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Bairstow "run out"

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posted on 3/7/23

comment by Duncan1987 (U2291)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
let me draw this out for you with crayons
literally insane
cretin
thick head
you sound like you’ve gone in for a lobotomy

... all aimed at the same poster, who has been perfectly respectful all along ... and I'm only half-way through the thread!

Poor.
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This pretty par for the course. The main ashes thread is full of people implying aussies in general are morally bankrupt or unethical due to their heritage.
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That was me messing around.

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Duncan1987 (U2291)
posted 4 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 19 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
It was the fact it was the end of an over, the time where a batsman leaves the crease to talk to the other batsman.

A prescedent has been set now.
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you'll now see batsmen religiously sticking to their ground at the end of each over, adding c. 10 seconds to each one, meaning that each day will be extended by c. 15 minutes, or, in practice, that 3-4 more overs a day will be lost and never recovered.

that should bring in the crowds.

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Utter nonsense, 5 seconds at most, and it will come out of their chat.
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Couldn't agree more...complete nonsense of an argument

If Bairstow stays where he is for a few more.seconds, it means he has a few more seconds less to chat with his teammate ...that's all the "damage" it would do

The rules are that the batsman stays at his crease until the ball is dead

Here we've got yet another cricket fan trying to make a point that sticking to the rules is somehow unsportsmanlike, but showing a complete disregard for them and just swanning about doing what you want should be allowed and not frowned upon

Such a backwards viewpoint

posted on 3/7/23

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Duncan1987 (U2291)
posted 4 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 19 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
It was the fact it was the end of an over, the time where a batsman leaves the crease to talk to the other batsman.

A prescedent has been set now.
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you'll now see batsmen religiously sticking to their ground at the end of each over, adding c. 10 seconds to each one, meaning that each day will be extended by c. 15 minutes, or, in practice, that 3-4 more overs a day will be lost and never recovered.

that should bring in the crowds.

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Utter nonsense, 5 seconds at most, and it will come out of their chat.
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Couldn't agree more...complete nonsense of an argument

If Bairstow stays where he is for a few more.seconds, it means he has a few more seconds less to chat with his teammate ...that's all the "damage" it would do

The rules are that the batsman stays at his crease until the ball is dead

Here we've got yet another cricket fan trying to make a point that sticking to the rules is somehow unsportsmanlike, but showing a complete disregard for them and just swanning about doing what you want should be allowed and not frowned upon

Such a backwards viewpoint
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posted on 3/7/23

comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 23 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 15 minutes ago
If an Aussie batsman is hit by a bouncer in the next Test and is writhing in agony outside his crease, let's hope they have the gumption to stump him.
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This




It would be interesting to see the reaction, I don't think we're far off this happening as there is very little sportsmanship left in any sport, it's win at all costs.
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Pretty sure the ball would be dead in that case. Don't think we'll see either team try that one.

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Duncan1987 (U2291)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 23 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 15 minutes ago
If an Aussie batsman is hit by a bouncer in the next Test and is writhing in agony outside his crease, let's hope they have the gumption to stump him.
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This




It would be interesting to see the reaction, I don't think we're far off this happening as there is very little sportsmanship left in any sport, it's win at all costs.
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Pretty sure the ball would be dead in that case. Don't think we'll see either team try that one.
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Ball will be live but I'd be a tad annoyed if we resorted to that.

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 23 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
It was the fact it was the end of an over, the time where a batsman leaves the crease to talk to the other batsman.

A prescedent has been set now.
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That’s the crux of it for me. It was blatant what he was doing, walking down the pitch at the end of the over like all batsmen do. People acting like he was trying to take a quick single, they’re thick as feck.
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Literally no one thinks he was trying for a run.

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Duncan1987 (U2291)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 23 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 15 minutes ago
If an Aussie batsman is hit by a bouncer in the next Test and is writhing in agony outside his crease, let's hope they have the gumption to stump him.
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This




It would be interesting to see the reaction, I don't think we're far off this happening as there is very little sportsmanship left in any sport, it's win at all costs.
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Pretty sure the ball would be dead in that case. Don't think we'll see either team try that one.
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Ball will be live but I'd be a tad annoyed if we resorted to that.
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Pretty sure the umpire would call it dead in accordance with the laws.

Either umpire shall call and signal Dead ball when

20.4.2.1 intervening in a case of unfair play.

20.4.2.2 a possibly serious injury to a player or umpire occurs.

posted on 3/7/23

So no, this hypothetical point that was raised is moot as it would contravene the laws. Keep grasping though fellas.

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 3/7/23

If the wicket keeper makes a mistake, the batsmen can profit from it with runs and not a word is said

If the batsman makes a mistake, apparantly the wicket keeper isn't allowed to profit from it, he will get dogs abuse if he does, so he's got to be a good sport

On top of that...if the wicket keeper makes one mistake, it will no doubt be punished

The batsman is allowed to make the same mistake several times without the wicket keeper doing anything about it..but if he dares to try and catch him out after he's watched him do the same thing over and over....oh what a sneaky move, that's cheating, so unsportsmanlike

It's lunacy....fcking lunacy

posted on 3/7/23

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 16 minutes ago
If the wicket keeper makes a mistake, the batsmen can profit from it with runs and not a word is said

If the batsman makes a mistake, apparantly the wicket keeper isn't allowed to profit from it, he will get dogs abuse if he does, so he's got to be a good sport

On top of that...if the wicket keeper makes one mistake, it will no doubt be punished

The batsman is allowed to make the same mistake several times without the wicket keeper doing anything about it..but if he dares to try and catch him out after he's watched him do the same thing over and over....oh what a sneaky move, that's cheating, so unsportsmanlike

It's lunacy....fcking lunacy
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That’s an awful comparison.

