comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
never go back
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Why not? We’ve gone back to the bottom half of the table and competing in Europe’s second teir competition and you seem fine with that.
Personally I prefer finishing 3rd/4th in the league every season and playing in the Champions League.
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We were 14th hen he was sacked. So you endorse his sacking?
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Oh Dev, please!
You sound like Sandy. I think he was only 5 points of 4th, given it was early in the season and it was a very even league at that point. You have to factor in that they're not robots. Losing that CL final killed their spirit. They all needed lifting off the floor. They brought in new players that were either injured or didn't settle. It was a tough time but then I lean more on the idea that if a manager has had 5 very, very decent years, he's afforded a blip. Look at Newcastle last season. They dropped off massively. They stuck with Howe and they're back, yet Poch had more credit in the bank than Howe ever did.
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Poch failure at Spurs, zero trophies.
Spurtle "Poch was a success, success can be measured in different forms. Failure is success in Poch world."
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Yep, and you know what? Spurtle is absolutely right. To not recognise success in a more nuanced form shows a total lack of intelligence.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Poch failure at Spurs, zero trophies.
Spurtle "Poch was a success, success can be measured in different forms. Failure is success in Poch world."
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Yep, and you know what? Spurtle is absolutely right. To not recognise success in a more nuanced form shows a total lack of intelligence.
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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 44 minutes ago
Poch failure at Spurs, zero trophies.
Spurtle "Poch was a success, success can be measured in different forms. Failure is success in Poch world."
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Failure is what we’re experiencing NOW.
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And what did Spurs win under Pochettino in five and a half seasons?
20 Tournaments entered = zero wins.
I think we have done that gig.
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What you're failing to consider here, as always, is that there have always been at least 4 better teams than us at any one time in the PL. Always. If you get to a final or close to it, you're likely to have to play those sides. The odds on winning them are poor. That's just the nature of football and the pyramid. We're not in that very top bracket. So to judge a manager on that alone, without taking into account the financial restrictions he had to face compared to those 4 or 5 teams around him, is frankly baffling, bordering on stupid.
He had far less to spend than anyone else. Just take a look at the stats below and tell me he wasn't working miracles compared to everyone else. Sure, he didn't win anything but the very fact he got us within a whisker of winning anything, let alone the CL or even the PL, is 'success'. What he inherited in 2014 and what he developed isn't talked about enough. Then you also have to factor in that he also had us in the top 3 despite the fact that we didn't play a home game for 3 years.
Here's his net spend...
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/11366241/is-mauricio-pochettino-overachieving-at-tottenham
and here's Ange's...
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/2nd-highest-net-spend-in-pl-since-postecoglou-arrived-what-should-spurs-expectations-be-/view/news/440038
I think that makes my point. You're just wrong on every possible level. Here endeth the argument.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
never go back
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Why not? We’ve gone back to the bottom half of the table and competing in Europe’s second teir competition and you seem fine with that.
Personally I prefer finishing 3rd/4th in the league every season and playing in the Champions League.
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We were 14th hen he was sacked. So you endorse his sacking?
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Oh Dev, please!
You sound like Sandy. I think he was only 5 points of 4th, given it was early in the season and it was a very even league at that point. You have to factor in that they're not robots. Losing that CL final killed their spirit. They all needed lifting off the floor. They brought in new players that were either injured or didn't settle. It was a tough time but then I lean more on the idea that if a manager has had 5 very, very decent years, he's afforded a blip. Look at Newcastle last season. They dropped off massively. They stuck with Howe and they're back, yet Poch had more credit in the bank than Howe ever did.
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All i was really pushing back from here is Sizzles simple criteria. He wants Ange sacked now because we're 13th and havent won anything (still in 1 cup though)
I didnt want Poch to go but in his last 24 PL games (last 12 in 18/19, first 12 in 19/20), we managed 25 points. We hadnt won away since the Feb. It had turned in to a bit more than a blip, there were fundamental issues.
I know he had credit in the bank BUT Sizzle is applying simple criteria, very selectively.
25 points after 24 games this season would have seen us 17th.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Poch failure at Spurs, zero trophies.
Spurtle "Poch was a success, success can be measured in different forms. Failure is success in Poch world."
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Yep, and you know what? Spurtle is absolutely right. To not recognise success in a more nuanced form shows a total lack of intelligence.
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BS. It's excuses after excuses. Horsechit.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
never go back
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There are as many examples of successes as there are failures when managers retread the same ground meaning your point holds absolutely no weight whatsoever. If he were managing the same set of players maybe, but he wouldn’t be. That whole never go back thing feels like a lazy pundits answer because ultimately it’s hollow and meaningless.
Bring him home!
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If there are as many successes as failures then my point holds as much weight as the counter argument
You are basically saying there's a 50/50 chance this could be successful.
I love Poch. Do not get me wrong. He took me to a UCL final. I will have few greater footballing memories than that weekend in madrid!
But the man has achieved next to zero in the last 6 years. There's no real evidence he should get the job on merit.
It's more nostalgia, which is compelling, but that makes it more of a 75% heart decision and 25% brain/football decision.
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50/50 is where any new incoming manager starts from. You can never be entirely sure about anyone. All I will say is that the one thing he'll be afforded more than any other manager is time, given the bond between himself and the fans. Then you factor in his ability to work with Levy. He's not going in blind and he's happy to work under a structure, whilst slightly different to the one he left, is still heavily controlled by the main man.
Then you have the make up of the squad he'd be inheriting. Fast, athletic, young. The perfect squad profile for a Poch team. It's all there for him.
