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posted on 2/7/23

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
It was the fact it was the end of an over, the time where a batsman leaves the crease to talk to the other batsman.

A prescedent has been set now.
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That’s the crux of it for me. It was blatant what he was doing, walking down the pitch at the end of the over like all batsmen do. People acting like he was trying to take a quick single, they’re thick as feck.
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No one is acting like he was taking a quick single.
He had been doing it regularly before the incident, displaying the fact he wasn’t aware of the rules. Bairstow has form for this - not grounding his bat when being run out for example. Not the first time he has not followed the basics

The Aussies simply capitalised and it was perfectly within the laws of the game. The people thick as feck are the ones that need it explaining to them
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No one’s arguing it’s against the laws of thr game, some people will think it’s beyond the spirit of the game, some won’t. Neither opinion is invalid or makes anyone thick, it’s down to personally how much people stick to the spirit or the laws. That’s why you gave differences in opinion about it from both Australian and English commentators and ex players, some think it was ok, others don’t.

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Those that don’t do so far appear to be in the minority but time will tell. I don’t think anyone is thick for thinking it’s not ok - I think the way one or two posters have defended their arguments have been piiiss poor. And I’m calling them out on it

posted on 2/7/23

comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
It was the fact it was the end of an over, the time where a batsman leaves the crease to talk to the other batsman.

A prescedent has been set now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s the crux of it for me. It was blatant what he was doing, walking down the pitch at the end of the over like all batsmen do. People acting like he was trying to take a quick single, they’re thick as feck.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one is acting like he was taking a quick single.
He had been doing it regularly before the incident, displaying the fact he wasn’t aware of the rules. Bairstow has form for this - not grounding his bat when being run out for example. Not the first time he has not followed the basics

The Aussies simply capitalised and it was perfectly within the laws of the game. The people thick as feck are the ones that need it explaining to them
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No one’s arguing it’s against the laws of thr game, some people will think it’s beyond the spirit of the game, some won’t. Neither opinion is invalid or makes anyone thick, it’s down to personally how much people stick to the spirit or the laws. That’s why you gave differences in opinion about it from both Australian and English commentators and ex players, some think it was ok, others don’t.

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Those that don’t do so far appear to be in the minority but time will tell. I don’t think anyone is thick for thinking it’s not ok - I think the way one or two posters have defended their arguments have been piiiss poor. And I’m calling them out on it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The basis of your argument is that it’s because they’re English. Genius.

Our manager is from NZ and he didn’t seem to think it was ok.

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 2/7/23

"It’s the bad sportsmanship that’s the issue, and whether you like it or not, it’s a thing in cricket."

It's taken to ridiculous levels in cricket though..that's the issue

If Bairstow has been swanning away from his stumps on several occasions throughout his innings in this ashes series, and the Aussies have decided not to catch him out, time after time after time....is it perhaps not Bairstows own fault that he got caught out if he's been expecting them to "be a good sport" all the time?

posted on 2/7/23

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 52 seconds ago
Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.

Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
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Broad is a complete hypocrite - it’s ’spirit of the game’ when it suits him.


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Yeah, he is. He’d have made the same decision as Cummins. Plenty wouldn’t though.
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Like who? Cos I don’t believe Ben Stokes today at all when he said that
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well if you’re not going to believe someone who specifically commented on it then you’re clearly not going to believe anyone I suggest!

The one that’s doing the rounds on socials atm seems to be when Doni recalled Bell after they ran him out when he believed he’d hit a 4. Bell was totally at fault and was out by the laws but Doni recognised it for what it was.
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I’m not going to believe someone on the losing side of a controversial decision who is giving an interview moments after the match has finished.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’re just an utter clown who hates English.
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I am English you thick scouse 😂😂😂
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I know you’re English smart bloke. Plenty of English who don’t like the English.
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How would you know I’m English? This is an internet forum you bell, I could tell you anything. 😂😂😂

But for the record, I’ve got no issue with my nationality or identity - however that’s not to say i’m not embarrassed by our overly generous weak mentality fair play approach to international cricket. It’s just an aspect of our culture I don’t like

posted on 2/7/23

comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
It was the fact it was the end of an over, the time where a batsman leaves the crease to talk to the other batsman.

