comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 23 seconds ago
Part of the confusion is that it used to be tapping up if you contacted the player before the club but it became so commonplace and actually made sense for clubs to put the feelers out before bidding, they relaxed the definition.
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I don't think they relaxed the definition at all, clubs just didn't report it as they see it as too strict and every club taps up. It's a waste of time going through negotiations if you don't think the player is interested.
Southampton reported Liverpool for it when Klopp had met VVD because they didn't want to sell and Liverpool's first bid was way off their valuation. They didn't follow through with it as Liverpool then stumped up another £25m on top, likely with the agreement that Southampton would not pursue their claim. There was absolutely no pre-contract and nor could their be, since he was already under contract and it wasn't due to expire. You've either completely made this up or somebody has given you incorrect information.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 seconds ago
So re you saying that Kane and the DOF at Bayern couldnt be friends whilst Kane was at Spurs for eg?
If they met for dinner there it would be against the law for them to talk about certain subjects? of course not there is nothing illegal about having a conversation.
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I'm saying it's literally in the rule book and as such you're wrong. It's not up for debate. It's right there in black and white
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no you dont know how to legally interpret that law.
You dont know what "approach" means in the legal sense of this rule.
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Oh do shut up, it's in the rules end of.
Is it enforced often? No, not really, but that doesn't alter the fact.
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believe what you want to believe.
I am literally mates with an agent who owns his own agency.
Sorry I meant the uninformed person made it up, not you.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 seconds ago
So re you saying that Kane and the DOF at Bayern couldnt be friends whilst Kane was at Spurs for eg?
If they met for dinner there it would be against the law for them to talk about certain subjects? of course not there is nothing illegal about having a conversation.
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I'm saying it's literally in the rule book and as such you're wrong. It's not up for debate. It's right there in black and white
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no you dont know how to legally interpret that law.
You dont know what "approach" means in the legal sense of this rule.
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Oh do shut up, it's in the rules end of.
Is it enforced often? No, not really, but that doesn't alter the fact.
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believe what you want to believe.
I am literally mates with an agent who owns his own agency.
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Oh well that's that then. This guy
Article 22 of the FIFA Players’ Agents Regulations prohibits a player’s agent from approaching any player who is under contract to a club with the aim of persuading him to terminate his contract prematurely or to violate any obligations stipulated in the employment contract. It shall be presumed, unless established to the contrary, that any players’ agent involved in a contractual breach committed by the player without just cause has induced such breach of contract.
My mate is an agent so I know. That old chestnut. FFS
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Oh well that's that then. This guy
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suppose it is , one person has seen and spoke about it IRL. one person interprets his own belief of the rule.
thats what we have here.
Are you saying thats its illegal for footballer or their reps to meet up with other reps? they cant be friends? they cant go for dinner?
Laws need to be enforceable and there is no way to enforce the law the way you describe.
I have told you what tapping up actually is.
Like I said up to you if you wanna believe your own interpretation of it.
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 45 seconds ago
My mate is an agent so I know. That old chestnut. FFS
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Cesare Marchetti, worked with him at Citi Bank, he started up his own agency Deadline Day Sports.
Feel free to check any of it out.
Are you saying thats its illegal for footballer or their reps to meet up with other reps? they cant be friends? they cant go for dinner?
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Sigh, no of course I'm not saying that. Obviously.
But you're not allowed to approach them in a business sense, such as about a transfer, as the Premier League and FIFA rules clearly stipulate.
Much like I can chat to anyone I want but if I leave my agency to work for another and start approaching my contacts for business before the end of gardening leave I'm going to get sued. I'd lose too.
You're just wrong and no amount of silly narratives change that really quite simple fact.
Whether it's enforced regularly or not is utterly moot.
comment by Buzzyspur (U10177)
posted 2 minutes ago
Article 22 of the FIFA Players’ Agents Regulations prohibits a player’s agent from approaching any player who is under contract to a club with the aim of persuading him to terminate his contract prematurely or to violate any obligations stipulated in the employment contract. It shall be presumed, unless established to the contrary, that any players’ agent involved in a contractual breach committed by the player without just cause has induced such breach of contract.