The truth is that it's heart AND head. It makes sense on both levels.
I'm surprised you've fallen for the lazy trope about a lack of trophies like a lot of brainless Spurs fans. He took us closer than we've ever been to the truly top prizes and but for some bad luck in finals against very decent sides, he'd have won 2 or 3 for us. His two jobs after us were a circus and even at Chelsea, things were turning around before he was sacked. By all accounts, he didn't want to sell Gallagher and that's what contributed to the bitter feelings between himself and Boehly. For all Levy's faults, as you're very quick to support, the one thing that will never happen to us is the need to sell young talent to offset stupidity in the market. The only thing Poch is guilty of is not choosing the right owner/club before signing a contract. His abilities as a coach are still there.
This can only be the 'shiny new toy' syndrome. It's why fans don't really like signing players that used to play for us too. It's the excitement of the new. I get all that but if there's one candidate that ticks more boxes than any other, does it matter if he's been here before? Even if you put aside the emotional attachment, he's still the best profile of manager - someone with big club experience who's been there and done it and knows exactly what it takes to make it work for a club like Spurs.
The issue with the likes of Iraola or, to a lesser extent, Frank, is that they just become flavour of the month. By all accounts, Iraola's style of play isn't too dissimilar to Ange's. If he gets in Europe, that rabid intensity won't be achievable game by game. With Frank, I get the impression that he's a great manager at a certain level but I'm just not sure he has the gravitas for a big job. Outside of that, sure there are the likes of Inzaghi, who's been spoken about but these are huge, huge gambles. I'm not willing to roll the dice anymore.
Poch is the one man who's a big name, knows the club, fits the profile of the squad, understand the owner. It's the right choice on every possible level.
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It would be a lazy appointment Z z z
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
never go back
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There are as many examples of successes as there are failures when managers retread the same ground meaning your point holds absolutely no weight whatsoever. If he were managing the same set of players maybe, but he wouldn’t be. That whole never go back thing feels like a lazy pundits answer because ultimately it’s hollow and meaningless.
Bring him home!
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If there are as many successes as failures then my point holds as much weight as the counter argument
You are basically saying there's a 50/50 chance this could be successful.
I love Poch. Do not get me wrong. He took me to a UCL final. I will have few greater footballing memories than that weekend in madrid!
But the man has achieved next to zero in the last 6 years. There's no real evidence he should get the job on merit.
It's more nostalgia, which is compelling, but that makes it more of a 75% heart decision and 25% brain/football decision.
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50/50 is where any new incoming manager starts from. You can never be entirely sure about anyone. All I will say is that the one thing he'll be afforded more than any other manager is time, given the bond between himself and the fans. Then you factor in his ability to work with Levy. He's not going in blind and he's happy to work under a structure, whilst slightly different to the one he left, is still heavily controlled by the main man.
Then you have the make up of the squad he'd be inheriting. Fast, athletic, young. The perfect squad profile for a Poch team. It's all there for him.
The truth is that it's heart AND head. It makes sense on both levels.
I'm surprised you've fallen for the lazy trope about a lack of trophies like a lot of brainless Spurs fans. He took us closer than we've ever been to the truly top prizes and but for some bad luck in finals against very decent sides, he'd have won 2 or 3 for us. His two jobs after us were a circus and even at Chelsea, things were turning around before he was sacked. By all accounts, he didn't want to sell Gallagher and that's what contributed to the bitter feelings between himself and Boehly. For all Levy's faults, as you're very quick to support, the one thing that will never happen to us is the need to sell young talent to offset stupidity in the market. The only thing Poch is guilty of is not choosing the right owner/club before signing a contract. His abilities as a coach are still there.
This can only be the 'shiny new toy' syndrome. It's why fans don't really like signing players that used to play for us too. It's the excitement of the new. I get all that but if there's one candidate that ticks more boxes than any other, does it matter if he's been here before? Even if you put aside the emotional attachment, he's still the best profile of manager - someone with big club experience who's been there and done it and knows exactly what it takes to make it work for a club like Spurs.
The issue with the likes of Iraola or, to a lesser extent, Frank, is that they just become flavour of the month. By all accounts, Iraola's style of play isn't too dissimilar to Ange's. If he gets in Europe, that rabid intensity won't be achievable game by game. With Frank, I get the impression that he's a great manager at a certain level but I'm just not sure he has the gravitas for a big job. Outside of that, sure there are the likes of Inzaghi, who's been spoken about but these are huge, huge gambles. I'm not willing to roll the dice anymore.
Poch is the one man who's a big name, knows the club, fits the profile of the squad, understand the owner. It's the right choice on every possible level.
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You make very good points fridge which I agree with.
I never wanted Poch to leave at the time although many did.
I also don't want Ange to leave now.
Yeah, I know what you mean Luka. A bit like Jupp Heynckes was a lazy appointment for Bayern, right?
God, why did they do that? Sure they won the treble but it was so lazy, right?
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
never go back
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There are as many examples of successes as there are failures when managers retread the same ground meaning your point holds absolutely no weight whatsoever. If he were managing the same set of players maybe, but he wouldn’t be. That whole never go back thing feels like a lazy pundits answer because ultimately it’s hollow and meaningless.
Bring him home!
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If there are as many successes as failures then my point holds as much weight as the counter argument
You are basically saying there's a 50/50 chance this could be successful.
I love Poch. Do not get me wrong. He took me to a UCL final. I will have few greater footballing memories than that weekend in madrid!
But the man has achieved next to zero in the last 6 years. There's no real evidence he should get the job on merit.
