Genuine question: how come it seems to be within the spirit of the game to spend an entire afternoon aiming for the batsmen instead of the wicket?
Was it always that way (even before the days of helmets and the like) or has the game moved on from then?
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
There is no law against going through a door and letting it swing back into an old ladies face. But we don't do it.
Life is stuffed full of unwritten laws, but we obey them to make lift better for all.
Nobody wants to play a sport where you have to study all the laws of the game
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What on earth are you smoking??? 😂😂😂
Since when has opening doors for people been an international sport?? 😂
I think you’re getting completely mixed up here between morality as a human being and playing a game of sport within a set of rules
And your sentence about nobody wanting a sport where you have to study the rules is literally insane. The laws of the game are an intrinsic part of playing it - you learn them as you develop from being a kid. If you don’t like the number of laws in a game or how they are applied you pick a different sport. You HAVE to know the rules to play any kind of sport. That means studying them yes
I’m beginning to think you don’t actually watch cricket that much…..
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I'm beginning to think you don't understand an allusion of how 'sporting behaviour ' enters everyday life.
What I genuinely am surprised about is that you and others don't understand about sporting behaviour, it's win at all cost. Is there a change when you go from amateur to professional, schoolboy to amateur?
Literally insane. As luck would have it I'm in hospital. I'll have a conversation as to whether post is 'literally insane '.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 3 minutes ago
weird arguments trying to make this just a cricket thing - often accompanies by linking cricket with that old favourite, "english arrogance" - as if we've never seen a debate in football about one team kicking the ball out for an injury and then not getting it back, or a player calling a foul on himself in snooker, or a tennis player taking a lengthy toilet break when they are struggling in a match etc.
these grey areas exist in all sports, and there is constant debate by fans of all sports, from all countries, about this kind of stuff.
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Don't shout at me again, but there is an element of English arrogance in most sports. "We don't do that kind of stuff" any time a foreign player or team do something a bit out of the norm. Then the hypocrisy to defend the same thing when an English player or team does do it. Maybe you guys don't know that you do it so welcome us pointing it out. More likely shouting at me will be the response.
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 23 seconds ago
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Don't shout at me again, but there is an element of English arrogance in most sports. "We don't do that kind of stuff" any time a foreign player or team do something a bit out of the norm. Then the hypocrisy to defend the same thing when an English player or team does do it. Maybe you guys don't know that you do it so welcome us pointing it out. More likely shouting at me will be the response.
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you're too boring to shout out, just go away.
Jim Maxwell, the legendary Australian commentator who is working for Test Match Special, was one of the few voices that believed Australia were in the wrong.
“That leaves a sour taste,” Maxwell said. “They should have withdrawn the appeal.”
Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.
Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
There is no law against going through a door and letting it swing back into an old ladies face. But we don't do it.
Life is stuffed full of unwritten laws, but we obey them to make lift better for all.
Nobody wants to play a sport where you have to study all the laws of the game
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What on earth are you smoking??? 😂😂😂
Since when has opening doors for people been an international sport?? 😂
I think you’re getting completely mixed up here between morality as a human being and playing a game of sport within a set of rules
And your sentence about nobody wanting a sport where you have to study the rules is literally insane. The laws of the game are an intrinsic part of playing it - you learn them as you develop from being a kid. If you don’t like the number of laws in a game or how they are applied you pick a different sport. You HAVE to know the rules to play any kind of sport. That means studying them yes
I’m beginning to think you don’t actually watch cricket that much…..
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I'm beginning to think you don't understand an allusion of how 'sporting behaviour ' enters everyday life.
What I genuinely am surprised about is that you and others don't understand about sporting behaviour, it's win at all cost. Is there a change when you go from amateur to professional, schoolboy to amateur?
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It’s win WITHIN THE LAWS of the game you cretin. Can I ask you a question - does the fact that the cricket commentators I’ve mentioned, who have decades of international cricketing experience between them, not give you a hint that you might be wrong here?
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 23 seconds ago
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Don't shout at me again, but there is an element of English arrogance in most sports. "We don't do that kind of stuff" any time a foreign player or team do something a bit out of the norm. Then the hypocrisy to defend the same thing when an English player or team does do it. Maybe you guys don't know that you do it so welcome us pointing it out. More likely shouting at me will be the response.