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exactly there is no rule that says they cant meet up and provisionally agree a deal should the teams come to an agreement.
It is illegal to have a player "agree" a deal outwith the 6 months bosman time period without getting permission from the owners of the contract.
Telling an agent what sort of wage you would like is not agreeing a deal.
Laws need to be enforceable and there is no way to enforce the law the way you describe.
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Again, completely untrue.
Arsenal were charged with it. Liverpool reported for it and I could list more.
Probably best to just hold your hands up on this one.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 52 seconds ago
Are you saying thats its illegal for footballer or their reps to meet up with other reps? they cant be friends? they cant go for dinner?
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Sigh, no of course I'm not saying that. Obviously.
But you're not allowed to approach them in a business sense, such as about a transfer, as the Premier League and FIFA rules clearly stipulate.
Much like I can chat to anyone I want but if I leave my agency to work for another and start approaching my contacts for business before the end of gardening leave I'm going to get sued. I'd lose too.
You're just wrong and no amount of silly narratives change that really quite simple fact.
Whether it's enforced regularly or not is utterly moot.
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so if they having dinner and he was asked what sort of wages would you like to earn if you were under contract at Bayern and he says prob about 300k there or there abouts. You think this is illegal and tapping up? cos this is what most people think it, but its not.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 28 seconds ago
Laws need to be enforceable and there is no way to enforce the law the way you describe.
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Again, completely untrue.
Arsenal were charged with it. Liverpool reported for it and I could list more.
Probably best to just hold your hands up on this one.
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charged with what ? you say they were charged but no details what they were charged with or for so proves nothing.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Laws need to be enforceable and there is no way to enforce the law the way you describe.
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Again, completely untrue.
Arsenal were charged with it. Liverpool reported for it and I could list more.
Probably best to just hold your hands up on this one.
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Liverpol were charged over the VVD deal which was dropped .....
Chelsea were actually found guilty of it with the Kakuta deal .. Im sure he actually agreed a deal before he could, actually signed off on it. that is taping up.
Liverpool were charged with tapping up, fined £100k and banned for two years from signing youth players.
Don't you get embarrassed?
"The Premier League have opted against taking further action against Liverpool for allegedly tapping up Southampton centre-back Virgil van Dijk. "
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 18 seconds ago
I think clubs approach agents rather than the player to avoid directly tapping the player up.
Micky was quoted as saying there was something in his email when asked about us a while back and Ange pretty much admitted we approached the player otherwise we wouldn't have made a bid.
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DOF, scouts, approach agents and vice versa, Agents will send out the feelers to all their contacts at clubs to see what interest is out there. Sometimes clubs will bypass the agent and go straight to the player. Fergie was known to personally call players that he could rather than speak to the agent.
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Fergie met Chris Smalling at The Lane after we played them in a midweek game. A few weeks later he signed for Utd.
The whole tapping up debate is mountain made out of a molehill.
This conversation made me ask Ai - this was the answer: Tapping up is a term used in football to describe the practice of a club or its representatives contacting a player who is under contract with another club, without the consent of the player's current club. Tapping up is prohibited by the rules of FIFA and the Premier League.
The specific rules relating to tapping up vary from league to league, but they generally prohibit clubs from:
Contacting a player who is under contract with another club, without the consent of the player's current club.
Offering a player a contract while they are still under contract with another club.
Paying a player's agent a fee to facilitate a transfer, without the consent of the player's current club.
If a club is found to have violated the rules on tapping up, they may be punished by the league, which could include fines, points deductions, or even expulsion from the league.
In practice, it can be difficult to prove that tapping up has occurred. This is because it is often done behind the scenes, and there is often no direct evidence. However, if there is enough circumstantial evidence to suggest that tapping up has occurred, the league may still take action.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 45 seconds ago
My mate is an agent so I know. That old chestnut. FFS
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Cesare Marchetti, worked with him at Citi Bank, he started up his own agency Deadline Day Sports.
Feel free to check any of it out.
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Not that this has any relevance whatsoever as the wording is there in blank and white but 'll ask my wife just for the fun of it, she's senior Vice President at Citi Bank. I'll then ask her to explain what tapping up is and no doubt without knowing anything about football she'll be able to tell me that it's meeting the player without the consent of the club.