It's more nostalgia, which is compelling, but that makes it more of a 75% heart decision and 25% brain/football decision.
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50/50 is where any new incoming manager starts from. You can never be entirely sure about anyone. All I will say is that the one thing he'll be afforded more than any other manager is time, given the bond between himself and the fans. Then you factor in his ability to work with Levy. He's not going in blind and he's happy to work under a structure, whilst slightly different to the one he left, is still heavily controlled by the main man.
Then you have the make up of the squad he'd be inheriting. Fast, athletic, young. The perfect squad profile for a Poch team. It's all there for him.
The truth is that it's heart AND head. It makes sense on both levels.
I'm surprised you've fallen for the lazy trope about a lack of trophies like a lot of brainless Spurs fans. He took us closer than we've ever been to the truly top prizes and but for some bad luck in finals against very decent sides, he'd have won 2 or 3 for us. His two jobs after us were a circus and even at Chelsea, things were turning around before he was sacked. By all accounts, he didn't want to sell Gallagher and that's what contributed to the bitter feelings between himself and Boehly. For all Levy's faults, as you're very quick to support, the one thing that will never happen to us is the need to sell young talent to offset stupidity in the market. The only thing Poch is guilty of is not choosing the right owner/club before signing a contract. His abilities as a coach are still there.
This can only be the 'shiny new toy' syndrome. It's why fans don't really like signing players that used to play for us too. It's the excitement of the new. I get all that but if there's one candidate that ticks more boxes than any other, does it matter if he's been here before? Even if you put aside the emotional attachment, he's still the best profile of manager - someone with big club experience who's been there and done it and knows exactly what it takes to make it work for a club like Spurs.
The issue with the likes of Iraola or, to a lesser extent, Frank, is that they just become flavour of the month. By all accounts, Iraola's style of play isn't too dissimilar to Ange's. If he gets in Europe, that rabid intensity won't be achievable game by game. With Frank, I get the impression that he's a great manager at a certain level but I'm just not sure he has the gravitas for a big job. Outside of that, sure there are the likes of Inzaghi, who's been spoken about but these are huge, huge gambles. I'm not willing to roll the dice anymore.
Poch is the one man who's a big name, knows the club, fits the profile of the squad, understand the owner. It's the right choice on every possible level.
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You make good points, but please note i have not mentioned any lack of trophies from Poch at Spurs.
I have had regard to a very underwhelming stint at PSG and a good comeback at Chelsea but that was also a real mess of a season, where they did not impress much but save it with a strong finish. But that's all he's done in 6 years. There isn't the evidence there that he has moved on with the game or already passed his peak.
I dont want a shiny new toy. I see massive risk in Iraola or Inzaghi or Frank or keeping Ange. If Poch came in then i'd love him to be a success more than anyone. I'm just not sure its right to take a step backwards and on paper there isn't much merit to it.
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
Chelsea finished below us in the league and Spurtle thinks he did a better job 😂. Clueless.
The Poch diciples are weird as funk.
As for Poch being interviewed a few hours before we play a big game and telling the world he is still begging for his old job back. Cringe as funk.
If I was an employer, I would stay well clear.
Over to you the Poch diciples to defend their lord.....
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They finished below us in 6th by 3 points so hardly anything. They also reached a cup final and a semi....how did we do in the cups again? Unlike us Poch finished the season strongly too, suggesting he had started to crack it. Been misery for us since the end of last season's collapse. So yeah, all in all a better job.
You really do have a funny way of pretending you don't hate Poch and aren't bitter about him going to Chelsea.
Burghandy
I don't want him sacked now either but I am of the belief that unless he comes home with the Europa League, given we're 13th at this stage of the season and have been steadily declining in form since November 2023, I'm ready for a change in the summer.
There's no excuse for him because we were poor for a huge chunk of last year too, so it's not just about bad luck with injuries (of which he's a huge contributing factor anyway). I'm happy to wait because nothing will improve with Mason in charge. I just hope they've lined up some targets for the summer.
He'd have to win every single game between now and the end of the season to convince me. We won't though. I'm almost certain we lose to Fulham on Sunday.
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
Poch failure at Spurs, zero trophies.
Spurtle "Poch was a success, success can be measured in different forms. Failure is success in Poch world."
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Helps to use context otherwise it makes you look like a simpleton.
Do you think Kane wasn't a success at Spurs as well because he didn't win anything? Perhaps he's a worse player than Jamie O'Hara in your eyes because Jamie did.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
Poch failure at Spurs, zero trophies.
Spurtle "Poch was a success, success can be measured in different forms. Failure is success in Poch world."
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Helps to use context otherwise it makes you look like a simpleton.
Do you think Kane wasn't a success at Spurs as well because he didn't win anything? Perhaps he's a worse player than Jamie O'Hara in your eyes because Jamie did.
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I remember making the same argument to Sandy. Rhian Brewster got a PL winners medal for Liverpool in 2020 so presumably that makes him better than Kane
It really is simpleton stuff.
History will show Kane scored loads of goals but ultimately failed to win team silverware.
Accept it and move on.
He did.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
Poch failure at Spurs, zero trophies.
Spurtle "Poch was a success, success can be measured in different forms. Failure is success in Poch world."
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Helps to use context otherwise it makes you look like a simpleton.
Do you think Kane wasn't a success at Spurs as well because he didn't win anything? Perhaps he's a worse player than Jamie O'Hara in your eyes because Jamie did.
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I remember making the same argument to Sandy. Rhian Brewster got a PL winners medal for Liverpool in 2020 so presumably that makes him better than Kane
It really is simpleton stuff.
