK?
from the word go it has been reported and since then the case seems to have gotten murkier but from the the offset this has been reported, why this over the umpteen other cases?
posted on 16/2/23
I don't think anybody can disagree that it's been poorly handled. Even if foul play was involved (I've used Occam's Razor and think she probably did fall in the river and was swept away) the fact they let potential suspects, like her partner, go to the scene would make it far more difficult.
I could be wrong however and they're using an ingenious way to flush out their main suspect (probably her partner) by letting him hang himself on his own rope.
It's all very strange though. People have commented why all the focus on this case when people go missing everyday but my thinking is that this is a middle class, attractive, white lady that's gone missing so that makes it more 'attractive' for coverage.
posted on 16/2/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 48 seconds ago
I don't think anybody can disagree that it's been poorly handled. Even if foul play was involved (I've used Occam's Razor and think she probably did fall in the river and was swept away) the fact they let potential suspects, like her partner, go to the scene would make it far more difficult.
I could be wrong however and they're using an ingenious way to flush out their main suspect (probably her partner) by letting him hang himself on his own rope.
It's all very strange though. People have commented why all the focus on this case when people go missing everyday but my thinking is that this is a middle class, attractive, white lady that's gone missing so that makes it more 'attractive' for coverage.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nothing to do with race.
It's the fact they have no clue where she has gone.
posted on 16/2/23
there is a class thing in this country, no doubt..i find it sickening tbh
the biggest form of discrimination in British society by far is perceived social class, and not race/gender/sexuality as the media would have you believe
don't think she's particularly attractive though tbh
posted on 16/2/23
comment by Rdd II (U22942)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 48 seconds ago
I don't think anybody can disagree that it's been poorly handled. Even if foul play was involved (I've used Occam's Razor and think she probably did fall in the river and was swept away) the fact they let potential suspects, like her partner, go to the scene would make it far more difficult.
I could be wrong however and they're using an ingenious way to flush out their main suspect (probably her partner) by letting him hang himself on his own rope.
It's all very strange though. People have commented why all the focus on this case when people go missing everyday but my thinking is that this is a middle class, attractive, white lady that's gone missing so that makes it more 'attractive' for coverage.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nothing to do with race.
It's the fact they have no clue where she has gone.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Surely 'no clue where (s)he has gone' applies to every missing person though?
posted on 16/2/23
It's the mysterious nature of the case that has caught the attention of the public rather than anything else really.
posted on 16/2/23
https://twitter.com/lostbutterfly28/status/1625657137673211904?s=20
This one of the crazier theories.
posted on 16/2/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure what's so shocking about that.. does it harm their investigation?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean, what's the relevance of dragging her personal, private struggles through public mud? How does that help find her? I'm fairly certain that if this was my partner, this is not the kind of information I would want the police revealing unless there was a clear rationale behind releasing the information.
posted on 16/2/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
can someone please explain why this story picked up mor traction than any other missing persons case up and down the UK?
from the word go it has been reported and since then the case seems to have gotten murkier but from the the offset this has been reported, why this over the umpteen other cases?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because of its complexity. A normal day. Drops the kids off. Walks the dog. Uses her phone for a meeting. Disappears without trace.
The media love things like this. It sells papers and attracts news viewers.
She’s not special to anyone but her family but the interest level is immense.
posted on 16/2/23
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure what's so shocking about that.. does it harm their investigation?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean, what's the relevance of dragging her personal, private struggles through public mud? How does that help find her? I'm fairly certain that if this was my partner, this is not the kind of information I would want the police revealing unless there was a clear rationale behind releasing the information.
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I think stating she had mental health issues would have been enough IMO. As it would kind of explain why she may have just taken off herself (if that proves to be the case).
It could also be that some stories were going to come out about her partner knocking her about or something so this is there to cover that angle.
posted on 16/2/23
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
can someone please explain why this story picked up mor traction than any other missing persons case up and down the UK?
from the word go it has been reported and since then the case seems to have gotten murkier but from the the offset this has been reported, why this over the umpteen other cases?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because of its complexity. A normal day. Drops the kids off. Walks the dog. Uses her phone for a meeting. Disappears without trace.
The media love things like this. It sells papers and attracts news viewers.