A prescedent has been set now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s the crux of it for me. It was blatant what he was doing, walking down the pitch at the end of the over like all batsmen do. People acting like he was trying to take a quick single, they’re thick as feck.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one is acting like he was taking a quick single.
He had been doing it regularly before the incident, displaying the fact he wasn’t aware of the rules. Bairstow has form for this - not grounding his bat when being run out for example. Not the first time he has not followed the basics

The Aussies simply capitalised and it was perfectly within the laws of the game. The people thick as feck are the ones that need it explaining to them
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No one’s arguing it’s against the laws of thr game, some people will think it’s beyond the spirit of the game, some won’t. Neither opinion is invalid or makes anyone thick, it’s down to personally how much people stick to the spirit or the laws. That’s why you gave differences in opinion about it from both Australian and English commentators and ex players, some think it was ok, others don’t.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those that don’t do so far appear to be in the minority but time will tell. I don’t think anyone is thick for thinking it’s not ok - I think the way one or two posters have defended their arguments have been piiiss poor. And I’m calling them out on it
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I’ve seen quite a few and most of the Aussies on TMS were clearly not in favour of it.

Personally, I didn’t agree with it. Yes Bairstow moved quickly but he’d re-marked his spot and the umpire wasnt even looking, he was in the process of getting the bowlers cap. Also taking into account it wasn’t down him to trying to get an advantage or anything (like a mankad can be), it’s now how I like to see wickets taken.

posted on 2/7/23

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
It was the fact it was the end of an over, the time where a batsman leaves the crease to talk to the other batsman.

A prescedent has been set now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s the crux of it for me. It was blatant what he was doing, walking down the pitch at the end of the over like all batsmen do. People acting like he was trying to take a quick single, they’re thick as feck.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one is acting like he was taking a quick single.
He had been doing it regularly before the incident, displaying the fact he wasn’t aware of the rules. Bairstow has form for this - not grounding his bat when being run out for example. Not the first time he has not followed the basics

The Aussies simply capitalised and it was perfectly within the laws of the game. The people thick as feck are the ones that need it explaining to them
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No one’s arguing it’s against the laws of thr game, some people will think it’s beyond the spirit of the game, some won’t. Neither opinion is invalid or makes anyone thick, it’s down to personally how much people stick to the spirit or the laws. That’s why you gave differences in opinion about it from both Australian and English commentators and ex players, some think it was ok, others don’t.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those that don’t do so far appear to be in the minority but time will tell. I don’t think anyone is thick for thinking it’s not ok - I think the way one or two posters have defended their arguments have been piiiss poor. And I’m calling them out on it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The basis of your argument is that it’s because they’re English. Genius.

Our manager is from NZ and he didn’t seem to think it was ok.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The basis of my argument is that the English have form for crying fair play when the rules go against them. There’s been lots of material written about the traditions of English fair play, how we view it differently to other nations and how it’s most strongest in our approach to sport.

Understanding that argument however would require you to read, which given you’re from Liverpool is unlikely to be a skill you possess

posted on 2/7/23

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
It was the fact it was the end of an over, the time where a batsman leaves the crease to talk to the other batsman.

A prescedent has been set now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s the crux of it for me. It was blatant what he was doing, walking down the pitch at the end of the over like all batsmen do. People acting like he was trying to take a quick single, they’re thick as feck.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one is acting like he was taking a quick single.
He had been doing it regularly before the incident, displaying the fact he wasn’t aware of the rules. Bairstow has form for this - not grounding his bat when being run out for example. Not the first time he has not followed the basics

The Aussies simply capitalised and it was perfectly within the laws of the game. The people thick as feck are the ones that need it explaining to them
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No one’s arguing it’s against the laws of thr game, some people will think it’s beyond the spirit of the game, some won’t. Neither opinion is invalid or makes anyone thick, it’s down to personally how much people stick to the spirit or the laws. That’s why you gave differences in opinion about it from both Australian and English commentators and ex players, some think it was ok, others don’t.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those that don’t do so far appear to be in the minority but time will tell. I don’t think anyone is thick for thinking it’s not ok - I think the way one or two posters have defended their arguments have been piiiss poor. And I’m calling them out on it
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I’ve seen quite a few and most of the Aussies on TMS were clearly not in favour of it.

Personally, I didn’t agree with it. Yes Bairstow moved quickly but he’d re-marked his spot and the umpire wasnt even looking, he was in the process of getting the bowlers cap. Also taking into account it wasn’t down him to trying to get an advantage or anything (like a mankad can be), it’s now how I like to see wickets taken.

