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posted on 26/4/16

"I reckon most on here would say that United have underachieved this season but if we played to the best of our ability, as individuals, we are better than Leicester."

But when have we ever shown that under LVG? It's all well and good having the quality parts (I still think ours is a mixed bag myself) but if you lack someone who can actually put them together and playing to their potential it's rather a redundant point don't you think.

posted on 26/4/16

some people dont read *sigh*, i said a year or two ago, if you read some of my posts I actually praise smalling so don't try all that.
But a couple years ago he was suspect,Robert huth has always been solid, just as a comparison. Blind is average at best, I dont really care that your back four has been the second best defense, you rarely bomb on and get caught out at the back and have de gea and several reasons that contribute to that, and have had a great season defensively. But what was your record defensively last year anyways?

Again martial a couple years ago was unknown, read what I said please, and monaco, where did they get in the CL?


posted on 26/4/16

"Very simple.

If Barca play at their best they will win every game in a season"

Yes but we've all seen Barca play to their best, and regularly so. That isn't the case with United so you can't make that point.

posted on 26/4/16

comment by SouthLondonManc (U12028)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Nickalopodis (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
Diafol Coch 77

What are you judging that on "the best of their ability" and more shame then if utd players dont do that.

You cant even argue that a year ago these leicester players were nobodies because most utds players a year or two ago were nobodies or having mares...martial was unknown,lindgard, rashford, smalling, fosu mensah...I mean you still play players like blind and fellaini(who was really good against everton in fairness)
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Very simple.

If Barca play at their best they will win every game in a season
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Thank you

So the table doesnt lie, leicester would win if they play at their best v utd.

posted on 26/4/16

comment by Nickalopodis (U9257)
posted 56 seconds ago
Diafol Coch 77

What are you judging that on "the best of their ability" and more shame then if utd players dont do that.

You cant even argue that a year ago these leicester players were nobodies because most utds players a year or two ago were nobodies or having mares...martial was unknown,lindgard, rashford, smalling, fosu mensah...I mean you still play players like blind and fellaini(who was really good against everton in fairness)
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United have disappointed this season no doubt about that. The players have to take their fair share of the blame.

I just think that as individuals that United have the better players and to be fair they should have companring the relative spend of the two clubs.

I am not arguing that the Leicester players are nobodies as they are clearly not but it would not be too far from the truth to say they are a team of journeymen with two or three really good players having outstanding seasons.

I am not discrediting them at all and they have done fantastically but I would be surprised if they did this next season. I think they'll do similar to Blackburn back in the 90's following their league win.



posted on 26/4/16

comment by Nickalopodis (U9257)
posted 46 seconds ago
some people dont read *sigh*, i said a year or two ago, if you read some of my posts I actually praise smalling so don't try all that.
But a couple years ago he was suspect,Robert huth has always been solid, just as a comparison. Blind is average at best, I dont really care that your back four has been the second best defense, you rarely bomb on and get caught out at the back and have de gea and several reasons that contribute to that, and have had a great season defensively. But what was your record defensively last year anyways?

Again martial a couple years ago was unknown, read what I said please, and monaco, where did they get in the CL?



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we conceded 37 in the league last season... hardly a horrific amount

posted on 26/4/16

SLM

I do not think we will tonk Leicester. We are perfectly capable of beating them though.

posted on 26/4/16

comment by Robb - Yes way, Jose (U20351)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago

But it's Leicester Dink. A side who know how to defend.

We may win, we may not but only an idiot would say we'll tonk them

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And we do have plenty of idiots on our board.

Only recently one of them was proclaiming how we were going to stuff Villa, despite all the evidence out there that we were struggling to stuff anyone in recent games.

posted on 26/4/16

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 5 minutes ago
"I reckon most on here would say that United have underachieved this season but if we played to the best of our ability, as individuals, we are better than Leicester."

But when have we ever shown that under LVG? It's all well and good having the quality parts (I still think ours is a mixed bag myself) but if you lack someone who can actually put them together and playing to their potential it's rather a redundant point don't you think.
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That's the problem. Barring a few games here and there we haven't looked that good in truth and ultimately that is down to the manager.