Pre-contracts are nothing whatsoever to do with tapping up. That wouldn't be tapping up, it would be illegal, going against the terms of your current contract and illegally signing one when your current contract forbids it.
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 18 seconds ago
I think clubs approach agents rather than the player to avoid directly tapping the player up.
Micky was quoted as saying there was something in his email when asked about us a while back and Ange pretty much admitted we approached the player otherwise we wouldn't have made a bid.
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DOF, scouts, approach agents and vice versa, Agents will send out the feelers to all their contacts at clubs to see what interest is out there. Sometimes clubs will bypass the agent and go straight to the player. Fergie was known to personally call players that he could rather than speak to the agent.
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Fergie met Chris Smalling at The Lane after we played them in a midweek game. A few weeks later he signed for Utd.
The whole tapping up debate is mountain made out of a molehill.
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is your wife a football agent? na didnt think so, ask her all ye want.
See you just showing your niavety here, pre contracts are .... signing a pre contract 1 year before your deal ends is 100% tapping up..... tapping up is ILLEGAL !!!
Tapping will always happen. Deal with it.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 18 seconds ago
I think clubs approach agents rather than the player to avoid directly tapping the player up.
Micky was quoted as saying there was something in his email when asked about us a while back and Ange pretty much admitted we approached the player otherwise we wouldn't have made a bid.
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DOF, scouts, approach agents and vice versa, Agents will send out the feelers to all their contacts at clubs to see what interest is out there. Sometimes clubs will bypass the agent and go straight to the player. Fergie was known to personally call players that he could rather than speak to the agent.
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Fergie met Chris Smalling at The Lane after we played them in a midweek game. A few weeks later he signed for Utd.
The whole tapping up debate is mountain made out of a molehill.
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is your wife a football agent? na didnt think so, ask her all ye want.
See you just showing your niavety here, pre contracts are .... signing a pre contract 1 year before your deal ends is 100% tapping up..... tapping up is ILLEGAL !!!
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Firstly I don't give a crap about your story about a football agent. I also care about what the actual words say from the football authorities. Even if your story was true, agents don't care about tapping up, it's normally not agents who get into trouble, it's the buying club.
However I don't think it is true since you've completely invented what tapping up means, which leads me to believe you'd invent anything to back this up.
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 18 seconds ago
I think clubs approach agents rather than the player to avoid directly tapping the player up.
Micky was quoted as saying there was something in his email when asked about us a while back and Ange pretty much admitted we approached the player otherwise we wouldn't have made a bid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
DOF, scouts, approach agents and vice versa, Agents will send out the feelers to all their contacts at clubs to see what interest is out there. Sometimes clubs will bypass the agent and go straight to the player. Fergie was known to personally call players that he could rather than speak to the agent.
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Fergie met Chris Smalling at The Lane after we played them in a midweek game. A few weeks later he signed for Utd.
The whole tapping up debate is mountain made out of a molehill.
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is your wife a football agent? na didnt think so, ask her all ye want.
See you just showing your niavety here, pre contracts are .... signing a pre contract 1 year before your deal ends is 100% tapping up..... tapping up is ILLEGAL !!!
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Firstly I don't give a crap about your story about a football agent. I also care about what the actual words say from the football authorities. Even if your story was true, agents don't care about tapping up, it's normally not agents who get into trouble, it's the buying club.
However I don't think it is true since you've completely invented what tapping up means, which leads me to believe you'd invent anything to back this up.
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they might care / they might not care, they still know what is illegal and what isnt.
Liie I said I have given you the tools you need to find out if you so wish, so throw about your accusations all you want. You dont care however, its easier to just type nonsense on here than actually back up stuff.
The fact Liverpool have been charged previously for tapping up, as have various other clubs and players, shows that, once again, Whodunnit is talking out of his ass.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
The fact Liverpool have been charged previously for tapping up, as have various other clubs and players, shows that, once again, Whodunnit is talking out of his ass.
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how exactly?? did I say it doesnt exist?
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posted on 15/8/23
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 23 seconds ago
Part of the confusion is that it used to be tapping up if you contacted the player before the club but it became so commonplace and actually made sense for clubs to put the feelers out before bidding, they relaxed the definition.
