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comment by Calzy(ten years ago she made the coathanger) (U1850)
posted 21 seconds ago
I have no agenda regarding Scotland, I like the place and the people, but I do worry that not everybody is in posession of sufficient information to make their decision.

it'a almost like a real election then?
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Yes, but the ramifications of Scotland leaving the Union will be far, far wider than those occurring when you elect a different governing party, who ultimately just make relatively small changes to an already imperfect system.

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Well obviously. There'd be no point in the referendum if it would just produce the same results as a general election. Some do want a much bigger change, others are just terrified of it.

Brain, what utter sanctimonious pash.

How the feck do you know the level of understanding that is prevalent in Scotland? Just how many people who live in Scotland have you discussed this with?

I think you'll find that Scotland as a whole has never been more politically aware as it is now, with a much greater understanding of politics and the issues surrounding independence than we've ever had.

Who the feck are you to tell us how much we do and do not understand about the issues that we are being asked to vote on ffs?

Fecking arrogant kant.

Do you think it would be good or bad for Scotland Brain ?

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Ivan say what you mean

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"The ramifications of indy are we get to make our own mistakes, and not rely on you to make them for us."

Crux of the two campaigns there. Yes-ers want the responsibility to make our own decisions & our own mistakes, no-ers simply do not want that responsibility & want other people to do it for them.

comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 13 seconds ago
"The ramifications of indy are we get to make our own mistakes, and not rely on you to make them for us."

Crux of the two campaigns there. Yes-ers want the responsibility to make our own decisions & our own mistakes, no-ers simply do not want that responsibility & want other people to do it for them.
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aye right. Do you seriously believe politicians give a monkeys about what he public wants.

Grow up.

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If we're looking to "blame" anyone on the lack of knowledge that Brain obviously feels we have, then we should be looking at the media and their inability to actually investigate the issues and give clear and balanced information to their readership.

David Cameron is interviewed by Nick Robinson, the chief political reporter for the BBC. He asks Cameron will Scotland have new powers in light of a No vote. Dave answers "Yes, and soon". Nick smiles and nods and leaves it at that.

Does someone want to make an argument that this is good journalism? Does someone want to tell me that Robinson shouldn't have maybe followed that up with more questions, pressing the PM into giving a wee bit more detail for the people of Scotland?

The grass roots campaigns in Scotland have been nothing short of magnificent in their ability to investigate some of the claims by both parties and help educate the people of Scotland on the issues.

And then we have kants like Brain coming up telling us we're "too wee, too stupid, too poor" to make this decision.

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comment by Calzy(ten years ago she made the coathanger) (U1850)
posted 1 minute ago
GingerTBH I don't think there's much other stuff left.This is a brilliant threadIt's like a relay for dafties, wi Ie passing on the baton to Brain
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It's no a baton it's a dil do

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