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you're too boring to shout out, just go away.
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Is what I am saying untrue or you just don't want to hear it?
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 52 seconds ago
Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.
Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
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Broad is a complete hypocrite - it’s ’spirit of the game’ when it suits him.
It wasn't like Bairstow immediately left his crease, he paused before he walked.. The keeper, though, had thrown the ball as soon as it was in his glove. There have been situations when batsmen not on strike have been run out for backing up too far. On some of those occasions the fielding side asked for the batsman to be recalled. They are both situations that are within the laws but they are deemed not to be in the spirit of the game.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
Jim Maxwell, the legendary Australian commentator who is working for Test Match Special, was one of the few voices that believed Australia were in the wrong.
“That leaves a sour taste,” Maxwell said. “They should have withdrawn the appeal.”
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Great you’ve found one commentator. Well done. There are many many others who think Bairstow was totally naive and it’s perfectly fine
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
Jim Maxwell, the legendary Australian commentator who is working for Test Match Special, was one of the few voices that believed Australia were in the wrong.
“That leaves a sour taste,” Maxwell said. “They should have withdrawn the appeal.”
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..all because the laws of the game allow it to happen, but it is "frowned upon"
Either change the laws so it can't happen, or accept that its part of the game and that batsmen can and will be stumped if they just casually walk away at any point without knowing or checking if the ball is dead or not
It really is pretty simple like
comment by canspur (U17707)
posted 30 seconds ago
It wasn't like Bairstow immediately left his crease, he paused before he walked.. The keeper, though, had thrown the ball as soon as it was in his glove. There have been situations when batsmen not on strike have been run out for backing up too far. On some of those occasions the fielding side asked for the batsman to be recalled. They are both situations that are within the laws but they are deemed not to be in the spirit of the game.
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As Cummings said, Bairstow was routinely walking out of his crease before over was called. It’s stupid and naive. Carey was smart - Bairstow wasn’t. There is no gentlemen’s agreement, there are a set of laws and you play to them. Exactly the same as when he forgot to ground his bat when he got run out - the guy is an absolute dope and responsible in part for todays loss
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
Jim Maxwell, the legendary Australian commentator who is working for Test Match Special, was one of the few voices that believed Australia were in the wrong.
“That leaves a sour taste,” Maxwell said. “They should have withdrawn the appeal.”
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..all because the laws of the game allow it to happen, but it is "frowned upon"
Either change the laws so it can't happen, or accept that its part of the game and that batsmen can and will be stumped if they just casually walk away at any point without knowing or checking if the ball is dead or not
It really is pretty simple like
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Simple to most of us……
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
There is no law against going through a door and letting it swing back into an old ladies face. But we don't do it.
Life is stuffed full of unwritten laws, but we obey them to make lift better for all.
Nobody wants to play a sport where you have to study all the laws of the game
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What on earth are you smoking??? 😂😂😂
Since when has opening doors for people been an international sport?? 😂
I think you’re getting completely mixed up here between morality as a human being and playing a game of sport within a set of rules
And your sentence about nobody wanting a sport where you have to study the rules is literally insane. The laws of the game are an intrinsic part of playing it - you learn them as you develop from being a kid. If you don’t like the number of laws in a game or how they are applied you pick a different sport. You HAVE to know the rules to play any kind of sport. That means studying them yes
I’m beginning to think you don’t actually watch cricket that much…..
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I'm beginning to think you don't understand an allusion of how 'sporting behaviour ' enters everyday life.
What I genuinely am surprised about is that you and others don't understand about sporting behaviour, it's win at all cost. Is there a change when you go from amateur to professional, schoolboy to amateur?
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It’s win WITHIN THE LAWS of the game you cretin. Can I ask you a question - does the fact that the cricket commentators I’ve mentioned, who have decades of international cricketing experience between them, not give you a hint that you might be wrong here?
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Crétin? Insane? I'll give debating with you a miss .
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 52 seconds ago
Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.
Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
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Broad is a complete hypocrite - it’s ’spirit of the game’ when it suits him.
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Yeah, he is. He’d have made the same decision as Cummins. Plenty wouldn’t though.
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
Jim Maxwell, the legendary Australian commentator who is working for Test Match Special, was one of the few voices that believed Australia were in the wrong.