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I don't think they relaxed the definition at all, clubs just didn't report it as they see it as too strict and every club taps up. It's a waste of time going through negotiations if you don't think the player is interested.
Southampton reported Liverpool for it when Klopp had met VVD because they didn't want to sell and Liverpool's first bid was way off their valuation. They didn't follow through with it as Liverpool then stumped up another £25m on top, likely with the agreement that Southampton would not pursue their claim. There was absolutely no pre-contract and nor could their be, since he was already under contract and it wasn't due to expire. You've either completely made this up or somebody has given you incorrect information.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 seconds ago
So re you saying that Kane and the DOF at Bayern couldnt be friends whilst Kane was at Spurs for eg?
If they met for dinner there it would be against the law for them to talk about certain subjects? of course not there is nothing illegal about having a conversation.
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I'm saying it's literally in the rule book and as such you're wrong. It's not up for debate. It's right there in black and white
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no you dont know how to legally interpret that law.
You dont know what "approach" means in the legal sense of this rule.
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Oh do shut up, it's in the rules end of.
Is it enforced often? No, not really, but that doesn't alter the fact.
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believe what you want to believe.
I am literally mates with an agent who owns his own agency.
posted on 15/8/23
Sorry I meant the uninformed person made it up, not you.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 seconds ago
So re you saying that Kane and the DOF at Bayern couldnt be friends whilst Kane was at Spurs for eg?
If they met for dinner there it would be against the law for them to talk about certain subjects? of course not there is nothing illegal about having a conversation.
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I'm saying it's literally in the rule book and as such you're wrong. It's not up for debate. It's right there in black and white
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no you dont know how to legally interpret that law.
You dont know what "approach" means in the legal sense of this rule.
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Oh do shut up, it's in the rules end of.
Is it enforced often? No, not really, but that doesn't alter the fact.
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believe what you want to believe.
I am literally mates with an agent who owns his own agency.
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Oh well that's that then. This guy
posted on 15/8/23
Article 22 of the FIFA Players’ Agents Regulations prohibits a player’s agent from approaching any player who is under contract to a club with the aim of persuading him to terminate his contract prematurely or to violate any obligations stipulated in the employment contract. It shall be presumed, unless established to the contrary, that any players’ agent involved in a contractual breach committed by the player without just cause has induced such breach of contract.
posted on 15/8/23
My mate is an agent so I know. That old chestnut. FFS
posted on 15/8/23
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Oh well that's that then. This guy
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suppose it is , one person has seen and spoke about it IRL. one person interprets his own belief of the rule.
thats what we have here.
Are you saying thats its illegal for footballer or their reps to meet up with other reps? they cant be friends? they cant go for dinner?
Laws need to be enforceable and there is no way to enforce the law the way you describe.
I have told you what tapping up actually is.
Like I said up to you if you wanna believe your own interpretation of it.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 45 seconds ago
My mate is an agent so I know. That old chestnut. FFS
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cesare Marchetti, worked with him at Citi Bank, he started up his own agency Deadline Day Sports.
Feel free to check any of it out.
posted on 15/8/23
Are you saying thats its illegal for footballer or their reps to meet up with other reps? they cant be friends? they cant go for dinner?
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Sigh, no of course I'm not saying that. Obviously.
But you're not allowed to approach them in a business sense, such as about a transfer, as the Premier League and FIFA rules clearly stipulate.
Much like I can chat to anyone I want but if I leave my agency to work for another and start approaching my contacts for business before the end of gardening leave I'm going to get sued. I'd lose too.
You're just wrong and no amount of silly narratives change that really quite simple fact.
Whether it's enforced regularly or not is utterly moot.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Buzzyspur (U10177)
posted 2 minutes ago
Article 22 of the FIFA Players’ Agents Regulations prohibits a player’s agent from approaching any player who is under contract to a club with the aim of persuading him to terminate his contract prematurely or to violate any obligations stipulated in the employment contract. It shall be presumed, unless established to the contrary, that any players’ agent involved in a contractual breach committed by the player without just cause has induced such breach of contract.
