comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 12 minutes ago
I'm pretty sure the EU has said it would protect the NHS explicitly in the negotiations.
The privatisation of the NHS would concern me far more out of the EU than in it.
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100%
People need to look at the future leadership of the Conservative Party and then read what they have written about the NHS.
Gove's book, for example, explicitly calls for the complete dismantlement of the Service.
Ah see I'm the opposite, I don't think there has been much impact to our economy and won't be in the short term as we can mask it fairly easily, it's in 5 or 10 years that we will really see the negative impact.
I don't see how renegotiating 57 trade agreements from a position of actually little strength can be discarded from a position of faith. Nor do I see how we can get access to the single market in anywhere near as good a position as we have now.
I don't believe it is the cause of the majority of the issues that were discussed on the referendum and our own govermment has got off very lightly. Even if they were, it's MEPs we've elected (the joint largest amount in the EU) so it feels a bit daft to me anyway not to blame ourselves either way.
the markets shall sort themselves out when the government comes out with a plan
The financial predictions for Bremain that were produced to support their campaign claimed we would earn £35 a week less by 2030. What they didnt say was that the same predictions included slower growth and lower inflation so the cost of living would also be lower. Bremain went with the headline that we would be worse off, based on earnings only whereas in real terms of what you will be able to afford to buy the effects are far less dramatic.
People need to learn to find out whats behind the propeganda.
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 9 minutes ago
Any government that gave away control of the NHS would be commiting political suicide. I think it is safer outside TTIP.
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What makes you think that TTIP will not be on the negotiating table when we start negotiating our trade deals with either EU or USA?
A huge part of TTIP is to allow USA corporations access to our closed NHS. If the EU cannot provide that then that part of TTIP will possibly be removed for the EU deal.
Any UK deal WILL still have an NHS clause to allow USA corporations full access to the NHS.
NO NHS, No deal.
As much as you don't want to believe this, it will happen and sooner rather than later.
Another point to think about is that as the UK has been part of EU for 40 years, we have had no need of trade deal negotiators.
As a consequence of brexit we will require hundreds of trained trade deal negotiators and we have between 12 and 20 with any experience of the type of deals we will need to negotiate.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36628897
This is indeed going to be a very bumpy ride
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford ... (U17054)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 47 minutes ago
Labour is a joke, these red tories are an embarrassment. This is the time to stick together
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What will they all do when Jezza is reelected? They need to listen to the Membership.
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Oh, the great unwashed should be listened to now?
The great unwashed put us in this bladdy mess in the first place
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 3 minutes ago
Another point to think about is that as the UK has been part of EU for 40 years, we have had no need of trade deal negotiators.
As a consequence of brexit we will require hundreds of trained trade deal negotiators and we have between 12 and 20 with any experience of the type of deals we will need to negotiate.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36628897
This is indeed going to be a very bumpy ride
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Based on the discussions on here over the past few days, I would think that 60-80% of our negotiating needs can be filled by ja606 posters.
Rosso
The book you refer to may have had parts that were about privatising the NHS. The book had more than 1 contributor and Goves contribution was not about the NHS.
We had 92 million pounds worth of exports to the USA by the last set of figures, but no trade deal.
TTiP is just more proof that EU commission is for corporations and not the benefits of ordinary europeans.
This years round of increases in the EU budget has been kept secret like TTiP negotiations.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 41 seconds ago
Based on the discussions on here over the past few days, I would think that 60-80% of our negotiating needs can be filled by ja606 posters.
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Oh that's OK then
So we havn't got any one who can make a trade deal cause its all been done by EU, well they can't be that good at negotiations, oh wait they havn't made a deal with, India China or Australia and it took 9 years to get one with Canada. It's cause they are very good at protectionism, not openness.
comment by Robben: 1912 (U1145)
posted 6 minutes ago
The great unwashed put us in this bladdy mess in the first place
_________________________
No it was Blair selling us down the river.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 4 minutes ago
TTIP for one but that appears to be under threat now.
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That concerns you more than the ongoing privatisation under new labour and this government?
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Normal Labour supporters have a duty to pay their £3 and vote against Corbyn.
If they do not, there is no point whining about another Tory government
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Robben: 1912 (U1145)
posted 6 minutes ago
The great unwashed put us in this bladdy mess in the first place
_________________________
No it was Blair selling us down the river.
