Amorim is sabotaging the club. He is simply allergic to decent attackers.

https://youtu.be/OMr8d5C1fGM?si=afMFlByD73DFMUJq

Let's admire that goal

Ruben is a fool

“Ruben, it’s now or never”

“Alright then I’m gonna screw your club for generations”

Garnacho > Mount all day long for me

Rashford gone. Garnacho gone. Kobbie's Utd career looking flimsy too.

Is this all worth it purely for a gamble this gets better? I think given time and money Ruben is a capable coach but is he going to get either of those things with us? I doubt it very much. The media and fans will chase him out next season then second we don't look like we can get a result.

For very different reasons to the Amorim outers.....I think it might actually make more sense to wave goodbye now as the cash isn't there for what he needs.

Best to do this now though rather than having a long saga over Summer. Sell soon and buy straight after and get them together asap ready for next season.

Sad it's come to this but it could be what it takes.

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 10 seconds ago
Best to do this now though rather than having a long saga over Summer. Sell soon and buy straight after and get them together asap ready for next season.

Sad it's come to this but it could be what it takes.
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I have totally changed my mind on this. That performance and those decisions against Spurs were just baffling.

I think I'd rather keep Garnacho than Ruben tbh. Garnacho has the potential to be here 10 years plus.
Ruben probably won't be here longer than 12 months.

I don't think we can just throw away Rashford, Garnacho and possibly Kobbie too just to see how this gamble plays out.

I like Ruben and similar to ETH I think he can go and be a success again somewhere else. I just don't think it's going to be with us. We just won't have the hundreds of millions he's going to need.

Garnacho looked lively against us, glad he didn’t start.

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 10 seconds ago
Best to do this now though rather than having a long saga over Summer. Sell soon and buy straight after and get them together asap ready for next season.

Sad it's come to this but it could be what it takes.
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I have totally changed my mind on this. That performance and those decisions against Spurs were just baffling.

I think I'd rather keep Garnacho than Ruben tbh. Garnacho has the potential to be here 10 years plus.
Ruben probably won't be here longer than 12 months.

I don't think we can just throw away Rashford, Garnacho and possibly Kobbie too just to see how this gamble plays out.

I like Ruben and similar to ETH I think he can go and be a success again somewhere else. I just don't think it's going to be with us. We just won't have the hundreds of millions he's going to need.
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We hear that every summer and end up spending 200 million +

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 10 seconds ago
Best to do this now though rather than having a long saga over Summer. Sell soon and buy straight after and get them together asap ready for next season.

Sad it's come to this but it could be what it takes.
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I have totally changed my mind on this. That performance and those decisions against Spurs were just baffling.

I think I'd rather keep Garnacho than Ruben tbh. Garnacho has the potential to be here 10 years plus.
Ruben probably won't be here longer than 12 months.

I don't think we can just throw away Rashford, Garnacho and possibly Kobbie too just to see how this gamble plays out.

I like Ruben and similar to ETH I think he can go and be a success again somewhere else. I just don't think it's going to be with us. We just won't have the hundreds of millions he's going to need.
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We hear that every summer and end up spending 200 million +
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This is only the 2nd time in 30 odd years we will have no European football. The debt has never been higher and we are walking into a PSR nightmare. Oh and we still owe few hundred million in past transfers.

We might spend 200m this summer but that certainly won't be 200m NET. After player sales I'd imagine it will be less than 100m.

I’m not 100% Amorim out, but I would definitely rather see Amorim leave the club than Garnacho or Mainoo.

comment by Tony Le Mesmer (U1449)
posted 30 minutes ago
Garnacho > Mount all day long for me
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And it’s not even close. Ruben threw away the Europa league final with that call.

comment by He’s French, He’s Flash… (U9335)
posted 40 seconds ago
I’m not 100% Amorim out, but I would definitely rather see Amorim leave the club than Garnacho or Mainoo.
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I'm exactly same.

He's not going to get the time and money to change us into the team he wants. He knows that and so does everyone else. If things don't drastically improve in first 10 games next season he will be gone.

Like ETH.....I can see him being a very successful coach elsewhere too. He's not a terrible coach off the back of this 6 months. The club is an utter shambles that he didn't create.

comment by He’s French, He’s Flash… (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tony Le Mesmer (U1449)
posted 30 minutes ago
Garnacho > Mount all day long for me
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And it’s not even close. Ruben threw away the Europa league final with that call.
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Tend to agree with this too. He made a huge call and it didn't work. Mount was the invisible man and Garnacho did more in 5 mins after coming on.