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Oh well if it’s not how you like to see wickets taken then we should have a re-match. Have you let Pat Cummins know how you feel? Sure he’ll have trouble sleeping tonight after a few boos at lords

posted on 2/7/23

“ Our manager is from NZ and he didn’t seem to think it was ok.”

Comment or the day from Terminator1. Let’s frame this one. The England manager who is from NZ didn’t think it was ok. Wow. I wonder why he didn’t agree with it? Surely it’s not cos he’s being paid to manage England? Nope. Case closed. That’s a slam dunk

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 2/7/23

"Bairstow moved quickly"
"umpire wasnt even looking, he was in the process of getting the bowlers cap"

See for me...these are the issues that should be addressed

Umpire should be declaring the ball is dead....he didn't bother his erse

Bairstow not giving a second though as to whether the ball was still live or not

Change the laws, sort this out....you do that, everyone knows when the ball is live/dead, so if a similar situation occurs, there nonoutcry about sportsmanship

Way too many things in cricket are left down to players "being good sports"....when it's basic stuff like this, it is so needlessly left like that, its unbelievable

posted on 2/7/23

comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 6 hours, 50 minutes ago
Don’t see anything wrong with it. Bairstow was constantly walking out of his crease. Very poor awareness
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Agreed. Far too casual and presumptuous

posted on 2/7/23

comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 6 hours, 50 minutes ago
Don’t see anything wrong with it. Bairstow was constantly walking out of his crease. Very poor awareness
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Agreed. Far too casual and presumptuous
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posted on 2/7/23

comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 52 seconds ago
Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.

Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
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Broad is a complete hypocrite - it’s ’spirit of the game’ when it suits him.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah, he is. He’d have made the same decision as Cummins. Plenty wouldn’t though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like who? Cos I don’t believe Ben Stokes today at all when he said that
----------------------------------------------------------------------

well if you’re not going to believe someone who specifically commented on it then you’re clearly not going to believe anyone I suggest!

The one that’s doing the rounds on socials atm seems to be when Doni recalled Bell after they ran him out when he believed he’d hit a 4. Bell was totally at fault and was out by the laws but Doni recognised it for what it was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m not going to believe someone on the losing side of a controversial decision who is giving an interview moments after the match has finished.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’re just an utter clown who hates English.
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I am English you thick scouse 😂😂😂
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I know you’re English smart bloke. Plenty of English who don’t like the English.
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How would you know I’m English? This is an internet forum you bell, I could tell you anything. 😂😂😂

But for the record, I’ve got no issue with my nationality or identity - however that’s not to say i’m not embarrassed by our overly generous weak mentality fair play approach to international cricket. It’s just an aspect of our culture I don’t like
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You said earlier you were English, or at least heavily implied it. You’re also clearly very odd coming out with stuff like that.

posted on 2/7/23

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 52 seconds ago
Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.

Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Broad is a complete hypocrite - it’s ’spirit of the game’ when it suits him.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah, he is. He’d have made the same decision as Cummins. Plenty wouldn’t though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like who? Cos I don’t believe Ben Stokes today at all when he said that
----------------------------------------------------------------------

well if you’re not going to believe someone who specifically commented on it then you’re clearly not going to believe anyone I suggest!

The one that’s doing the rounds on socials atm seems to be when Doni recalled Bell after they ran him out when he believed he’d hit a 4. Bell was totally at fault and was out by the laws but Doni recognised it for what it was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m not going to believe someone on the losing side of a controversial decision who is giving an interview moments after the match has finished.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’re just an utter clown who hates English.
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I am English you thick scouse 😂😂😂
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I know you’re English smart bloke. Plenty of English who don’t like the English.
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How would you know I’m English? This is an internet forum you bell, I could tell you anything. 😂😂😂

But for the record, I’ve got no issue with my nationality or identity - however that’s not to say i’m not embarrassed by our overly generous weak mentality fair play approach to international cricket. It’s just an aspect of our culture I don’t like
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You said earlier you were English, or at least heavily implied it. You’re also clearly very odd coming out with stuff like that.
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I said I’m English on an internet forum so I must be?