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Sophy Ridge @SophyRidgeSky 16m16 minutes ago
Things are moving quickly in Tory party. Nominations for leader close THIS THURSDAY, leader in place by September 2
Sky News @SkyNews 32m32 minutes ago
Pound reaches 31-year low, falling by over 3% on top of 10% plunge seen after #EUref results http://trib.al/7Unzd7t
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt ... (U11781)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sophy Ridge @SophyRidgeSky 16m16 minutes ago
Things are moving quickly in Tory party. Nominations for leader close THIS THURSDAY, leader in place by September 2
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Good news
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt ... (U11781)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sophy Ridge @SophyRidgeSky 16m16 minutes ago
Things are moving quickly in Tory party. Nominations for leader close THIS THURSDAY, leader in place by September 2
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Good news
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Even if that leader is BJ?
comment by Ramsey and his people ...... Dot & Peebs people (U10012)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt ... (U11781)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sophy Ridge @SophyRidgeSky 16m16 minutes ago
Things are moving quickly in Tory party. Nominations for leader close THIS THURSDAY, leader in place by September 2
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Good news
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Even if that leader is BJ?
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With the country soon to be on its knees, only fitting its leader should be similarly so...
I do hope the pound value seriously improves in the next few weeks
A lot of mystic meg politicians on ja606.
BBC Breaking News @BBCBreaking 43s43 seconds ago
Turkish President Erdogan apologises for downing of Russian jet over Syria in November, Moscow says
Turkey getting nuked in a few hours
comment by Viva Vela (U17571)
posted 36 seconds ago
A lot of mystic meg politicians on ja606.
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Better mystic, than no facking clue at all.
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 44 seconds ago
BBC Breaking News @BBCBreaking 43s43 seconds ago
Turkish President Erdogan apologises for downing of Russian jet over Syria in November, Moscow says
Turkey getting nuked in a few hours
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They've admitted it..
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posted on 27/6/16
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 12 minutes ago
I'm pretty sure the EU has said it would protect the NHS explicitly in the negotiations.
The privatisation of the NHS would concern me far more out of the EU than in it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
100%
People need to look at the future leadership of the Conservative Party and then read what they have written about the NHS.
Gove's book, for example, explicitly calls for the complete dismantlement of the Service.
posted on 27/6/16
Ah see I'm the opposite, I don't think there has been much impact to our economy and won't be in the short term as we can mask it fairly easily, it's in 5 or 10 years that we will really see the negative impact.
I don't see how renegotiating 57 trade agreements from a position of actually little strength can be discarded from a position of faith. Nor do I see how we can get access to the single market in anywhere near as good a position as we have now.
I don't believe it is the cause of the majority of the issues that were discussed on the referendum and our own govermment has got off very lightly. Even if they were, it's MEPs we've elected (the joint largest amount in the EU) so it feels a bit daft to me anyway not to blame ourselves either way.
posted on 27/6/16
the markets shall sort themselves out when the government comes out with a plan
posted on 27/6/16
The financial predictions for Bremain that were produced to support their campaign claimed we would earn £35 a week less by 2030. What they didnt say was that the same predictions included slower growth and lower inflation so the cost of living would also be lower. Bremain went with the headline that we would be worse off, based on earnings only whereas in real terms of what you will be able to afford to buy the effects are far less dramatic.
People need to learn to find out whats behind the propeganda.
posted on 27/6/16
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 9 minutes ago
Any government that gave away control of the NHS would be commiting political suicide. I think it is safer outside TTIP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What makes you think that TTIP will not be on the negotiating table when we start negotiating our trade deals with either EU or USA?
A huge part of TTIP is to allow USA corporations access to our closed NHS. If the EU cannot provide that then that part of TTIP will possibly be removed for the EU deal.
Any UK deal WILL still have an NHS clause to allow USA corporations full access to the NHS.
NO NHS, No deal.
As much as you don't want to believe this, it will happen and sooner rather than later.
posted on 27/6/16
Another point to think about is that as the UK has been part of EU for 40 years, we have had no need of trade deal negotiators.
