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comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 30 minutes ago
Euro is £83.00 too, fack sake
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You sure about that mate?
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£0.8297 = 1 Euro

comment by 'Galvino Did Flow' (U10415)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's those losing money on stocks, shares and currency I feel most sorry for.
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comment by 'Galvino Did Flow' (U10415)
posted about a minute ago
It's those losing money on stocks, shares and currency I feel most sorry for.
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Its not just that. Their tax avoidance schemes were protected by the EU.

Why do you think the mega-rich elite of multi millionaires nearly all supported remain. They might have to start paying taxes now.

Biznaz update: Trading in Barclays shares now suspended

UK shares have remained volatile in the wake of the Brexit vote, with trading in Barclays temporarily suspended and airline Easyjet falling more than 16%.
Barclays shares were suspended after falling more 10%, while Royal Bank of Scotland fell nearly 9%.
Easyjet's fall came after the airline said revenues would fall more than expected, partly because of Brexit.

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BREAKING: Deputy Labour leader Tom Watson tells Jeremy Corbyn to resign, after spate of UK shadow cabinet resignations.

Ffs. It might well be over for Jezza now.

Burnham is a bit too disingenuous for me, I think he just follows the tide.

comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 30 minutes ago
Euro is £83.00 too, fack sake
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You sure about that mate?
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£0.8297 = 1 Euro
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Those 2 decimal places make all the difference

Anybody remember "Education, Education, Education". A war cry by Tony Blair in 1997, to put the emphasis on improving the education system?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6564933.stm

Well the beneficiaries of that education system, today's 18-24 year olds don't appear to have learned what a referendum is (or what it's for).

Only 36% bothered to get off their arѕеѕ to vote which would suggest that the education system has failed them and should hang their collective heads in shame.

comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Biznaz update: Trading in Barclays shares now suspended

UK shares have remained volatile in the wake of the Brexit vote, with trading in Barclays temporarily suspended and airline Easyjet falling more than 16%.
Barclays shares were suspended after falling more 10%, while Royal Bank of Scotland fell nearly 9%.
Easyjet's fall came after the airline said revenues would fall more than expected, partly because of Brexit.
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unless sleazyjet and foxtons have seen their business collapse over the weekend, their profit warnings must have been coming already, and brexit is just a handy excuse. in fact i think foxtons have already issued one warning this year.

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 19 seconds ago
Burnham is a bit too disingenuous for me, I think he just follows the tide.
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I think he has a will to unite people, and has friends in the unions.

I'm not his greatest fan, but it's now clear that somehow the Party needs to find a leader who can bring the left together.

Anyone who did not know there would be an immediate impact on our economy after voting out is an idiot.

As I said the other day, Brexit was goingto be a short term impact after which we would start the recovery. Remain would give stability in the short term but at very high cost (our EU contributions, bail outs like £1.7b extra for Greece due now, proping up the new member states economies) and high risk long term of huge payments to prop up the likes of Greece and Spains economies and the Euro....and if the Euro collapsed we would have been facked as well.

It was partly a choice of short term pain for long term ability to unchain us from the anchor of EU finances against short term stability with the rsk of being dragged down by an already shaky EU economy.

comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyone who did not know there would be an immediate impact on our economy after voting out is an idiot.

As I said the other day, Brexit was goingto be a short term impact after which we would start the recovery. Remain would give stability in the short term but at very high cost (our EU contributions, bail outs like £1.7b extra for Greece due now, proping up the new member states economies) and high risk long term of huge payments to prop up the likes of Greece and Spains economies and the Euro....and if the Euro collapsed we would have been facked as well.

It was partly a choice of short term pain for long term ability to unchain us from the anchor of EU finances against short term stability with the rsk of being dragged down by an already shaky EU economy.
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correct.

i would also add that the stock market is not the uk economy, and that stock market losses are not the country's losses - in fact over half of the ownership of the uk stock market is overseas!