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It's one of my pet peeves in football when fans bring up Player A being better than Player B because they won more, without looking at the whole picture.
There really are a lot of stupid people out there.
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 48 seconds ago
History will show Kane scored loads of goals but ultimately failed to win team silverware.
Accept it and move on.
He did.
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So you accept he's a worse player than O'Hara and Brewster?
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 34 seconds ago
History will show Kane scored loads of goals but ultimately failed to win team silverware.
Accept it and move on.
He did.
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Definitely doesn't have anything to do with the team he was playing for though?
I guess he'd still be drawing blanks if he'd gone to City.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
Chelsea finished below us in the league and Spurtle thinks he did a better job 😂. Clueless.
The Poch diciples are weird as funk.
As for Poch being interviewed a few hours before we play a big game and telling the world he is still begging for his old job back. Cringe as funk.
If I was an employer, I would stay well clear.
Over to you the Poch diciples to defend their lord.....
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They finished below us in 6th by 3 points so hardly anything. They also reached a cup final and a semi....how did we do in the cups again? Unlike us Poch finished the season strongly too, suggesting he had started to crack it. Been misery for us since the end of last season's collapse. So yeah, all in all a better job.
You really do have a funny way of pretending you don't hate Poch and aren't bitter about him going to Chelsea.
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I don't hate him. I feel sorry for him. If he was an actor he would be Barry from Eastenders. He had a decent run but now just doing bits and bobs whilst dreaming of us.
It's quite sad but imagining pining for someone they way he pines for us lol.
But yesturday was low. Not enough for me to hate him.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 48 seconds ago
History will show Kane scored loads of goals but ultimately failed to win team silverware.
Accept it and move on.
He did.
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So you accept he's a worse player than O'Hara and Brewster?
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Care to give us an answer here Luka?
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 48 seconds ago
History will show Kane scored loads of goals but ultimately failed to win team silverware.
Accept it and move on.
He did.
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So you accept he's a worse player than O'Hara and Brewster?
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Clearly not. Harry is a great player but he won bobbins with us. Not his fault. Mainly Poch's for bottling it.
The thing with Poch is, Is he any good now?
6th at Chelsea
Another lost final on his CV
Sacked from PSG after managing not to win the league in a 1 team league, got nowhere serious in the UCL with them.
USA coach
Do we expect him to turn up and suddenly be peak Poch again? and why do you think that will happen
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
Chelsea finished below us in the league and Spurtle thinks he did a better job 😂. Clueless.
The Poch diciples are weird as funk.
As for Poch being interviewed a few hours before we play a big game and telling the world he is still begging for his old job back. Cringe as funk.
If I was an employer, I would stay well clear.
Over to you the Poch diciples to defend their lord.....
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They finished below us in 6th by 3 points so hardly anything. They also reached a cup final and a semi....how did we do in the cups again? Unlike us Poch finished the season strongly too, suggesting he had started to crack it. Been misery for us since the end of last season's collapse. So yeah, all in all a better job.
You really do have a funny way of pretending you don't hate Poch and aren't bitter about him going to Chelsea.
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I don't hate him. I feel sorry for him. If he was an actor he would be Barry from Eastenders. He had a decent run but now just doing bits and bobs whilst dreaming of us.
It's quite sad but imagining pining for someone they way he pines for us lol.
But yesturday was low. Not enough for me to hate him.
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I can see it from his perspective. He came very close to achieving big success (trophies) with us and wasn't backed as much as he could have been by the chairman, while the work on the stadium went on in the background. Now he's seeing the slap head give all the money and patience to a poor manager. Probably thinks he can finish an unfinished job with us under those conditions.
I bet if you were to ask Kane, he would want to come back and win something with us too.
It is a bit weird all this public twerking tho. Just text Daniel
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
Chelsea finished below us in the league and Spurtle thinks he did a better job 😂. Clueless.
The Poch diciples are weird as funk.
As for Poch being interviewed a few hours before we play a big game and telling the world he is still begging for his old job back. Cringe as funk.
If I was an employer, I would stay well clear.
Over to you the Poch diciples to defend their lord.....
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They finished below us in 6th by 3 points so hardly anything. They also reached a cup final and a semi....how did we do in the cups again? Unlike us Poch finished the season strongly too, suggesting he had started to crack it. Been misery for us since the end of last season's collapse. So yeah, all in all a better job.
You really do have a funny way of pretending you don't hate Poch and aren't bitter about him going to Chelsea.
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I don't hate him. I feel sorry for him. If he was an actor he would be Barry from Eastenders. He had a decent run but now just doing bits and bobs whilst dreaming of us.
It's quite sad but imagining pining for someone they way he pines for us lol.
But yesturday was low. Not enough for me to hate him.
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I can see it from his perspective. He came very close to achieving big success (trophies) with us and wasn't backed as much as he could have been by the chairman, while the work on the stadium went on in the background. Now he's seeing the slap head give all the money and patience to a poor manager. Probably thinks he can finish an unfinished job with us under those conditions.
I bet if you were to ask Kane, he would want to come back and win something with us too.
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Not whilst Levy is here but maybe in his mid 30's if he is looking for a final pay day and won some stuff with Bayern.
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posted on 14/3/25
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
never go back
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Why not? We’ve gone back to the bottom half of the table and competing in Europe’s second teir competition and you seem fine with that.
Personally I prefer finishing 3rd/4th in the league every season and playing in the Champions League.
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We were 14th hen he was sacked. So you endorse his sacking?
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Oh Dev, please!