“That leaves a sour taste,” Maxwell said. “They should have withdrawn the appeal.”
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..all because the laws of the game allow it to happen, but it is "frowned upon"
Either change the laws so it can't happen, or accept that its part of the game and that batsmen can and will be stumped if they just casually walk away at any point without knowing or checking if the ball is dead or not
It really is pretty simple like
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Simple to most of us……
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But almost never are they stumped doing the same thing. Odd that.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 21 minutes ago
Genuine question: how come it seems to be within the spirit of the game to spend an entire afternoon aiming for the batsmen instead of the wicket?
Was it always that way (even before the days of helmets and the like) or has the game moved on from then?
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Google 'Bodyline'.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
Jim Maxwell, the legendary Australian commentator who is working for Test Match Special, was one of the few voices that believed Australia were in the wrong.
“That leaves a sour taste,” Maxwell said. “They should have withdrawn the appeal.”
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..all because the laws of the game allow it to happen, but it is "frowned upon"
Either change the laws so it can't happen, or accept that its part of the game and that batsmen can and will be stumped if they just casually walk away at any point without knowing or checking if the ball is dead or not
It really is pretty simple like
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Simple to most of us……
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But almost never are they stumped doing the same thing. Odd that.
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Which is why when it happens, folk get their knickers in a twist
The problem here is lazy laws, and way too much "gentleman's agreement" pi$h
If an Aussie batsman is hit by a bouncer in the next Test and is writhing in agony outside his crease, let's hope they have the gumption to stump him.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
Jim Maxwell, the legendary Australian commentator who is working for Test Match Special, was one of the few voices that believed Australia were in the wrong.
“That leaves a sour taste,” Maxwell said. “They should have withdrawn the appeal.”
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..all because the laws of the game allow it to happen, but it is "frowned upon"
Either change the laws so it can't happen, or accept that its part of the game and that batsmen can and will be stumped if they just casually walk away at any point without knowing or checking if the ball is dead or not
It really is pretty simple like
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Simple to most of us……
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But almost never are they stumped doing the same thing. Odd that.
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Well there’s two possible reasons for that isn’t there? Either their batsman aren’t as stupid as Bairstow and don’t amble out of the crease as soon as the wicketkeeper catches the ball OR a they do and we aren’t stumping them either out of kindness or because we’re not thinking quickly enough.
Either way - it’s costing us. So we can sit here and arrogantly adopt the morale high ground and continue to lose or do something about it. Personally I think our batsman need to be switched on and aware of the laws of the game. Not that I think any of what I’m saying is going in to your thick head…..
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 52 seconds ago
Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.
Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
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Broad is a complete hypocrite - it’s ’spirit of the game’ when it suits him.
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Yeah, he is. He’d have made the same decision as Cummins. Plenty wouldn’t though.
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Like who? Cos I don’t believe Ben Stokes today at all when he said that
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 52 seconds ago
Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.
Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
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Broad is a complete hypocrite - it’s ’spirit of the game’ when it suits him.
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Yeah, he is. He’d have made the same decision as Cummins. Plenty wouldn’t though.
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Like who? Cos I don’t believe Ben Stokes today at all when he said that
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well if you’re not going to believe someone who specifically commented on it then you’re clearly not going to believe anyone I suggest!
The one that’s doing the rounds on socials atm seems to be when Doni recalled Bell after they ran him out when he believed he’d hit a 4. Bell was totally at fault and was out by the laws but Doni recognised it for what it was.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 15 minutes ago
If an Aussie batsman is hit by a bouncer in the next Test and is writhing in agony outside his crease, let's hope they have the gumption to stump him.
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This
It would be interesting to see the reaction, I don't think we're far off this happening as there is very little sportsmanship left in any sport, it's win at all costs.
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posted on 2/7/23
Genuine question: how come it seems to be within the spirit of the game to spend an entire afternoon aiming for the batsmen instead of the wicket?
Was it always that way (even before the days of helmets and the like) or has the game moved on from then?
posted on 2/7/23
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
There is no law against going through a door and letting it swing back into an old ladies face. But we don't do it.
Life is stuffed full of unwritten laws, but we obey them to make lift better for all.