And as for the racist/xenophobic card being playerd by the left wing remainers, would you prefer to bring in a well qualified African doctor to work in teh NHS or give priority over a white Polish Sports Direct worker on a zero hours contract who gets priority while we are in teh EU?

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyone who did not know there would be an immediate impact on our economy after voting out is an idiot.

As I said the other day, Brexit was goingto be a short term impact after which we would start the recovery. Remain would give stability in the short term but at very high cost (our EU contributions, bail outs like £1.7b extra for Greece due now, proping up the new member states economies) and high risk long term of huge payments to prop up the likes of Greece and Spains economies and the Euro....and if the Euro collapsed we would have been facked as well.

It was partly a choice of short term pain for long term ability to unchain us from the anchor of EU finances against short term stability with the rsk of being dragged down by an already shaky EU economy.
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correct.

i would also add that the stock market is not the uk economy, and that stock market losses are not the country's losses - in fact over half of the ownership of the uk stock market is overseas!

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True to a large extent however it can be brutal for those who are just about to retire, when their pension income drops 20%+ below what they expected.

comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 5 minutes ago
Anyone who did not know there would be an immediate impact on our economy after voting out is an idiot.

As I said the other day, Brexit was goingto be a short term impact after which we would start the recovery. Remain would give stability in the short term but at very high cost (our EU contributions, bail outs like £1.7b extra for Greece due now, proping up the new member states economies) and high risk long term of huge payments to prop up the likes of Greece and Spains economies and the Euro....and if the Euro collapsed we would have been facked as well.

It was partly a choice of short term pain for long term ability to unchain us from the anchor of EU finances against short term stability with the rsk of being dragged down by an already shaky EU economy.
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Depends what you mean by 'short term'. This isn't going to be over in a matter of weeks.

IoD members are already saying they are expecting to have to make job cuts and freeze medium-term investment plans.

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comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyone who did not know there would be an immediate impact on our economy after voting out is an idiot.

As I said the other day, Brexit was goingto be a short term impact after which we would start the recovery. Remain would give stability in the short term but at very high cost (our EU contributions, bail outs like £1.7b extra for Greece due now, proping up the new member states economies) and high risk long term of huge payments to prop up the likes of Greece and Spains economies and the Euro....and if the Euro collapsed we would have been facked as well.

It was partly a choice of short term pain for long term ability to unchain us from the anchor of EU finances against short term stability with the rsk of being dragged down by an already shaky EU economy.
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correct.

i would also add that the stock market is not the uk economy, and that stock market losses are not the country's losses - in fact over half of the ownership of the uk stock market is overseas!

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True to a large extent however it can be brutal for those who are just about to retire, when their pension income drops 20%+ below what they expected.
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if they're just about to retire they will be invested in fixed income rather than stocks and shares, so they will be much less affected.

though if they were about to retire to the US....

anyway, what has really killed pensioners' savings over the past decade has been ultra low interest rates/QE, which can be blamed on the BOE needing to shore up UK property prices so that the banks don't go bust.

comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 3 minutes ago
Anyone who did not know there would be an immediate impact on our economy after voting out is an idiot.

As I said the other day, Brexit was goingto be a short term impact after which we would start the recovery. Remain would give stability in the short term but at very high cost (our EU contributions, bail outs like £1.7b extra for Greece due now, proping up the new member states economies) and high risk long term of huge payments to prop up the likes of Greece and Spains economies and the Euro....and if the Euro collapsed we would have been facked as well.
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Funny that because the agreements reached last year ensured that non Euro zone countries (which included UK) would never have to contribute to a Euro zone bailout, Greece, Spain or anyone else.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33556085

But by all means keep perpetuating the lies if it makes you feel better. Facts are a wonderful things because they allow people who are willing to do a bit of research to pull your lies apart and prove you are in fact an idiot

Simon Walker, head of the business group the Institute of Directors, says he's "scared" by the impact of Brexit.

Speaking on Radio 4's Today Programme he quotes the Leave economist Patrick Minford who said that Brexit would "mostly eliminate manufacturing" in the UK but that shouldn't scare people.

