comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
If Wales went into their shell against England it's because England made them go into their shells. And yet you act like England are as bad as Russia.

Wow
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Remind me how they got on with Russia again?

Wales will likely look as frightened when they play another good side sadly. Hope I'm wrong as I really like Bale

comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
Have tbh and say Wales bottled it against England for whatever reason and played "scared" if they hadn't Wales would have hammered England IMO.

England need to sort themselves out because I really don't see the positives some are highlighting, they have been poor
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They would not be hammered by Wales. If they had been more open it probably would have gone more in England's favour if anything.
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Not a chance. Wales played like an allardyce team against fergies utd.

Same wakes in other matches played with more freedom. TBH I couldn't believe the way they played against england after the hype. Was expecting a thrashing for england.


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So suddenly we're as bad as Russia are?

You don't think you're overrating Wales just a tad? A great result against a poor Russia team who dared to come out their own half, does not make them the tournament favourites.
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Serious question do you think England have been that much better than Russia?

My point is England have been poor and wales played different against them than they did in their other games
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Err yes, we've been much much better than Russia.

We absolutely dominated Wales and reduced Bale to being a passenger. Not sure what on earth you're getting at. Nothing to suggest Wales would hammer England. I don't even believe Germany, Spain and the rest would batter us.

Yeah Wales were poor against England. England should be beating them nine times out of ten, but that wasn't them at their best either.

Croatia look good Ji. I'm assuming Modric was rested rather than injured?

comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 8 seconds ago
Wales will likely look as frightened when they play another good side sadly. Hope I'm wrong as I really like Bale
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Maybe, but it reminds me of allardyce v fergie. Where Sam lost the game before they took to the pitch and wales looked similar.

comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
If Wales went into their shell against England it's because England made them go into their shells. And yet you act like England are as bad as Russia.

Wow
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Remind me how they got on with Russia again

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Was a freak result. England were far better than Russia on the day

comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
Have tbh and say Wales bottled it against England for whatever reason and played "scared" if they hadn't Wales would have hammered England IMO.

England need to sort themselves out because I really don't see the positives some are highlighting, they have been poor
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They would not be hammered by Wales. If they had been more open it probably would have gone more in England's favour if anything.
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Not a chance. Wales played like an allardyce team against fergies utd.

Same wakes in other matches played with more freedom. TBH I couldn't believe the way they played against england after the hype. Was expecting a thrashing for england.


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So suddenly we're as bad as Russia are?

You don't think you're overrating Wales just a tad? A great result against a poor Russia team who dared to come out their own half, does not make them the tournament favourites.
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Serious question do you think England have been that much better than Russia?

My point is England have been poor and wales played different against them than they did in their other games
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Err yes, we've been much much better than Russia.

We absolutely dominated Wales and reduced Bale to being a passenger. Not sure what on earth you're getting at. Nothing to suggest Wales would hammer England. I don't even believe Germany, Spain and the rest would batter us.
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Denial mate. Can't argue with denial

comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
If Wales went into their shell against England it's because England made them go into their shells. And yet you act like England are as bad as Russia.

Wow
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Remind me how they got on with Russia again

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Was a freak result. England were far better than Russia on the day
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England have been unbalanced and woeful in the main. Wales scoring 3 shows that, against russia

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 4 minutes ago
Yeah Wales were poor against England. England should be beating them nine times out of ten, but that wasn't them at their best either.

Croatia look good Ji. I'm assuming Modric was rested rather than injured?
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he was injured, though from what i understand he ought to be back for their next match

Seems to me someone hasn't stopped drinking in celebration of Wales topping the group yet.

comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
If Wales went into their shell against England it's because England made them go into their shells. And yet you act like England are as bad as Russia.

Wow
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Remind me how they got on with Russia again

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Was a freak result. England were far better than Russia on the day
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England have been unbalanced and woeful in the main. Wales scoring 3 shows that, against russia
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England woeful? Riiiiiight. You crazy

comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 4 seconds ago
Seems to me someone hasn't stopped drinking in celebration of Wales topping the group yet.
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Congrats to Wales tbh and them topping the group shows them to be the better team no?

However my concern is that england are not/ have not clicked and it will be over soon unless they get sorted

What I see though is the same old same old hype and overlooking what is obvious when it comes to england by media and fans

Same chit different day/tournie

comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
If Wales went into their shell against England it's because England made them go into their shells. And yet you act like England are as bad as Russia.

Wow
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Remind me how they got on with Russia again

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Was a freak result. England were far better than Russia on the day
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England have been unbalanced and woeful in the main. Wales scoring 3 shows that, against russia
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Russia actually came out of their half and gave Wales licence to attack with space. I imagine part of that is down to Wales not being able to keep the ball as well as England too.

Wales would have equally struggled against a team like Slovakia parking the bus.

comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
If Wales went into their shell against England it's because England made them go into their shells. And yet you act like England are as bad as Russia.

Wow
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Remind me how they got on with Russia again

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Was a freak result. England were far better than Russia on the day
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England have been unbalanced and woeful in the main. Wales scoring 3 shows that, against russia
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England woeful? Riiiiiight. You crazy
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Yup woeful so far.

I'm delighted that Wales played well and won well against Russia but they (Russia) did produce one of the worse defensive displays I've seen last night at this stage of a Euro Championships.