You sound like Sandy. I think he was only 5 points of 4th, given it was early in the season and it was a very even league at that point. You have to factor in that they're not robots. Losing that CL final killed their spirit. They all needed lifting off the floor. They brought in new players that were either injured or didn't settle. It was a tough time but then I lean more on the idea that if a manager has had 5 very, very decent years, he's afforded a blip. Look at Newcastle last season. They dropped off massively. They stuck with Howe and they're back, yet Poch had more credit in the bank than Howe ever did.
posted on 14/3/25
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Poch failure at Spurs, zero trophies.
Spurtle "Poch was a success, success can be measured in different forms. Failure is success in Poch world."
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Yep, and you know what? Spurtle is absolutely right. To not recognise success in a more nuanced form shows a total lack of intelligence.
posted on 14/3/25
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Poch failure at Spurs, zero trophies.
Spurtle "Poch was a success, success can be measured in different forms. Failure is success in Poch world."
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Yep, and you know what? Spurtle is absolutely right. To not recognise success in a more nuanced form shows a total lack of intelligence.
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posted on 14/3/25
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 44 minutes ago
Poch failure at Spurs, zero trophies.
Spurtle "Poch was a success, success can be measured in different forms. Failure is success in Poch world."
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Failure is what we’re experiencing NOW.
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And what did Spurs win under Pochettino in five and a half seasons?
20 Tournaments entered = zero wins.
I think we have done that gig.
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What you're failing to consider here, as always, is that there have always been at least 4 better teams than us at any one time in the PL. Always. If you get to a final or close to it, you're likely to have to play those sides. The odds on winning them are poor. That's just the nature of football and the pyramid. We're not in that very top bracket. So to judge a manager on that alone, without taking into account the financial restrictions he had to face compared to those 4 or 5 teams around him, is frankly baffling, bordering on stupid.
He had far less to spend than anyone else. Just take a look at the stats below and tell me he wasn't working miracles compared to everyone else. Sure, he didn't win anything but the very fact he got us within a whisker of winning anything, let alone the CL or even the PL, is 'success'. What he inherited in 2014 and what he developed isn't talked about enough. Then you also have to factor in that he also had us in the top 3 despite the fact that we didn't play a home game for 3 years.
Here's his net spend...
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/11366241/is-mauricio-pochettino-overachieving-at-tottenham
and here's Ange's...
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/2nd-highest-net-spend-in-pl-since-postecoglou-arrived-what-should-spurs-expectations-be-/view/news/440038
I think that makes my point. You're just wrong on every possible level. Here endeth the argument.
posted on 14/3/25
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
never go back
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Why not? We’ve gone back to the bottom half of the table and competing in Europe’s second teir competition and you seem fine with that.
Personally I prefer finishing 3rd/4th in the league every season and playing in the Champions League.
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We were 14th hen he was sacked. So you endorse his sacking?
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Oh Dev, please!
You sound like Sandy. I think he was only 5 points of 4th, given it was early in the season and it was a very even league at that point. You have to factor in that they're not robots. Losing that CL final killed their spirit. They all needed lifting off the floor. They brought in new players that were either injured or didn't settle. It was a tough time but then I lean more on the idea that if a manager has had 5 very, very decent years, he's afforded a blip. Look at Newcastle last season. They dropped off massively. They stuck with Howe and they're back, yet Poch had more credit in the bank than Howe ever did.
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All i was really pushing back from here is Sizzles simple criteria. He wants Ange sacked now because we're 13th and havent won anything (still in 1 cup though)
I didnt want Poch to go but in his last 24 PL games (last 12 in 18/19, first 12 in 19/20), we managed 25 points. We hadnt won away since the Feb. It had turned in to a bit more than a blip, there were fundamental issues.
I know he had credit in the bank BUT Sizzle is applying simple criteria, very selectively.
25 points after 24 games this season would have seen us 17th.
posted on 14/3/25
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Poch failure at Spurs, zero trophies.
Spurtle "Poch was a success, success can be measured in different forms. Failure is success in Poch world."
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Yep, and you know what? Spurtle is absolutely right. To not recognise success in a more nuanced form shows a total lack of intelligence.
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BS. It's excuses after excuses. Horsechit.
posted on 14/3/25
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
never go back
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There are as many examples of successes as there are failures when managers retread the same ground meaning your point holds absolutely no weight whatsoever. If he were managing the same set of players maybe, but he wouldn’t be. That whole never go back thing feels like a lazy pundits answer because ultimately it’s hollow and meaningless.
Bring him home!
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If there are as many successes as failures then my point holds as much weight as the counter argument
You are basically saying there's a 50/50 chance this could be successful.
I love Poch. Do not get me wrong. He took me to a UCL final. I will have few greater footballing memories than that weekend in madrid!
But the man has achieved next to zero in the last 6 years. There's no real evidence he should get the job on merit.
It's more nostalgia, which is compelling, but that makes it more of a 75% heart decision and 25% brain/football decision.
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50/50 is where any new incoming manager starts from. You can never be entirely sure about anyone. All I will say is that the one thing he'll be afforded more than any other manager is time, given the bond between himself and the fans. Then you factor in his ability to work with Levy. He's not going in blind and he's happy to work under a structure, whilst slightly different to the one he left, is still heavily controlled by the main man.
Then you have the make up of the squad he'd be inheriting. Fast, athletic, young. The perfect squad profile for a Poch team. It's all there for him.
The truth is that it's heart AND head. It makes sense on both levels.