Credit must also go to the manager at Leicester as well and if they are so good this year then they themselves must have been underachieving for most of last season.

No doubt about it the best team over the season wins the league but I don't think Leicester will be up there next season. I'm happy to be wrong on that but don't think I will be.

posted on 26/4/16

Diafol

No I don't think Leicester will either. Mainly because I feel integral players will leave this summer and being able to keep up the unity and form into next season will be incredibly hard. Even the bigger sides struggle to retain their title.

My point was that it's a bit redundant to say United have the potential to be this good because we currently don't have a manager who can get the most out of the squad.

posted on 26/4/16

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
Diafol

No I don't think Leicester will either. Mainly because I feel integral players will leave this summer and being able to keep up the unity and form into next season will be incredibly hard. Even the bigger sides struggle to retain their title.

My point was that it's a bit redundant to say United have the potential to be this good because we currently don't have a manager who can get the most out of the squad.
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I agree with you. LVG hasn't, so far, managed to get the best out of this squad. We've seen glimpses but nowhere near enough.

Compare that to Leicester who have been consistent for over a year now and it's clear they are getting the most out of their players.

I still think we should be expecting to beat Leicester at home though even if they are top. I'd expect to beat anyone at home really but accept it won't be easy. It won't be easy for Leicester either though IMO.

posted on 26/4/16

I think we can win it and our home form suggests we do well, but equally Leicester's league position and away form shows why they should be confident too. But like I said if it were City or Chelsea coming 7 points clear and a win away from winning the league I think people would think very differently.

I said last night the Spurs result will probably change Leicester's mood going into our game. Either they'll be freed up and be able to enjoy themselves and play well or they'll know deep down a defeat isn't all that bad. But seeing as their positive attitude has got them this far I think they'll actually go into the game buzzing.

posted on 26/4/16

comment by just plain old Dunc (U11713)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Nickalopodis (U9257)
posted 46 seconds ago
some people dont read *sigh*, i said a year or two ago, if you read some of my posts I actually praise smalling so don't try all that.
But a couple years ago he was suspect,Robert huth has always been solid, just as a comparison. Blind is average at best, I dont really care that your back four has been the second best defense, you rarely bomb on and get caught out at the back and have de gea and several reasons that contribute to that, and have had a great season defensively. But what was your record defensively last year anyways?

Again martial a couple years ago was unknown, read what I said please, and monaco, where did they get in the CL?



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we conceded 37 in the league last season... hardly a horrific amount
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you have a GD of 12 this year man cmon. Playing to ability

posted on 26/4/16

VC
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How can you insult anybody for stating that they expect United to smash Villa?

posted on 26/4/16

I don't think there will more than one goal in this game, if we win it will only be 1-0.

posted on 26/4/16

comment by Nickalopodis (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by just plain old Dunc (U11713)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Nickalopodis (U9257)
posted 46 seconds ago
some people dont read *sigh*, i said a year or two ago, if you read some of my posts I actually praise smalling so don't try all that.
But a couple years ago he was suspect,Robert huth has always been solid, just as a comparison. Blind is average at best, I dont really care that your back four has been the second best defense, you rarely bomb on and get caught out at the back and have de gea and several reasons that contribute to that, and have had a great season defensively. But what was your record defensively last year anyways?

Again martial a couple years ago was unknown, read what I said please, and monaco, where did they get in the CL?



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we conceded 37 in the league last season... hardly a horrific amount
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you have a GD of 12 this year man cmon. Playing to ability
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you didnt ask that though did you.

you said over the last couple of seasons Smalling and Blind havent been very good.

the lack of goals weve conceded suggests that theyve been 2 of our best players over that period.

posted on 26/4/16

comment by SouthLondonManc (U12028)
posted 2 minutes ago
VC
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How can you insult anybody for stating that they expect United to smash Villa?
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Did he do that?