The only thing very odd is that my comments have clearly wound you up to the point where you can’t let this go 😂

posted on 2/7/23

comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
It was the fact it was the end of an over, the time where a batsman leaves the crease to talk to the other batsman.

A prescedent has been set now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s the crux of it for me. It was blatant what he was doing, walking down the pitch at the end of the over like all batsmen do. People acting like he was trying to take a quick single, they’re thick as feck.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one is acting like he was taking a quick single.
He had been doing it regularly before the incident, displaying the fact he wasn’t aware of the rules. Bairstow has form for this - not grounding his bat when being run out for example. Not the first time he has not followed the basics

The Aussies simply capitalised and it was perfectly within the laws of the game. The people thick as feck are the ones that need it explaining to them
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No one’s arguing it’s against the laws of thr game, some people will think it’s beyond the spirit of the game, some won’t. Neither opinion is invalid or makes anyone thick, it’s down to personally how much people stick to the spirit or the laws. That’s why you gave differences in opinion about it from both Australian and English commentators and ex players, some think it was ok, others don’t.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those that don’t do so far appear to be in the minority but time will tell. I don’t think anyone is thick for thinking it’s not ok - I think the way one or two posters have defended their arguments have been piiiss poor. And I’m calling them out on it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The basis of your argument is that it’s because they’re English. Genius.

Our manager is from NZ and he didn’t seem to think it was ok.
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The basis of my argument is that the English have form for crying fair play when the rules go against them. There’s been lots of material written about the traditions of English fair play, how we view it differently to other nations and how it’s most strongest in our approach to sport.

Understanding that argument however would require you to read, which given you’re from Liverpool is unlikely to be a skill you possess
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No one’s arguing about the rules, but it’s all you’re droning on about.

And I’m not from Liverpool and have never suggested I am. Nice bit of bigotry though, really backing yourself up well.

posted on 2/7/23

I mean haven’t you got car stereos to nick? 😂

posted on 2/7/23

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
It was the fact it was the end of an over, the time where a batsman leaves the crease to talk to the other batsman.

A prescedent has been set now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s the crux of it for me. It was blatant what he was doing, walking down the pitch at the end of the over like all batsmen do. People acting like he was trying to take a quick single, they’re thick as feck.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one is acting like he was taking a quick single.
He had been doing it regularly before the incident, displaying the fact he wasn’t aware of the rules. Bairstow has form for this - not grounding his bat when being run out for example. Not the first time he has not followed the basics

The Aussies simply capitalised and it was perfectly within the laws of the game. The people thick as feck are the ones that need it explaining to them
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No one’s arguing it’s against the laws of thr game, some people will think it’s beyond the spirit of the game, some won’t. Neither opinion is invalid or makes anyone thick, it’s down to personally how much people stick to the spirit or the laws. That’s why you gave differences in opinion about it from both Australian and English commentators and ex players, some think it was ok, others don’t.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those that don’t do so far appear to be in the minority but time will tell. I don’t think anyone is thick for thinking it’s not ok - I think the way one or two posters have defended their arguments have been piiiss poor. And I’m calling them out on it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The basis of your argument is that it’s because they’re English. Genius.

Our manager is from NZ and he didn’t seem to think it was ok.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The basis of my argument is that the English have form for crying fair play when the rules go against them. There’s been lots of material written about the traditions of English fair play, how we view it differently to other nations and how it’s most strongest in our approach to sport.

Understanding that argument however would require you to read, which given you’re from Liverpool is unlikely to be a skill you possess
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No one’s arguing about the rules, but it’s all you’re droning on about.

And I’m not from Liverpool and have never suggested I am. Nice bit of bigotry though, really backing yourself up well.
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So you support Liverpool but you’re not from there?

posted on 2/7/23

comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 10 minutes ago
“ Our manager is from NZ and he didn’t seem to think it was ok.”
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still laughing at this beauty

posted on 2/7/23

comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 52 seconds ago
Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.

Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
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Broad is a complete hypocrite - it’s ’spirit of the game’ when it suits him.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah, he is. He’d have made the same decision as Cummins. Plenty wouldn’t though.
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Like who? Cos I don’t believe Ben Stokes today at all when he said that
----------------------------------------------------------------------

well if you’re not going to believe someone who specifically commented on it then you’re clearly not going to believe anyone I suggest!