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Duncan1987 (U2291)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 23 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
It was the fact it was the end of an over, the time where a batsman leaves the crease to talk to the other batsman.

A prescedent has been set now.
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That’s the crux of it for me. It was blatant what he was doing, walking down the pitch at the end of the over like all batsmen do. People acting like he was trying to take a quick single, they’re thick as feck.
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Literally no one thinks he was trying for a run.
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So everyone , including the opposition, knows he wasn’t trying for a run and that he thought it was the end of the over, which it basically was, semantics aside. It shouldn’t have happened.

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Duncan1987 (U2291)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 23 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
It was the fact it was the end of an over, the time where a batsman leaves the crease to talk to the other batsman.

A prescedent has been set now.
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That’s the crux of it for me. It was blatant what he was doing, walking down the pitch at the end of the over like all batsmen do. People acting like he was trying to take a quick single, they’re thick as feck.
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Literally no one thinks he was trying for a run.
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So everyone , including the opposition, knows he wasn’t trying for a run and that he thought it was the end of the over, which it basically was, semantics aside. It shouldn’t have happened.
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Everyone knew the ball wasn't dead apart from Bairstow cos he didn't look. Entirely his fault. Who cares what Bairstow was doing whilst the ball was live

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 16 minutes ago
If the wicket keeper makes a mistake, the batsmen can profit from it with runs and not a word is said

If the batsman makes a mistake, apparantly the wicket keeper isn't allowed to profit from it, he will get dogs abuse if he does, so he's got to be a good sport

On top of that...if the wicket keeper makes one mistake, it will no doubt be punished

The batsman is allowed to make the same mistake several times without the wicket keeper doing anything about it..but if he dares to try and catch him out after he's watched him do the same thing over and over....oh what a sneaky move, that's cheating, so unsportsmanlike

It's lunacy....fcking lunacy
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That’s an awful comparison.
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It isn't...it really isn't

If the batsman is going to continually leave his crease without looking or checking to see if the ball is dead...it's no worse than a wicket keeper letting what should be an easy catch slip past him because he didn't concentrate enough and just took things for granted

posted on 4/7/23

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 5 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 16 minutes ago
If the wicket keeper makes a mistake, the batsmen can profit from it with runs and not a word is said

If the batsman makes a mistake, apparantly the wicket keeper isn't allowed to profit from it, he will get dogs abuse if he does, so he's got to be a good sport

On top of that...if the wicket keeper makes one mistake, it will no doubt be punished

The batsman is allowed to make the same mistake several times without the wicket keeper doing anything about it..but if he dares to try and catch him out after he's watched him do the same thing over and over....oh what a sneaky move, that's cheating, so unsportsmanlike

It's lunacy....fcking lunacy
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That’s an awful comparison.
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It isn't...it really isn't

If the batsman is going to continually leave his crease without looking or checking to see if the ball is dead...it's no worse than a wicket keeper letting what should be an easy catch slip past him because he didn't concentrate enough and just took things for granted
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Not the same at all.

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 4/7/23

It really is

All Bairstow has to do is fcking stand there for a few seconds...that's it

He doesn't, he makes an assumption, he's not focused enough

Listen to Nasser Hussain talking after the result yesterday....Austraila were ruthless and clinical, and they did so all well within the rules.....England were lax and not switched on enough....all this nonsense is all down to an error made my one man, and he wasn't playing for Australia

posted on 4/7/23

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 6 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 16 minutes ago
If the wicket keeper makes a mistake, the batsmen can profit from it with runs and not a word is said

If the batsman makes a mistake, apparantly the wicket keeper isn't allowed to profit from it, he will get dogs abuse if he does, so he's got to be a good sport

On top of that...if the wicket keeper makes one mistake, it will no doubt be punished

The batsman is allowed to make the same mistake several times without the wicket keeper doing anything about it..but if he dares to try and catch him out after he's watched him do the same thing over and over....oh what a sneaky move, that's cheating, so unsportsmanlike

It's lunacy....fcking lunacy
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That’s an awful comparison.
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It isn't...it really isn't

If the batsman is going to continually leave his crease without looking or checking to see if the ball is dead...it's no worse than a wicket keeper letting what should be an easy catch slip past him because he didn't concentrate enough and just took things for granted
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Look, if you think that’s a valid comparison then it’s utterly pointless saying anything else to you.

I might have the wrong poster, but didn’t you say that you don’t really know much about cricket?

posted on 4/7/23


I might have the wrong poster, but didn’t you say that you don’t really know much about cricket?
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Dunno about Steve, but I said it several times.

My query, though, was regarding whether the whole 'spirit of the sport' argument should not equally apply to England's bowling the day before. Not because I know better, but because of what I read about it in the papers and the information I've been given here.

It just seems odd that it's just been swept under the carpet when just 24 hours before it was seemed to be heavily questionable even for English cricket writers.

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 4/7/23

“ Look, if you think that’s a valid comparison then it’s utterly pointless saying anything else to you.

I might have the wrong poster, but didn’t you say that you don’t really know much about cricket?”
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I think you’ve made it pretty clear that it’s utterly pointless putting any point of view to you if it’s not one you share

Forgive me if I was being a good sport by not agreeing with you, I know how touchy you cricket fans get with this stuff

Barstow made a mistake…he got punished

Other people in this sport make mistakes….they get punished, nothing said, was their mistake

Other people in other sports make mistakes….they get punished, nothing said, was their mistake

Only in Cricket would anyone try and defend someone and cry foul, for simply switching off and blatantly ignoring what was happening on the field behind them

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 4/7/23

*wasnt

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