Ah yes VC, Villa and Leicester are the same thing.

posted on 26/4/16

But Blind didn't play CB last season. He has been a lot better this season, maybe partly due to being given 1 role throughout. Last season he was ok.

posted on 26/4/16

comment by SouthLondonManc (U12028)

posted 3 minutes ago

VC
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How can you insult anybody for stating that they expect United to smash Villa?

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Quite easily.

All you had to do is look at our recent results. We had not won any of the previous 10 by more than a goal. Some of those we drew or lost.

posted on 26/4/16

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think we can win it and our home form suggests we do well, but equally Leicester's league position and away form shows why they should be confident too. But like I said if it were City or Chelsea coming 7 points clear and a win away from winning the league I think people would think very differently.

I said last night the Spurs result will probably change Leicester's mood going into our game. Either they'll be freed up and be able to enjoy themselves and play well or they'll know deep down a defeat isn't all that bad. But seeing as their positive attitude has got them this far I think they'll actually go into the game buzzing.
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a large amount of Leicesters success has come from Vardy's ability to run all day and put pressure on the oppositions back 4 when the ball goes forward.

They hit teams on the break and have done so very well nearly all season and they know that every time that ball is cleared forward Vardy will be either on to it or sniffing around and not giving the CB's a minutes peace.

Vardy missing the game gives it a whole new dimension though as Ulloa wont give them that option.

posted on 26/4/16

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 48 seconds ago
But Blind didn't play CB last season. He has been a lot better this season, maybe partly due to being given 1 role throughout. Last season he was ok.
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he didnt play CB all season, but he did have spells at LB and in the DM position which all contributes to that defensive record.

posted on 26/4/16

comment by just plain old Dunc (U11713)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think we can win it and our home form suggests we do well, but equally Leicester's league position and away form shows why they should be confident too. But like I said if it were City or Chelsea coming 7 points clear and a win away from winning the league I think people would think very differently.

I said last night the Spurs result will probably change Leicester's mood going into our game. Either they'll be freed up and be able to enjoy themselves and play well or they'll know deep down a defeat isn't all that bad. But seeing as their positive attitude has got them this far I think they'll actually go into the game buzzing.
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a large amount of Leicesters success has come from Vardy's ability to run all day and put pressure on the oppositions back 4 when the ball goes forward.

They hit teams on the break and have done so very well nearly all season and they know that every time that ball is cleared forward Vardy will be either on to it or sniffing around and not giving the CB's a minutes peace.

Vardy missing the game gives it a whole new dimension though as Ulloa wont give them that option.


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But they did play that way on Sunday. Schlupp was brilliant on the break and Mahrez did his part as well.

posted on 26/4/16

When all is said and done I think we'll beat (not tonk) Leicester on Sunday and they will still go on to win the league.

posted on 26/4/16

Ah yes VC, Villa and Leicester are the same thing.

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What a ridiculous comment.

posted on 26/4/16

comment by just plain old Dunc (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Nickalopodis (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by just plain old Dunc (U11713)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Nickalopodis (U9257)
posted 46 seconds ago
some people dont read *sigh*, i said a year or two ago, if you read some of my posts I actually praise smalling so don't try all that.
But a couple years ago he was suspect,Robert huth has always been solid, just as a comparison. Blind is average at best, I dont really care that your back four has been the second best defense, you rarely bomb on and get caught out at the back and have de gea and several reasons that contribute to that, and have had a great season defensively. But what was your record defensively last year anyways?

Again martial a couple years ago was unknown, read what I said please, and monaco, where did they get in the CL?



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we conceded 37 in the league last season... hardly a horrific amount
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you have a GD of 12 this year man cmon. Playing to ability
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you didnt ask that though did you.

you said over the last couple of seasons Smalling and Blind havent been very good.

the lack of goals weve conceded suggests that theyve been 2 of our best players over that period.
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Again read what I said, i never mentioned over any period of time. I said 1 or 2 years ago. 2 years ago utd came of their worst season in years. Blind is average i dont care what you say, god knows what his position is.

And again the GD and watching utd this year its hard to get caught out at the back when you dont chuck too many players forward.

And still has nothing to address the "ability of players"

This season I would only take martial and maybe de gea over the leicester team, players who could still improve.

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