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exactly there is no rule that says they cant meet up and provisionally agree a deal should the teams come to an agreement.
It is illegal to have a player "agree" a deal outwith the 6 months bosman time period without getting permission from the owners of the contract.
Telling an agent what sort of wage you would like is not agreeing a deal.
posted on 15/8/23
Laws need to be enforceable and there is no way to enforce the law the way you describe.
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Again, completely untrue.
Arsenal were charged with it. Liverpool reported for it and I could list more.
Probably best to just hold your hands up on this one.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 52 seconds ago
Are you saying thats its illegal for footballer or their reps to meet up with other reps? they cant be friends? they cant go for dinner?
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Sigh, no of course I'm not saying that. Obviously.
But you're not allowed to approach them in a business sense, such as about a transfer, as the Premier League and FIFA rules clearly stipulate.
Much like I can chat to anyone I want but if I leave my agency to work for another and start approaching my contacts for business before the end of gardening leave I'm going to get sued. I'd lose too.
You're just wrong and no amount of silly narratives change that really quite simple fact.
Whether it's enforced regularly or not is utterly moot.
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so if they having dinner and he was asked what sort of wages would you like to earn if you were under contract at Bayern and he says prob about 300k there or there abouts. You think this is illegal and tapping up? cos this is what most people think it, but its not.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 28 seconds ago
Laws need to be enforceable and there is no way to enforce the law the way you describe.
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Again, completely untrue.
Arsenal were charged with it. Liverpool reported for it and I could list more.
Probably best to just hold your hands up on this one.
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charged with what ? you say they were charged but no details what they were charged with or for so proves nothing.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Laws need to be enforceable and there is no way to enforce the law the way you describe.
-----
Again, completely untrue.
Arsenal were charged with it. Liverpool reported for it and I could list more.
Probably best to just hold your hands up on this one.
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Liverpol were charged over the VVD deal which was dropped .....
Chelsea were actually found guilty of it with the Kakuta deal .. Im sure he actually agreed a deal before he could, actually signed off on it. that is taping up.
posted on 15/8/23
Liverpool were charged with tapping up, fined £100k and banned for two years from signing youth players.
Don't you get embarrassed?
posted on 15/8/23
"The Premier League have opted against taking further action against Liverpool for allegedly tapping up Southampton centre-back Virgil van Dijk. "
posted on 15/8/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 18 seconds ago
I think clubs approach agents rather than the player to avoid directly tapping the player up.
Micky was quoted as saying there was something in his email when asked about us a while back and Ange pretty much admitted we approached the player otherwise we wouldn't have made a bid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
DOF, scouts, approach agents and vice versa, Agents will send out the feelers to all their contacts at clubs to see what interest is out there. Sometimes clubs will bypass the agent and go straight to the player. Fergie was known to personally call players that he could rather than speak to the agent.
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Fergie met Chris Smalling at The Lane after we played them in a midweek game. A few weeks later he signed for Utd.
The whole tapping up debate is mountain made out of a molehill.
posted on 15/8/23
This conversation made me ask Ai - this was the answer: Tapping up is a term used in football to describe the practice of a club or its representatives contacting a player who is under contract with another club, without the consent of the player's current club. Tapping up is prohibited by the rules of FIFA and the Premier League.
The specific rules relating to tapping up vary from league to league, but they generally prohibit clubs from:
Contacting a player who is under contract with another club, without the consent of the player's current club.
Offering a player a contract while they are still under contract with another club.
Paying a player's agent a fee to facilitate a transfer, without the consent of the player's current club.
If a club is found to have violated the rules on tapping up, they may be punished by the league, which could include fines, points deductions, or even expulsion from the league.
In practice, it can be difficult to prove that tapping up has occurred. This is because it is often done behind the scenes, and there is often no direct evidence. However, if there is enough circumstantial evidence to suggest that tapping up has occurred, the league may still take action.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 45 seconds ago
My mate is an agent so I know. That old chestnut. FFS
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cesare Marchetti, worked with him at Citi Bank, he started up his own agency Deadline Day Sports.
Feel free to check any of it out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not that this has any relevance whatsoever as the wording is there in blank and white but 'll ask my wife just for the fun of it, she's senior Vice President at Citi Bank. I'll then ask her to explain what tapping up is and no doubt without knowing anything about football she'll be able to tell me that it's meeting the player without the consent of the club.