Ruben hasn't helped himself at all. Don't think he's really got the fight in him for this job either. Telling people he's ready to walk without compensation is a huge red flag.

Keep Garnacho and change managers yet again (FFS) might well be our safer option here. Crazy this club. 😂

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 10 seconds ago
Best to do this now though rather than having a long saga over Summer. Sell soon and buy straight after and get them together asap ready for next season.

Sad it's come to this but it could be what it takes.
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I have totally changed my mind on this. That performance and those decisions against Spurs were just baffling.

I think I'd rather keep Garnacho than Ruben tbh. Garnacho has the potential to be here 10 years plus.
Ruben probably won't be here longer than 12 months.

I don't think we can just throw away Rashford, Garnacho and possibly Kobbie too just to see how this gamble plays out.

I like Ruben and similar to ETH I think he can go and be a success again somewhere else. I just don't think it's going to be with us. We just won't have the hundreds of millions he's going to need.
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If the club have decided to back Ruben though then it makes sense to do this now. What we don't want is a saga over Summer. Better to remove doubt now IMO.

Promising young player who will naturally be hit and miss has really been thrown under the bus by Amorin and harshly scapegoated by your fans. You will be probably regret this one.

I like Garnacho, he always makes things happen.
But I always back the manager, player power can't win.

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 10 seconds ago
Best to do this now though rather than having a long saga over Summer. Sell soon and buy straight after and get them together asap ready for next season.

Sad it's come to this but it could be what it takes.
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I have totally changed my mind on this. That performance and those decisions against Spurs were just baffling.

I think I'd rather keep Garnacho than Ruben tbh. Garnacho has the potential to be here 10 years plus.
Ruben probably won't be here longer than 12 months.

I don't think we can just throw away Rashford, Garnacho and possibly Kobbie too just to see how this gamble plays out.

I like Ruben and similar to ETH I think he can go and be a success again somewhere else. I just don't think it's going to be with us. We just won't have the hundreds of millions he's going to need.
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If the club have decided to back Ruben though then it makes sense to do this now. What we don't want is a saga over Summer. Better to remove doubt now IMO.
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Remove doubt by booting Ruben out

Think under the right manager Garnaxho could be a great player. Needs to sort his attitude out though.

comment by (K̇ash) - 20+6 - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 Resistance is Existence (U1108)
posted 4 minutes ago
Promising young player who will naturally be hit and miss has really been thrown under the bus by Amorin and harshly scapegoated by your fans. You will be probably regret this one.
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How has Garnacho been thrown under the bus by Amorim?

Now would be the time to sack the manager too if they didn't have faith in the plan. They do have to go the whole hog (calm down, Luke) now though with it.

comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - 20+6 - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 Resistance is Existence (U1108)
posted 4 minutes ago
Promising young player who will naturally be hit and miss has really been thrown under the bus by Amorin and harshly scapegoated by your fans. You will be probably regret this one.
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How has Garnacho been thrown under the bus by Amorim?
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I don't think he has at all.

You can't have a young player (well any player) be as openly critical of the manager.

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 10 seconds ago
Best to do this now though rather than having a long saga over Summer. Sell soon and buy straight after and get them together asap ready for next season.

Sad it's come to this but it could be what it takes.
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I have totally changed my mind on this. That performance and those decisions against Spurs were just baffling.

I think I'd rather keep Garnacho than Ruben tbh. Garnacho has the potential to be here 10 years plus.
Ruben probably won't be here longer than 12 months.

I don't think we can just throw away Rashford, Garnacho and possibly Kobbie too just to see how this gamble plays out.

I like Ruben and similar to ETH I think he can go and be a success again somewhere else. I just don't think it's going to be with us. We just won't have the hundreds of millions he's going to need.
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We hear that every summer and end up spending 200 million +
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This is only the 2nd time in 30 odd years we will have no European football. The debt has never been higher and we are walking into a PSR nightmare. Oh and we still owe few hundred million in past transfers.

We might spend 200m this summer but that certainly won't be 200m NET. After player sales I'd imagine it will be less than 100m.
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True but I do think we have plenty of sellable assets that won’t necessarily weaken us.