She’s not special to anyone but her family but the interest level is immense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect, in the end, the truth will be far less complex. She fell in the river because her dog was mucking about next to it.
posted on 16/2/23
comment by Rdd II (U22942)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 48 seconds ago
I don't think anybody can disagree that it's been poorly handled. Even if foul play was involved (I've used Occam's Razor and think she probably did fall in the river and was swept away) the fact they let potential suspects, like her partner, go to the scene would make it far more difficult.
I could be wrong however and they're using an ingenious way to flush out their main suspect (probably her partner) by letting him hang himself on his own rope.
It's all very strange though. People have commented why all the focus on this case when people go missing everyday but my thinking is that this is a middle class, attractive, white lady that's gone missing so that makes it more 'attractive' for coverage.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nothing to do with race.
It's the fact they have no clue where she has gone.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They rarely do, hence the "missing person" part of the enquiry?
posted on 16/2/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
can someone please explain why this story picked up mor traction than any other missing persons case up and down the UK?
from the word go it has been reported and since then the case seems to have gotten murkier but from the the offset this has been reported, why this over the umpteen other cases?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Some of the reasons this case has prominence will unfortunately be resultant from her profile/social status.
But there's also an element of intrigue with the phone & dog lead being left on the bench, the dog left in the field, the mundanity of her morning routine and the general nature of her disappearance.
It is very unfortunate that not all missing persons cases are treated equally.
posted on 16/2/23
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
can someone please explain why this story picked up mor traction than any other missing persons case up and down the UK?
from the word go it has been reported and since then the case seems to have gotten murkier but from the the offset this has been reported, why this over the umpteen other cases?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Some of the reasons this case has prominence will unfortunately be resultant from her profile/social status.
But there's also an element of intrigue with the phone & dog lead being left on the bench, the dog left in the field, the mundanity of her morning routine and the general nature of her disappearance.
It is very unfortunate that not all missing persons cases are treated equally.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I may be oversimplifying things but I reckon she was playing with the dog and fell in the river. Perhaps when the dog got too close to the fast flow. When I'm out with the dog I'll often leave phone, lead, wallet to the side in case I drop them. I believe this is what the final outcome will be. She fell in and the only mystery is because the body is yet to be found.
posted on 16/2/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
can someone please explain why this story picked up mor traction than any other missing persons case up and down the UK?
from the word go it has been reported and since then the case seems to have gotten murkier but from the the offset this has been reported, why this over the umpteen other cases?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because of its complexity. A normal day. Drops the kids off. Walks the dog. Uses her phone for a meeting. Disappears without trace.
The media love things like this. It sells papers and attracts news viewers.
She’s not special to anyone but her family but the interest level is immense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect, in the end, the truth will be far less complex. She fell in the river because her dog was mucking about next to it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The intention of this thread wasn't to speculate on what happened, though I figured as I typed that it would inevitably go that way. For what it's worth, now we know she had some personal challenges, it strikes me that most likely she probably popped her phone down, let the dog off the leash and walked off in a state. Based on the dive searches in the river by the bench yielding nothing, and the fact the water was very shallow, then it seems that if she did end up in water it wasn't near the bench and it probably wasn't a fall (she'd have landed in water only 1-2ft deep on the day). Peter Faulding has stated multiple times that she couldn't have entered the water near the bench (she'd have been found), and the nature of the current and the bends means she'd almost certainly be very close to that area/not really have left it if she had entered there.
I'm also confused why neither the police nor Paul Ansell would have told Peter Faulding about her personal issues prior to his river search, as he's stated it would have altered the nature of his work - and he did ask Paul about this sort of thing.
posted on 16/2/23
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure what's so shocking about that.. does it harm their investigation?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean, what's the relevance of dragging her personal, private struggles through public mud? How does that help find her? I'm fairly certain that if this was my partner, this is not the kind of information I would want the police revealing unless there was a clear rationale behind releasing the information.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apparently someone who knows her very well had sold a story to the newspapers about her - presumably what the police have revealed. So her background was coming out anyway.
posted on 16/2/23
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
can someone please explain why this story picked up mor traction than any other missing persons case up and down the UK?
from the word go it has been reported and since then the case seems to have gotten murkier but from the the offset this has been reported, why this over the umpteen other cases?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because of its complexity. A normal day. Drops the kids off. Walks the dog. Uses her phone for a meeting. Disappears without trace.