I'm surprised you've fallen for the lazy trope about a lack of trophies like a lot of brainless Spurs fans. He took us closer than we've ever been to the truly top prizes and but for some bad luck in finals against very decent sides, he'd have won 2 or 3 for us. His two jobs after us were a circus and even at Chelsea, things were turning around before he was sacked. By all accounts, he didn't want to sell Gallagher and that's what contributed to the bitter feelings between himself and Boehly. For all Levy's faults, as you're very quick to support, the one thing that will never happen to us is the need to sell young talent to offset stupidity in the market. The only thing Poch is guilty of is not choosing the right owner/club before signing a contract. His abilities as a coach are still there.
This can only be the 'shiny new toy' syndrome. It's why fans don't really like signing players that used to play for us too. It's the excitement of the new. I get all that but if there's one candidate that ticks more boxes than any other, does it matter if he's been here before? Even if you put aside the emotional attachment, he's still the best profile of manager - someone with big club experience who's been there and done it and knows exactly what it takes to make it work for a club like Spurs.
The issue with the likes of Iraola or, to a lesser extent, Frank, is that they just become flavour of the month. By all accounts, Iraola's style of play isn't too dissimilar to Ange's. If he gets in Europe, that rabid intensity won't be achievable game by game. With Frank, I get the impression that he's a great manager at a certain level but I'm just not sure he has the gravitas for a big job. Outside of that, sure there are the likes of Inzaghi, who's been spoken about but these are huge, huge gambles. I'm not willing to roll the dice anymore.
Poch is the one man who's a big name, knows the club, fits the profile of the squad, understand the owner. It's the right choice on every possible level.
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It would be a lazy appointment Z z z
posted on 14/3/25
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
never go back
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There are as many examples of successes as there are failures when managers retread the same ground meaning your point holds absolutely no weight whatsoever. If he were managing the same set of players maybe, but he wouldn’t be. That whole never go back thing feels like a lazy pundits answer because ultimately it’s hollow and meaningless.
Bring him home!
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If there are as many successes as failures then my point holds as much weight as the counter argument
You are basically saying there's a 50/50 chance this could be successful.
I love Poch. Do not get me wrong. He took me to a UCL final. I will have few greater footballing memories than that weekend in madrid!
But the man has achieved next to zero in the last 6 years. There's no real evidence he should get the job on merit.
It's more nostalgia, which is compelling, but that makes it more of a 75% heart decision and 25% brain/football decision.
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50/50 is where any new incoming manager starts from. You can never be entirely sure about anyone. All I will say is that the one thing he'll be afforded more than any other manager is time, given the bond between himself and the fans. Then you factor in his ability to work with Levy. He's not going in blind and he's happy to work under a structure, whilst slightly different to the one he left, is still heavily controlled by the main man.
Then you have the make up of the squad he'd be inheriting. Fast, athletic, young. The perfect squad profile for a Poch team. It's all there for him.
The truth is that it's heart AND head. It makes sense on both levels.
I'm surprised you've fallen for the lazy trope about a lack of trophies like a lot of brainless Spurs fans. He took us closer than we've ever been to the truly top prizes and but for some bad luck in finals against very decent sides, he'd have won 2 or 3 for us. His two jobs after us were a circus and even at Chelsea, things were turning around before he was sacked. By all accounts, he didn't want to sell Gallagher and that's what contributed to the bitter feelings between himself and Boehly. For all Levy's faults, as you're very quick to support, the one thing that will never happen to us is the need to sell young talent to offset stupidity in the market. The only thing Poch is guilty of is not choosing the right owner/club before signing a contract. His abilities as a coach are still there.
This can only be the 'shiny new toy' syndrome. It's why fans don't really like signing players that used to play for us too. It's the excitement of the new. I get all that but if there's one candidate that ticks more boxes than any other, does it matter if he's been here before? Even if you put aside the emotional attachment, he's still the best profile of manager - someone with big club experience who's been there and done it and knows exactly what it takes to make it work for a club like Spurs.
The issue with the likes of Iraola or, to a lesser extent, Frank, is that they just become flavour of the month. By all accounts, Iraola's style of play isn't too dissimilar to Ange's. If he gets in Europe, that rabid intensity won't be achievable game by game. With Frank, I get the impression that he's a great manager at a certain level but I'm just not sure he has the gravitas for a big job. Outside of that, sure there are the likes of Inzaghi, who's been spoken about but these are huge, huge gambles. I'm not willing to roll the dice anymore.
Poch is the one man who's a big name, knows the club, fits the profile of the squad, understand the owner. It's the right choice on every possible level.
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You make very good points fridge which I agree with.
I never wanted Poch to leave at the time although many did.
I also don't want Ange to leave now.
posted on 14/3/25
Yeah, I know what you mean Luka. A bit like Jupp Heynckes was a lazy appointment for Bayern, right?
God, why did they do that? Sure they won the treble but it was so lazy, right?
posted on 14/3/25
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
never go back
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There are as many examples of successes as there are failures when managers retread the same ground meaning your point holds absolutely no weight whatsoever. If he were managing the same set of players maybe, but he wouldn’t be. That whole never go back thing feels like a lazy pundits answer because ultimately it’s hollow and meaningless.
Bring him home!
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If there are as many successes as failures then my point holds as much weight as the counter argument
You are basically saying there's a 50/50 chance this could be successful.
I love Poch. Do not get me wrong. He took me to a UCL final. I will have few greater footballing memories than that weekend in madrid!
But the man has achieved next to zero in the last 6 years. There's no real evidence he should get the job on merit.
It's more nostalgia, which is compelling, but that makes it more of a 75% heart decision and 25% brain/football decision.