Pre-contracts are nothing whatsoever to do with tapping up. That wouldn't be tapping up, it would be illegal, going against the terms of your current contract and illegally signing one when your current contract forbids it.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 18 seconds ago
I think clubs approach agents rather than the player to avoid directly tapping the player up.
Micky was quoted as saying there was something in his email when asked about us a while back and Ange pretty much admitted we approached the player otherwise we wouldn't have made a bid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
DOF, scouts, approach agents and vice versa, Agents will send out the feelers to all their contacts at clubs to see what interest is out there. Sometimes clubs will bypass the agent and go straight to the player. Fergie was known to personally call players that he could rather than speak to the agent.
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Fergie met Chris Smalling at The Lane after we played them in a midweek game. A few weeks later he signed for Utd.
The whole tapping up debate is mountain made out of a molehill.
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is your wife a football agent? na didnt think so, ask her all ye want.
See you just showing your niavety here, pre contracts are .... signing a pre contract 1 year before your deal ends is 100% tapping up..... tapping up is ILLEGAL !!!
posted on 15/8/23
Tapping will always happen. Deal with it.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 18 seconds ago
I think clubs approach agents rather than the player to avoid directly tapping the player up.
Micky was quoted as saying there was something in his email when asked about us a while back and Ange pretty much admitted we approached the player otherwise we wouldn't have made a bid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
DOF, scouts, approach agents and vice versa, Agents will send out the feelers to all their contacts at clubs to see what interest is out there. Sometimes clubs will bypass the agent and go straight to the player. Fergie was known to personally call players that he could rather than speak to the agent.
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Fergie met Chris Smalling at The Lane after we played them in a midweek game. A few weeks later he signed for Utd.
The whole tapping up debate is mountain made out of a molehill.
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is your wife a football agent? na didnt think so, ask her all ye want.
See you just showing your niavety here, pre contracts are .... signing a pre contract 1 year before your deal ends is 100% tapping up..... tapping up is ILLEGAL !!!
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Firstly I don't give a crap about your story about a football agent. I also care about what the actual words say from the football authorities. Even if your story was true, agents don't care about tapping up, it's normally not agents who get into trouble, it's the buying club.
However I don't think it is true since you've completely invented what tapping up means, which leads me to believe you'd invent anything to back this up.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 18 seconds ago
I think clubs approach agents rather than the player to avoid directly tapping the player up.
Micky was quoted as saying there was something in his email when asked about us a while back and Ange pretty much admitted we approached the player otherwise we wouldn't have made a bid.
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DOF, scouts, approach agents and vice versa, Agents will send out the feelers to all their contacts at clubs to see what interest is out there. Sometimes clubs will bypass the agent and go straight to the player. Fergie was known to personally call players that he could rather than speak to the agent.
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Fergie met Chris Smalling at The Lane after we played them in a midweek game. A few weeks later he signed for Utd.
The whole tapping up debate is mountain made out of a molehill.
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is your wife a football agent? na didnt think so, ask her all ye want.
See you just showing your niavety here, pre contracts are .... signing a pre contract 1 year before your deal ends is 100% tapping up..... tapping up is ILLEGAL !!!
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Firstly I don't give a crap about your story about a football agent. I also care about what the actual words say from the football authorities. Even if your story was true, agents don't care about tapping up, it's normally not agents who get into trouble, it's the buying club.
However I don't think it is true since you've completely invented what tapping up means, which leads me to believe you'd invent anything to back this up.
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they might care / they might not care, they still know what is illegal and what isnt.
Liie I said I have given you the tools you need to find out if you so wish, so throw about your accusations all you want. You dont care however, its easier to just type nonsense on here than actually back up stuff.
posted on 15/8/23
The fact Liverpool have been charged previously for tapping up, as have various other clubs and players, shows that, once again, Whodunnit is talking out of his ass.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
The fact Liverpool have been charged previously for tapping up, as have various other clubs and players, shows that, once again, Whodunnit is talking out of his ass.
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how exactly?? did I say it doesnt exist?
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