The one that’s doing the rounds on socials atm seems to be when Doni recalled Bell after they ran him out when he believed he’d hit a 4. Bell was totally at fault and was out by the laws but Doni recognised it for what it was.
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I’m not going to believe someone on the losing side of a controversial decision who is giving an interview moments after the match has finished.
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You’re just an utter clown who hates English.
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I am English you thick scouse 😂😂😂
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I know you’re English smart bloke. Plenty of English who don’t like the English.
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How would you know I’m English? This is an internet forum you bell, I could tell you anything. 😂😂😂

But for the record, I’ve got no issue with my nationality or identity - however that’s not to say i’m not embarrassed by our overly generous weak mentality fair play approach to international cricket. It’s just an aspect of our culture I don’t like
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You said earlier you were English, or at least heavily implied it. You’re also clearly very odd coming out with stuff like that.
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I said I’m English on an internet forum so I must be?

The only thing very odd is that my comments have clearly wound you up to the point where you can’t let this go 😂
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Well I go on the basis that a normal person wouldn’t make up where they’re from. What is actually wrong with you?

posted on 2/7/23

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Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.

Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
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Broad is a complete hypocrite - it’s ’spirit of the game’ when it suits him.


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Yeah, he is. He’d have made the same decision as Cummins. Plenty wouldn’t though.
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Like who? Cos I don’t believe Ben Stokes today at all when he said that
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well if you’re not going to believe someone who specifically commented on it then you’re clearly not going to believe anyone I suggest!

The one that’s doing the rounds on socials atm seems to be when Doni recalled Bell after they ran him out when he believed he’d hit a 4. Bell was totally at fault and was out by the laws but Doni recognised it for what it was.
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I’m not going to believe someone on the losing side of a controversial decision who is giving an interview moments after the match has finished.
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You’re just an utter clown who hates English.
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I am English you thick scouse 😂😂😂
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I know you’re English smart bloke. Plenty of English who don’t like the English.
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How would you know I’m English? This is an internet forum you bell, I could tell you anything. 😂😂😂

But for the record, I’ve got no issue with my nationality or identity - however that’s not to say i’m not embarrassed by our overly generous weak mentality fair play approach to international cricket. It’s just an aspect of our culture I don’t like
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You said earlier you were English, or at least heavily implied it. You’re also clearly very odd coming out with stuff like that.
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I said I’m English on an internet forum so I must be?

The only thing very odd is that my comments have clearly wound you up to the point where you can’t let this go 😂
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Well I go on the basis that a normal person wouldn’t make up where they’re from. What is actually wrong with you?
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You’re going on the basis of trusting what someone on an internet forum tells you which makes you more naive than Bairstow

The point I’m making is neither of us know anything about each other - so stop making out I hate the English based on a comment I’ve made about our attitude to fair play you mug

posted on 2/7/23

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“ Our manager is from NZ and he didn’t seem to think it was ok.”
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still laughing at this beauty
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It’s nothing to get excited about. I’d like to think he’d say if he didn’t have a problem with it, but he’s just being honest with his actual opinion.

You’re getting worse with every post.

posted on 2/7/23

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It was the fact it was the end of an over, the time where a batsman leaves the crease to talk to the other batsman.

A prescedent has been set now.
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That’s the crux of it for me. It was blatant what he was doing, walking down the pitch at the end of the over like all batsmen do. People acting like he was trying to take a quick single, they’re thick as feck.
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No one is acting like he was taking a quick single.
He had been doing it regularly before the incident, displaying the fact he wasn’t aware of the rules. Bairstow has form for this - not grounding his bat when being run out for example. Not the first time he has not followed the basics

The Aussies simply capitalised and it was perfectly within the laws of the game. The people thick as feck are the ones that need it explaining to them
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No one’s arguing it’s against the laws of thr game, some people will think it’s beyond the spirit of the game, some won’t. Neither opinion is invalid or makes anyone thick, it’s down to personally how much people stick to the spirit or the laws. That’s why you gave differences in opinion about it from both Australian and English commentators and ex players, some think it was ok, others don’t.

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Those that don’t do so far appear to be in the minority but time will tell. I don’t think anyone is thick for thinking it’s not ok - I think the way one or two posters have defended their arguments have been piiiss poor. And I’m calling them out on it
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I’ve seen quite a few and most of the Aussies on TMS were clearly not in favour of it.