As a consequence of brexit we will require hundreds of trained trade deal negotiators and we have between 12 and 20 with any experience of the type of deals we will need to negotiate.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36628897
This is indeed going to be a very bumpy ride
posted on 27/6/16
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford ... (U17054)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 47 minutes ago
Labour is a joke, these red tories are an embarrassment. This is the time to stick together
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What will they all do when Jezza is reelected? They need to listen to the Membership.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh, the great unwashed should be listened to now?
posted on 27/6/16
The great unwashed put us in this bladdy mess in the first place
posted on 27/6/16
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 3 minutes ago
Another point to think about is that as the UK has been part of EU for 40 years, we have had no need of trade deal negotiators.
As a consequence of brexit we will require hundreds of trained trade deal negotiators and we have between 12 and 20 with any experience of the type of deals we will need to negotiate.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36628897
This is indeed going to be a very bumpy ride
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Based on the discussions on here over the past few days, I would think that 60-80% of our negotiating needs can be filled by ja606 posters.
posted on 27/6/16
Rosso
The book you refer to may have had parts that were about privatising the NHS. The book had more than 1 contributor and Goves contribution was not about the NHS.
We had 92 million pounds worth of exports to the USA by the last set of figures, but no trade deal.
TTiP is just more proof that EU commission is for corporations and not the benefits of ordinary europeans.
This years round of increases in the EU budget has been kept secret like TTiP negotiations.
posted on 27/6/16
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 41 seconds ago
Based on the discussions on here over the past few days, I would think that 60-80% of our negotiating needs can be filled by ja606 posters.
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Oh that's OK then
posted on 27/6/16
So we havn't got any one who can make a trade deal cause its all been done by EU, well they can't be that good at negotiations, oh wait they havn't made a deal with, India China or Australia and it took 9 years to get one with Canada. It's cause they are very good at protectionism, not openness.
posted on 27/6/16
comment by Robben: 1912 (U1145)
posted 6 minutes ago
The great unwashed put us in this bladdy mess in the first place
_________________________
No it was Blair selling us down the river.
posted on 27/6/16
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 4 minutes ago
TTIP for one but that appears to be under threat now.
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That concerns you more than the ongoing privatisation under new labour and this government?
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Normal Labour supporters have a duty to pay their £3 and vote against Corbyn.
If they do not, there is no point whining about another Tory government
posted on 27/6/16
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Robben: 1912 (U1145)
posted 6 minutes ago
The great unwashed put us in this bladdy mess in the first place
_________________________
No it was Blair selling us down the river.
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posted on 27/6/16
Sophy Ridge @SophyRidgeSky 16m16 minutes ago
Things are moving quickly in Tory party. Nominations for leader close THIS THURSDAY, leader in place by September 2
posted on 27/6/16
Sky News @SkyNews 32m32 minutes ago
Pound reaches 31-year low, falling by over 3% on top of 10% plunge seen after #EUref results http://trib.al/7Unzd7t
posted on 27/6/16
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt ... (U11781)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sophy Ridge @SophyRidgeSky 16m16 minutes ago
Things are moving quickly in Tory party. Nominations for leader close THIS THURSDAY, leader in place by September 2
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good news
posted on 27/6/16
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt ... (U11781)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sophy Ridge @SophyRidgeSky 16m16 minutes ago
Things are moving quickly in Tory party. Nominations for leader close THIS THURSDAY, leader in place by September 2
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Good news
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Even if that leader is BJ?
posted on 27/6/16
comment by Ramsey and his people ...... Dot & Peebs people (U10012)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt ... (U11781)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sophy Ridge @SophyRidgeSky 16m16 minutes ago
Things are moving quickly in Tory party. Nominations for leader close THIS THURSDAY, leader in place by September 2
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good news
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Even if that leader is BJ?
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With the country soon to be on its knees, only fitting its leader should be similarly so...
posted on 27/6/16
I do hope the pound value seriously improves in the next few weeks
posted on 27/6/16
A lot of mystic meg politicians on ja606.
posted on 27/6/16
BBC Breaking News @BBCBreaking 43s43 seconds ago
Turkish President Erdogan apologises for downing of Russian jet over Syria in November, Moscow says
Turkey getting nuked in a few hours
posted on 27/6/16
comment by Viva Vela (U17571)
posted 36 seconds ago
A lot of mystic meg politicians on ja606.
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Better mystic, than no facking clue at all.
posted on 27/6/16
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 44 seconds ago
BBC Breaking News @BBCBreaking 43s43 seconds ago
Turkish President Erdogan apologises for downing of Russian jet over Syria in November, Moscow says
Turkey getting nuked in a few hours
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They've admitted it..
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