Nobody wants to play a sport where you have to study all the laws of the game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What on earth are you smoking??? 😂😂😂
Since when has opening doors for people been an international sport?? 😂
I think you’re getting completely mixed up here between morality as a human being and playing a game of sport within a set of rules
And your sentence about nobody wanting a sport where you have to study the rules is literally insane. The laws of the game are an intrinsic part of playing it - you learn them as you develop from being a kid. If you don’t like the number of laws in a game or how they are applied you pick a different sport. You HAVE to know the rules to play any kind of sport. That means studying them yes
I’m beginning to think you don’t actually watch cricket that much…..
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I'm beginning to think you don't understand an allusion of how 'sporting behaviour ' enters everyday life.
What I genuinely am surprised about is that you and others don't understand about sporting behaviour, it's win at all cost. Is there a change when you go from amateur to professional, schoolboy to amateur?
posted on 2/7/23
Literally insane. As luck would have it I'm in hospital. I'll have a conversation as to whether post is 'literally insane '.
posted on 2/7/23
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 3 minutes ago
weird arguments trying to make this just a cricket thing - often accompanies by linking cricket with that old favourite, "english arrogance" - as if we've never seen a debate in football about one team kicking the ball out for an injury and then not getting it back, or a player calling a foul on himself in snooker, or a tennis player taking a lengthy toilet break when they are struggling in a match etc.
these grey areas exist in all sports, and there is constant debate by fans of all sports, from all countries, about this kind of stuff.
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Don't shout at me again, but there is an element of English arrogance in most sports. "We don't do that kind of stuff" any time a foreign player or team do something a bit out of the norm. Then the hypocrisy to defend the same thing when an English player or team does do it. Maybe you guys don't know that you do it so welcome us pointing it out. More likely shouting at me will be the response.
posted on 2/7/23
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 23 seconds ago
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Don't shout at me again, but there is an element of English arrogance in most sports. "We don't do that kind of stuff" any time a foreign player or team do something a bit out of the norm. Then the hypocrisy to defend the same thing when an English player or team does do it. Maybe you guys don't know that you do it so welcome us pointing it out. More likely shouting at me will be the response.
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you're too boring to shout out, just go away.
posted on 2/7/23
Jim Maxwell, the legendary Australian commentator who is working for Test Match Special, was one of the few voices that believed Australia were in the wrong.
“That leaves a sour taste,” Maxwell said. “They should have withdrawn the appeal.”
posted on 2/7/23
Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.
Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
posted on 2/7/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
There is no law against going through a door and letting it swing back into an old ladies face. But we don't do it.
Life is stuffed full of unwritten laws, but we obey them to make lift better for all.
Nobody wants to play a sport where you have to study all the laws of the game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What on earth are you smoking??? 😂😂😂
Since when has opening doors for people been an international sport?? 😂
I think you’re getting completely mixed up here between morality as a human being and playing a game of sport within a set of rules
And your sentence about nobody wanting a sport where you have to study the rules is literally insane. The laws of the game are an intrinsic part of playing it - you learn them as you develop from being a kid. If you don’t like the number of laws in a game or how they are applied you pick a different sport. You HAVE to know the rules to play any kind of sport. That means studying them yes
I’m beginning to think you don’t actually watch cricket that much…..
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I'm beginning to think you don't understand an allusion of how 'sporting behaviour ' enters everyday life.
What I genuinely am surprised about is that you and others don't understand about sporting behaviour, it's win at all cost. Is there a change when you go from amateur to professional, schoolboy to amateur?
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It’s win WITHIN THE LAWS of the game you cretin. Can I ask you a question - does the fact that the cricket commentators I’ve mentioned, who have decades of international cricketing experience between them, not give you a hint that you might be wrong here?
posted on 2/7/23
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 23 seconds ago
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Don't shout at me again, but there is an element of English arrogance in most sports. "We don't do that kind of stuff" any time a foreign player or team do something a bit out of the norm. Then the hypocrisy to defend the same thing when an English player or team does do it. Maybe you guys don't know that you do it so welcome us pointing it out. More likely shouting at me will be the response.
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you're too boring to shout out, just go away.
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Is what I am saying untrue or you just don't want to hear it?
posted on 2/7/23
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 52 seconds ago
Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.
Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
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Broad is a complete hypocrite - it’s ’spirit of the game’ when it suits him.
posted on 2/7/23
It wasn't like Bairstow immediately left his crease, he paused before he walked.. The keeper, though, had thrown the ball as soon as it was in his glove. There have been situations when batsmen not on strike have been run out for backing up too far. On some of those occasions the fielding side asked for the batsman to be recalled. They are both situations that are within the laws but they are deemed not to be in the spirit of the game.
posted on 2/7/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
Jim Maxwell, the legendary Australian commentator who is working for Test Match Special, was one of the few voices that believed Australia were in the wrong.
“That leaves a sour taste,” Maxwell said. “They should have withdrawn the appeal.”
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Great you’ve found one commentator. Well done. There are many many others who think Bairstow was totally naive and it’s perfectly fine
posted on 2/7/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
Jim Maxwell, the legendary Australian commentator who is working for Test Match Special, was one of the few voices that believed Australia were in the wrong.
“That leaves a sour taste,” Maxwell said. “They should have withdrawn the appeal.”
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..all because the laws of the game allow it to happen, but it is "frowned upon"
Either change the laws so it can't happen, or accept that its part of the game and that batsmen can and will be stumped if they just casually walk away at any point without knowing or checking if the ball is dead or not
It really is pretty simple like
posted on 2/7/23
comment by canspur (U17707)
posted 30 seconds ago
It wasn't like Bairstow immediately left his crease, he paused before he walked.. The keeper, though, had thrown the ball as soon as it was in his glove. There have been situations when batsmen not on strike have been run out for backing up too far. On some of those occasions the fielding side asked for the batsman to be recalled. They are both situations that are within the laws but they are deemed not to be in the spirit of the game.
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As Cummings said, Bairstow was routinely walking out of his crease before over was called. It’s stupid and naive. Carey was smart - Bairstow wasn’t. There is no gentlemen’s agreement, there are a set of laws and you play to them. Exactly the same as when he forgot to ground his bat when he got run out - the guy is an absolute dope and responsible in part for todays loss
posted on 2/7/23
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
Jim Maxwell, the legendary Australian commentator who is working for Test Match Special, was one of the few voices that believed Australia were in the wrong.
“That leaves a sour taste,” Maxwell said. “They should have withdrawn the appeal.”
----------------------------------------------------------------------
..all because the laws of the game allow it to happen, but it is "frowned upon"
Either change the laws so it can't happen, or accept that its part of the game and that batsmen can and will be stumped if they just casually walk away at any point without knowing or checking if the ball is dead or not
It really is pretty simple like
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Simple to most of us……
posted on 2/7/23
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
There is no law against going through a door and letting it swing back into an old ladies face. But we don't do it.
Life is stuffed full of unwritten laws, but we obey them to make lift better for all.
Nobody wants to play a sport where you have to study all the laws of the game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What on earth are you smoking??? 😂😂😂
Since when has opening doors for people been an international sport?? 😂
I think you’re getting completely mixed up here between morality as a human being and playing a game of sport within a set of rules
And your sentence about nobody wanting a sport where you have to study the rules is literally insane. The laws of the game are an intrinsic part of playing it - you learn them as you develop from being a kid. If you don’t like the number of laws in a game or how they are applied you pick a different sport. You HAVE to know the rules to play any kind of sport. That means studying them yes
I’m beginning to think you don’t actually watch cricket that much…..
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I'm beginning to think you don't understand an allusion of how 'sporting behaviour ' enters everyday life.
What I genuinely am surprised about is that you and others don't understand about sporting behaviour, it's win at all cost. Is there a change when you go from amateur to professional, schoolboy to amateur?
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It’s win WITHIN THE LAWS of the game you cretin. Can I ask you a question - does the fact that the cricket commentators I’ve mentioned, who have decades of international cricketing experience between them, not give you a hint that you might be wrong here?
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Crétin? Insane? I'll give debating with you a miss .
posted on 2/7/23
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 52 seconds ago
Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.
Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
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Broad is a complete hypocrite - it’s ’spirit of the game’ when it suits him.
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Yeah, he is. He’d have made the same decision as Cummins. Plenty wouldn’t though.
posted on 2/7/23
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
Jim Maxwell, the legendary Australian commentator who is working for Test Match Special, was one of the few voices that believed Australia were in the wrong.
“That leaves a sour taste,” Maxwell said. “They should have withdrawn the appeal.”