Personally, I didn’t agree with it. Yes Bairstow moved quickly but he’d re-marked his spot and the umpire wasnt even looking, he was in the process of getting the bowlers cap. Also taking into account it wasn’t down him to trying to get an advantage or anything (like a mankad can be), it’s now how I like to see wickets taken.

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Oh well if it’s not how you like to see wickets taken then we should have a re-match. Have you let Pat Cummins know how you feel? Sure he’ll have trouble sleeping tonight after a few boos at lords
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Why, given even in that conversation you’ve quoted I’ve said both opinions are valid, would you think I’d want that to happen…? Or are you suggesting we shouldn’t be sharing opinions at all, a strange argument on a forum granted but not sure how else your thought process worked to respond with that?

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posted on 2/7/23

Folk saying you can't equate football situations with cricket because sportsmanship and spirit of the game is a major thing in cricket, unlike football

Football is a sport that stubbornly opposed the use of technology and VAR, even when it was obvious that things like goal line rechnology and VAR were valuable additions that would mean major decisions in massive matches, were not solely relying on the prowess of the officials who can and will make mistakes

For all Cricket wants to spout this spirit of the game stuff, things like Hawkeye, snicko and DRS were all introduced so major decisions in massive matches were not solely relying on the prowess of the umpires

With that being the case....why the fck is cricket still expecting players to be good sports and not do things that are perfectly legal and well within the rules, and then have a proper go at them when they do

Surely bringing in a review system in that lets players overrule the umpires is far more against "the spirit of the game", than players doing things that are perfectly legal and within the rules

It's utter lunacy

posted on 2/7/23

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It was the fact it was the end of an over, the time where a batsman leaves the crease to talk to the other batsman.

A prescedent has been set now.
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That’s the crux of it for me. It was blatant what he was doing, walking down the pitch at the end of the over like all batsmen do. People acting like he was trying to take a quick single, they’re thick as feck.
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No one is acting like he was taking a quick single.
He had been doing it regularly before the incident, displaying the fact he wasn’t aware of the rules. Bairstow has form for this - not grounding his bat when being run out for example. Not the first time he has not followed the basics

The Aussies simply capitalised and it was perfectly within the laws of the game. The people thick as feck are the ones that need it explaining to them
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No one’s arguing it’s against the laws of thr game, some people will think it’s beyond the spirit of the game, some won’t. Neither opinion is invalid or makes anyone thick, it’s down to personally how much people stick to the spirit or the laws. That’s why you gave differences in opinion about it from both Australian and English commentators and ex players, some think it was ok, others don’t.

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Those that don’t do so far appear to be in the minority but time will tell. I don’t think anyone is thick for thinking it’s not ok - I think the way one or two posters have defended their arguments have been piiiss poor. And I’m calling them out on it
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I’ve seen quite a few and most of the Aussies on TMS were clearly not in favour of it.

Personally, I didn’t agree with it. Yes Bairstow moved quickly but he’d re-marked his spot and the umpire wasnt even looking, he was in the process of getting the bowlers cap. Also taking into account it wasn’t down him to trying to get an advantage or anything (like a mankad can be), it’s now how I like to see wickets taken.

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Oh well if it’s not how you like to see wickets taken then we should have a re-match. Have you let Pat Cummins know how you feel? Sure he’ll have trouble sleeping tonight after a few boos at lords
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Why, given even in that conversation you’ve quoted I’ve said both opinions are valid, would you think I’d want that to happen…? Or are you suggesting we shouldn’t be sharing opinions at all, a strange argument on a forum granted but not sure how else your thought process worked to respond with that?
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The point is no one gives a toss about our opinion on fair play do they? When it comes down to the crunch the Aussies are 2-0 up in the series while we’re crying fair play. I’m not saying sharing an opinion is invalid but the whole ‘oooh that’s not how I like wickets to be taken’ just seems like you’d rather lose and adopt the moral high ground

posted on 2/7/23

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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“ Our manager is from NZ and he didn’t seem to think it was ok.”
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still laughing at this beauty
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It’s nothing to get excited about. I’d like to think he’d say if he didn’t have a problem with it, but he’s just being honest with his actual opinion.

You’re getting worse with every post.
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He’s the England manager you facktard 😂😂😂😂😂 What do you expect him to say

Oh my days 😂😂😂😂

posted on 2/7/23

Are you suggesting we’re only complaining because we lost?

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