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50/50 is where any new incoming manager starts from. You can never be entirely sure about anyone. All I will say is that the one thing he'll be afforded more than any other manager is time, given the bond between himself and the fans. Then you factor in his ability to work with Levy. He's not going in blind and he's happy to work under a structure, whilst slightly different to the one he left, is still heavily controlled by the main man.
Then you have the make up of the squad he'd be inheriting. Fast, athletic, young. The perfect squad profile for a Poch team. It's all there for him.
The truth is that it's heart AND head. It makes sense on both levels.
I'm surprised you've fallen for the lazy trope about a lack of trophies like a lot of brainless Spurs fans. He took us closer than we've ever been to the truly top prizes and but for some bad luck in finals against very decent sides, he'd have won 2 or 3 for us. His two jobs after us were a circus and even at Chelsea, things were turning around before he was sacked. By all accounts, he didn't want to sell Gallagher and that's what contributed to the bitter feelings between himself and Boehly. For all Levy's faults, as you're very quick to support, the one thing that will never happen to us is the need to sell young talent to offset stupidity in the market. The only thing Poch is guilty of is not choosing the right owner/club before signing a contract. His abilities as a coach are still there.
This can only be the 'shiny new toy' syndrome. It's why fans don't really like signing players that used to play for us too. It's the excitement of the new. I get all that but if there's one candidate that ticks more boxes than any other, does it matter if he's been here before? Even if you put aside the emotional attachment, he's still the best profile of manager - someone with big club experience who's been there and done it and knows exactly what it takes to make it work for a club like Spurs.
The issue with the likes of Iraola or, to a lesser extent, Frank, is that they just become flavour of the month. By all accounts, Iraola's style of play isn't too dissimilar to Ange's. If he gets in Europe, that rabid intensity won't be achievable game by game. With Frank, I get the impression that he's a great manager at a certain level but I'm just not sure he has the gravitas for a big job. Outside of that, sure there are the likes of Inzaghi, who's been spoken about but these are huge, huge gambles. I'm not willing to roll the dice anymore.
Poch is the one man who's a big name, knows the club, fits the profile of the squad, understand the owner. It's the right choice on every possible level.
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You make good points, but please note i have not mentioned any lack of trophies from Poch at Spurs.
I have had regard to a very underwhelming stint at PSG and a good comeback at Chelsea but that was also a real mess of a season, where they did not impress much but save it with a strong finish. But that's all he's done in 6 years. There isn't the evidence there that he has moved on with the game or already passed his peak.
I dont want a shiny new toy. I see massive risk in Iraola or Inzaghi or Frank or keeping Ange. If Poch came in then i'd love him to be a success more than anyone. I'm just not sure its right to take a step backwards and on paper there isn't much merit to it.
posted on 14/3/25
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
Chelsea finished below us in the league and Spurtle thinks he did a better job 😂. Clueless.
The Poch diciples are weird as funk.
As for Poch being interviewed a few hours before we play a big game and telling the world he is still begging for his old job back. Cringe as funk.
If I was an employer, I would stay well clear.
Over to you the Poch diciples to defend their lord.....
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They finished below us in 6th by 3 points so hardly anything. They also reached a cup final and a semi....how did we do in the cups again? Unlike us Poch finished the season strongly too, suggesting he had started to crack it. Been misery for us since the end of last season's collapse. So yeah, all in all a better job.
You really do have a funny way of pretending you don't hate Poch and aren't bitter about him going to Chelsea.
posted on 14/3/25
Burghandy
I don't want him sacked now either but I am of the belief that unless he comes home with the Europa League, given we're 13th at this stage of the season and have been steadily declining in form since November 2023, I'm ready for a change in the summer.
There's no excuse for him because we were poor for a huge chunk of last year too, so it's not just about bad luck with injuries (of which he's a huge contributing factor anyway). I'm happy to wait because nothing will improve with Mason in charge. I just hope they've lined up some targets for the summer.
He'd have to win every single game between now and the end of the season to convince me. We won't though. I'm almost certain we lose to Fulham on Sunday.
posted on 14/3/25
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
Poch failure at Spurs, zero trophies.
Spurtle "Poch was a success, success can be measured in different forms. Failure is success in Poch world."
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Helps to use context otherwise it makes you look like a simpleton.
Do you think Kane wasn't a success at Spurs as well because he didn't win anything? Perhaps he's a worse player than Jamie O'Hara in your eyes because Jamie did.
posted on 14/3/25
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
Poch failure at Spurs, zero trophies.
Spurtle "Poch was a success, success can be measured in different forms. Failure is success in Poch world."
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Helps to use context otherwise it makes you look like a simpleton.
Do you think Kane wasn't a success at Spurs as well because he didn't win anything? Perhaps he's a worse player than Jamie O'Hara in your eyes because Jamie did.
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I remember making the same argument to Sandy. Rhian Brewster got a PL winners medal for Liverpool in 2020 so presumably that makes him better than Kane
It really is simpleton stuff.
posted on 14/3/25
History will show Kane scored loads of goals but ultimately failed to win team silverware.
Accept it and move on.
He did.
posted on 14/3/25
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
Poch failure at Spurs, zero trophies.
Spurtle "Poch was a success, success can be measured in different forms. Failure is success in Poch world."
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Helps to use context otherwise it makes you look like a simpleton.
Do you think Kane wasn't a success at Spurs as well because he didn't win anything? Perhaps he's a worse player than Jamie O'Hara in your eyes because Jamie did.