The media love things like this. It sells papers and attracts news viewers.
She’s not special to anyone but her family but the interest level is immense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect, in the end, the truth will be far less complex. She fell in the river because her dog was mucking about next to it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The intention of this thread wasn't to speculate on what happened, though I figured as I typed that it would inevitably go that way. For what it's worth, now we know she had some personal challenges, it strikes me that most likely she probably popped her phone down, let the dog off the leash and walked off in a state. Based on the dive searches in the river by the bench yielding nothing, and the fact the water was very shallow, then it seems that if she did end up in water it wasn't near the bench and it probably wasn't a fall (she'd have landed in water only 1-2ft deep on the day). Peter Faulding has stated multiple times that she couldn't have entered the water near the bench (she'd have been found), and the nature of the current and the bends means she'd almost certainly be very close to that area/not really have left it if she had entered there.
I'm also confused why neither the police nor Paul Ansell would have told Peter Faulding about her personal issues prior to his river search, as he's stated it would have altered the nature of his work - and he did ask Paul about this sort of thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, apologies for going down the theories front.
At face value it doesn't seem to have been handled at all well. Perhaps that says a bit about us the public too?
posted on 16/2/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Rdd II (U22942)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 48 seconds ago
I don't think anybody can disagree that it's been poorly handled. Even if foul play was involved (I've used Occam's Razor and think she probably did fall in the river and was swept away) the fact they let potential suspects, like her partner, go to the scene would make it far more difficult.
I could be wrong however and they're using an ingenious way to flush out their main suspect (probably her partner) by letting him hang himself on his own rope.
It's all very strange though. People have commented why all the focus on this case when people go missing everyday but my thinking is that this is a middle class, attractive, white lady that's gone missing so that makes it more 'attractive' for coverage.
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Nothing to do with race.
It's the fact they have no clue where she has gone.
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Surely 'no clue where (s)he has gone' applies to every missing person though?
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posted on 16/2/23
comment by Gilbert Napthine (U15867)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure what's so shocking about that.. does it harm their investigation?
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I mean, what's the relevance of dragging her personal, private struggles through public mud? How does that help find her? I'm fairly certain that if this was my partner, this is not the kind of information I would want the police revealing unless there was a clear rationale behind releasing the information.
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Apparently someone who knows her very well had sold a story to the newspapers about her - presumably what the police have revealed. So her background was coming out anyway.
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Which would make some sense, but then surely you'd come out and say exactly that? I had actually seen rumours a week ago about alcohol abuse, but dismissed them obviously.
posted on 16/2/23
How does someone just fall into a river?
I could maybe imagine that if you were hammered or high as a kite but not otherwise
posted on 16/2/23
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 6 minutes ago
Because of its complexity. A normal day.
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Her partner is on record as saying it was not normal, that it was not the normal mayhem in the house getting ready for the day that day. That it was a week after a police visit also suggests some abnormality and possibly the police were aware of tittle tattle about that highly visible visit about to escape into the social media cesspit that led them to reveal more than they might normally?
Rather than speculate what happened is it better to speculate why the police did something?
FWIW, for such a mega high profile case there's a heck of a lot of weird stuff - drivers, fishermen, red van owners not coming forth to clear themselves.
posted on 16/2/23
Releasing info regarding her issues with alcohol may seem disrespectful and out of order, but imo there is some method behind doing so.
She may have / probably visited a convenience store or supermarket within the week of disappearing, had she purchased a particular alcohol that she or her partner does or not drink, may offer clues as to what happened thus the checkout operator may have noticed / heard something that hasn't been flagged yet. Was someone else with her in the shop, was someone watching her there? This info may open up new lines of enquiry.
posted on 16/2/23
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
How does someone just fall into a river?
I could maybe imagine that if you were hammered or high as a kite but not otherwise
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The part of the river directly below the bank in the area that she was last known to have been (near the bench) is very shallow. If you fell in at that point you'd get wet but the water would be somewhere between shin & thigh high depending on the day. So even if you were hammered and did fall in, you'd just be there on the rocks for everyone to see.
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