"Well it scares me," says Mr Walker.

His group has surveyed its 1,000 members and the negativity "surprised me", he adds.

Two-thirds think it is negative for their business, 36% are planning to cut investment, 22% are planning a hiring freeze, while 5% are planning to cut jobs.
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The investment cuts is the bit that worries me in this.

We need British business to be brave now, and to continue to expand into and seek investment from Europe.

comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 8 minutes ago
And as for the racist/xenophobic card being playerd by the left wing remainers, would you prefer to bring in a well qualified African doctor to work in teh NHS or give priority over a white Polish Sports Direct worker on a zero hours contract who gets priority while we are in teh EU?
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Wow, what an interesting way of twisting the facts to support your anti-Polish racist agenda.

Nursing is on the Shortage Occupation List, which means it is a non-EU immigration priority. Unfortunately there is a shortage of nursing staff (which includes doctors, before you try and be funny saying you never mentioned nurses) across EU member states so there are virtually NO nursing staff travelling to UK from elsewhere in EU.

As such most nursing staff come from non EU countries. The problem with that is there is a self imposed cap on non EU immigration (not EU mandated but a UK government cap). This cap stands at 20,700 and covers ALL occupations. Once the cap is reached then any extra applications are refused which is why the UK last year turned away 2,700 qualified nurses.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/adam-hamdy/uk-government-turned-away-2700-nurses_b_10275224.html

Again don't let the facts get in the way of your anti-Polish racist rant will you.

comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 3 minutes ago
Anyone who did not know there would be an immediate impact on our economy after voting out is an idiot.

As I said the other day, Brexit was goingto be a short term impact after which we would start the recovery. Remain would give stability in the short term but at very high cost (our EU contributions, bail outs like £1.7b extra for Greece due now, proping up the new member states economies) and high risk long term of huge payments to prop up the likes of Greece and Spains economies and the Euro....and if the Euro collapsed we would have been facked as well.
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Funny that because the agreements reached last year ensured that non Euro zone countries (which included UK) would never have to contribute to a Euro zone bailout, Greece, Spain or anyone else.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33556085

But by all means keep perpetuating the lies if it makes you feel better. Facts are a wonderful things because they allow people who are willing to do a bit of research to pull your lies apart and prove you are in fact an idiot
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https://fullfact.org/europe/why-uk-being-asked-pay-17-billion-eu/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3237073/Cameron-Osborne-quietly-pay-1-7BILLION-bill-Brussels-dismisses-totally-unacceptable.html

More the fool you.

They said we wouldnt pay it and a deal had been agreed to pay half and then had to pay it all. There is plenty out there to show the full chain of events and not just ignor how it ended like you did.

comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 8 minutes ago
And as for the racist/xenophobic card being playerd by the left wing remainers, would you prefer to bring in a well qualified African doctor to work in teh NHS or give priority over a white Polish Sports Direct worker on a zero hours contract who gets priority while we are in teh EU?
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Wow, what an interesting way of twisting the facts to support your anti-Polish racist agenda.

Nursing is on the Shortage Occupation List, which means it is a non-EU immigration priority. Unfortunately there is a shortage of nursing staff (which includes doctors, before you try and be funny saying you never mentioned nurses) across EU member states so there are virtually NO nursing staff travelling to UK from elsewhere in EU.

As such most nursing staff come from non EU countries. The problem with that is there is a self imposed cap on non EU immigration (not EU mandated but a UK government cap). This cap stands at 20,700 and covers ALL occupations. Once the cap is reached then any extra applications are refused which is why the UK last year turned away 2,700 qualified nurses.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/adam-hamdy/uk-government-turned-away-2700-nurses_b_10275224.html

Again don't let the facts get in the way of your anti-Polish racist rant will you.
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so we're unable to get enough to work in the NHS despite have 330k net migration of mostly unskilled workers... sound like a pretty crap system. Good thing we voted leave