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I remember making the same argument to Sandy. Rhian Brewster got a PL winners medal for Liverpool in 2020 so presumably that makes him better than Kane
It really is simpleton stuff.
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It's one of my pet peeves in football when fans bring up Player A being better than Player B because they won more, without looking at the whole picture.
There really are a lot of stupid people out there.
posted on 14/3/25
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 48 seconds ago
History will show Kane scored loads of goals but ultimately failed to win team silverware.
Accept it and move on.
He did.
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So you accept he's a worse player than O'Hara and Brewster?
posted on 14/3/25
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 34 seconds ago
History will show Kane scored loads of goals but ultimately failed to win team silverware.
Accept it and move on.
He did.
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Definitely doesn't have anything to do with the team he was playing for though?
I guess he'd still be drawing blanks if he'd gone to City.
posted on 14/3/25
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
Chelsea finished below us in the league and Spurtle thinks he did a better job 😂. Clueless.
The Poch diciples are weird as funk.
As for Poch being interviewed a few hours before we play a big game and telling the world he is still begging for his old job back. Cringe as funk.
If I was an employer, I would stay well clear.
Over to you the Poch diciples to defend their lord.....
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They finished below us in 6th by 3 points so hardly anything. They also reached a cup final and a semi....how did we do in the cups again? Unlike us Poch finished the season strongly too, suggesting he had started to crack it. Been misery for us since the end of last season's collapse. So yeah, all in all a better job.
You really do have a funny way of pretending you don't hate Poch and aren't bitter about him going to Chelsea.
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I don't hate him. I feel sorry for him. If he was an actor he would be Barry from Eastenders. He had a decent run but now just doing bits and bobs whilst dreaming of us.
It's quite sad but imagining pining for someone they way he pines for us lol.
But yesturday was low. Not enough for me to hate him.
posted on 14/3/25
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 48 seconds ago
History will show Kane scored loads of goals but ultimately failed to win team silverware.
Accept it and move on.
He did.
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So you accept he's a worse player than O'Hara and Brewster?
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Care to give us an answer here Luka?
posted on 14/3/25
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 48 seconds ago
History will show Kane scored loads of goals but ultimately failed to win team silverware.
Accept it and move on.
He did.
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So you accept he's a worse player than O'Hara and Brewster?
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Clearly not. Harry is a great player but he won bobbins with us. Not his fault. Mainly Poch's for bottling it.
posted on 14/3/25
The thing with Poch is, Is he any good now?
6th at Chelsea
Another lost final on his CV
Sacked from PSG after managing not to win the league in a 1 team league, got nowhere serious in the UCL with them.
USA coach
Do we expect him to turn up and suddenly be peak Poch again? and why do you think that will happen
posted on 14/3/25
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
Chelsea finished below us in the league and Spurtle thinks he did a better job 😂. Clueless.
The Poch diciples are weird as funk.
As for Poch being interviewed a few hours before we play a big game and telling the world he is still begging for his old job back. Cringe as funk.
If I was an employer, I would stay well clear.
Over to you the Poch diciples to defend their lord.....
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They finished below us in 6th by 3 points so hardly anything. They also reached a cup final and a semi....how did we do in the cups again? Unlike us Poch finished the season strongly too, suggesting he had started to crack it. Been misery for us since the end of last season's collapse. So yeah, all in all a better job.
You really do have a funny way of pretending you don't hate Poch and aren't bitter about him going to Chelsea.
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I don't hate him. I feel sorry for him. If he was an actor he would be Barry from Eastenders. He had a decent run but now just doing bits and bobs whilst dreaming of us.
It's quite sad but imagining pining for someone they way he pines for us lol.
But yesturday was low. Not enough for me to hate him.
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I can see it from his perspective. He came very close to achieving big success (trophies) with us and wasn't backed as much as he could have been by the chairman, while the work on the stadium went on in the background. Now he's seeing the slap head give all the money and patience to a poor manager. Probably thinks he can finish an unfinished job with us under those conditions.
I bet if you were to ask Kane, he would want to come back and win something with us too.
posted on 14/3/25
It is a bit weird all this public twerking tho. Just text Daniel
posted on 14/3/25
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Luka "The List" Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
Chelsea finished below us in the league and Spurtle thinks he did a better job 😂. Clueless.
The Poch diciples are weird as funk.
As for Poch being interviewed a few hours before we play a big game and telling the world he is still begging for his old job back. Cringe as funk.
If I was an employer, I would stay well clear.
Over to you the Poch diciples to defend their lord.....
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They finished below us in 6th by 3 points so hardly anything. They also reached a cup final and a semi....how did we do in the cups again? Unlike us Poch finished the season strongly too, suggesting he had started to crack it. Been misery for us since the end of last season's collapse. So yeah, all in all a better job.
You really do have a funny way of pretending you don't hate Poch and aren't bitter about him going to Chelsea.
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I don't hate him. I feel sorry for him. If he was an actor he would be Barry from Eastenders. He had a decent run but now just doing bits and bobs whilst dreaming of us.
It's quite sad but imagining pining for someone they way he pines for us lol.
But yesturday was low. Not enough for me to hate him.
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I can see it from his perspective. He came very close to achieving big success (trophies) with us and wasn't backed as much as he could have been by the chairman, while the work on the stadium went on in the background. Now he's seeing the slap head give all the money and patience to a poor manager. Probably thinks he can finish an unfinished job with us under those conditions.
I bet if you were to ask Kane, he would want to come back and win something with us too.
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Not whilst Levy is here but maybe in his mid 30's if he is looking for a final pay day and won some stuff with Bayern.
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