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..all because the laws of the game allow it to happen, but it is "frowned upon"
Either change the laws so it can't happen, or accept that its part of the game and that batsmen can and will be stumped if they just casually walk away at any point without knowing or checking if the ball is dead or not
It really is pretty simple like
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Simple to most of us……
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But almost never are they stumped doing the same thing. Odd that.
posted on 2/7/23
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 21 minutes ago
Genuine question: how come it seems to be within the spirit of the game to spend an entire afternoon aiming for the batsmen instead of the wicket?
Was it always that way (even before the days of helmets and the like) or has the game moved on from then?
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Google 'Bodyline'.
posted on 2/7/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
Jim Maxwell, the legendary Australian commentator who is working for Test Match Special, was one of the few voices that believed Australia were in the wrong.
“That leaves a sour taste,” Maxwell said. “They should have withdrawn the appeal.”
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..all because the laws of the game allow it to happen, but it is "frowned upon"
Either change the laws so it can't happen, or accept that its part of the game and that batsmen can and will be stumped if they just casually walk away at any point without knowing or checking if the ball is dead or not
It really is pretty simple like
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Simple to most of us……
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But almost never are they stumped doing the same thing. Odd that.
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Which is why when it happens, folk get their knickers in a twist
The problem here is lazy laws, and way too much "gentleman's agreement" pi$h
posted on 2/7/23
If an Aussie batsman is hit by a bouncer in the next Test and is writhing in agony outside his crease, let's hope they have the gumption to stump him.
posted on 2/7/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
Jim Maxwell, the legendary Australian commentator who is working for Test Match Special, was one of the few voices that believed Australia were in the wrong.
“That leaves a sour taste,” Maxwell said. “They should have withdrawn the appeal.”
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..all because the laws of the game allow it to happen, but it is "frowned upon"
Either change the laws so it can't happen, or accept that its part of the game and that batsmen can and will be stumped if they just casually walk away at any point without knowing or checking if the ball is dead or not
It really is pretty simple like
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Simple to most of us……
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But almost never are they stumped doing the same thing. Odd that.
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Well there’s two possible reasons for that isn’t there? Either their batsman aren’t as stupid as Bairstow and don’t amble out of the crease as soon as the wicketkeeper catches the ball OR a they do and we aren’t stumping them either out of kindness or because we’re not thinking quickly enough.
Either way - it’s costing us. So we can sit here and arrogantly adopt the morale high ground and continue to lose or do something about it. Personally I think our batsman need to be switched on and aware of the laws of the game. Not that I think any of what I’m saying is going in to your thick head…..
posted on 2/7/23
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 52 seconds ago
Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.
Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
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Broad is a complete hypocrite - it’s ’spirit of the game’ when it suits him.
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Yeah, he is. He’d have made the same decision as Cummins. Plenty wouldn’t though.
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Like who? Cos I don’t believe Ben Stokes today at all when he said that
posted on 2/7/23
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 52 seconds ago
Equating football scenarios to sporting behaviour is a waste of time. Football players and fans generally couldn’t give the tiniest sh!t whether something is sporting or not, as long as it goes for their team. You see countless examples every single game.
Cricket has traditionally been different. The spirit of the game does mean something to all nations. The Aussies lost their sh!t when Broad wouldn’t walk, so its not just us. Bairstow was absolutely at fault, he was dopey, naive, switched off etc etc But there are few captains in international cricket that would look to take a wicket for that. Unfortunately for him, he was up against one of those today.
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Broad is a complete hypocrite - it’s ’spirit of the game’ when it suits him.
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Yeah, he is. He’d have made the same decision as Cummins. Plenty wouldn’t though.
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Like who? Cos I don’t believe Ben Stokes today at all when he said that
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well if you’re not going to believe someone who specifically commented on it then you’re clearly not going to believe anyone I suggest!
The one that’s doing the rounds on socials atm seems to be when Doni recalled Bell after they ran him out when he believed he’d hit a 4. Bell was totally at fault and was out by the laws but Doni recognised it for what it was.
posted on 2/7/23
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 15 minutes ago
If an Aussie batsman is hit by a bouncer in the next Test and is writhing in agony outside his crease, let's hope they have the gumption to stump him.
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This
It would be interesting to see the reaction, I don't think we're far off this happening as there is very little sportsmanship left in any sport, it's win at all costs.
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