Having said that Wales didn't do themselves justice against England but I thought we'd always struggle that game anyway and England played well on the day to be fair.

England have missed quite a few chances in the games I've seen though so no need to worry yet. The knockout stage does seem unbalanced in a way but hopefully it'll produce a lot of good games.

I'm over the moon Wales got through the group and if we can win one more game then that would be a really great achievement.

comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
If Wales went into their shell against England it's because England made them go into their shells. And yet you act like England are as bad as Russia.

Wow
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Remind me how they got on with Russia again

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Was a freak result. England were far better than Russia on the day
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England have been unbalanced and woeful in the main. Wales scoring 3 shows that, against russia
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England woeful? Riiiiiight. You crazy
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Yup woeful so far.
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If you really think that you're very very stupid

comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
If Wales went into their shell against England it's because England made them go into their shells. And yet you act like England are as bad as Russia.

Wow
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Remind me how they got on with Russia again

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Was a freak result. England were far better than Russia on the day
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England have been unbalanced and woeful in the main. Wales scoring 3 shows that, against russia
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Russia actually came out of their half and gave Wales licence to attack with space. I imagine part of that is down to Wales not being able to keep the ball as well as England too.

Wales would have equally struggled against a team like Slovakia parking the bus.
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England did the same against Wales but Wales looked lost.

comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
If Wales went into their shell against England it's because England made them go into their shells. And yet you act like England are as bad as Russia.

Wow
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Remind me how they got on with Russia again

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Was a freak result. England were far better than Russia on the day
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England have been unbalanced and woeful in the main. Wales scoring 3 shows that, against russia
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England woeful? Riiiiiight. You crazy
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Yup woeful so far.
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If you really think that you're very very stupid
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Thems the facts my Aussie no hoper.

comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 4 seconds ago
Seems to me someone hasn't stopped drinking in celebration of Wales topping the group yet.
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Congrats to Wales tbh and them topping the group shows them to be the better team no?

However my concern is that england are not/ have not clicked and it will be over soon unless they get sorted

What I see though is the same old same old hype and overlooking what is obvious when it comes to england by media and fans

Same chit different day/tournie
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Your line of thought is so simplistic; "Wales beat Russia 3-0 so must be better than England", "Wales topped the group so must be better than England".

It's not as black and white as that at all.

comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
If Wales went into their shell against England it's because England made them go into their shells. And yet you act like England are as bad as Russia.

Wow
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Remind me how they got on with Russia again

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Was a freak result. England were far better than Russia on the day
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England have been unbalanced and woeful in the main. Wales scoring 3 shows that, against russia
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Russia actually came out of their half and gave Wales licence to attack with space. I imagine part of that is down to Wales not being able to keep the ball as well as England too.

Wales would have equally struggled against a team like Slovakia parking the bus.
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England did the same against Wales but Wales looked lost.
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So I guess they ain't that good then?

comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 4 seconds ago
Seems to me someone hasn't stopped drinking in celebration of Wales topping the group yet.
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Congrats to Wales tbh and them topping the group shows them to be the better team no?

However my concern is that england are not/ have not clicked and it will be over soon unless they get sorted

What I see though is the same old same old hype and overlooking what is obvious when it comes to england by media and fans

Same chit different day/tournie
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Your line of thought is so simplistic; "Wales beat Russia 3-0 so must be better than England", "Wales topped the group so must be better than England".

It's not as black and white as that at all.
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Agree

What is black and white is england need to sort themselves out as they have been poor

Russia were desperate for a draw against England and needed to beat Wales. Two totally different games.

England have laboured a bit at times but have been far from woeful. Over three games, you could even say they'd been one the best five teams.

comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
If Wales went into their shell against England it's because England made them go into their shells. And yet you act like England are as bad as Russia.

Wow
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Remind me how they got on with Russia again

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Was a freak result. England were far better than Russia on the day
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England have been unbalanced and woeful in the main. Wales scoring 3 shows that, against russia
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Russia actually came out of their half and gave Wales licence to attack with space. I imagine part of that is down to Wales not being able to keep the ball as well as England too.

Wales would have equally struggled against a team like Slovakia parking the bus.
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England did the same against Wales but Wales looked lost.
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So I guess they ain't that good then?
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No England haven't been that good

comment by Clockwork Red / O vermelho dos relógios (U4892)
posted 40 seconds ago
Russia were desperate for a draw against England and needed to beat Wales. Two totally different games.

England have laboured a bit at times but have been far from woeful. Over three games, you could even say they'd been one the best five teams.
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England scored first. By the logic of Robb and others Russia desperate to score should have resulted in more england goals as space would have appeared

It wasn't like they sat back and played for a nil nil

comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red / O vermelho dos relógios (U4892)
posted 40 seconds ago
Russia were desperate for a draw against England and needed to beat Wales. Two totally different games.

England have laboured a bit at times but have been far from woeful. Over three games, you could even say they'd been one the best five teams.
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England scored first. By the logic of Robb and others Russia desperate to score should have resulted in more england goals as space would have appeared

It wasn't like they sat back and played for a nil nil
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No, Russia were desperate for a draw against England. They actually needed a win against Wales

Please get it right