comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red / O vermelho dos relógios (U4892)
posted 40 seconds ago
Russia were desperate for a draw against England and needed to beat Wales. Two totally different games.
England have laboured a bit at times but have been far from woeful. Over three games, you could even say they'd been one the best five teams.
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England scored first. By the logic of Robb and others Russia desperate to score should have resulted in more england goals as space would have appeared
It wasn't like they sat back and played for a nil nil
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No, Russia were desperate for a draw against England. They actually needed a win against Wales
Please get it right
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Right so they needed a goal against wales so this allowed wales to take advantage of the space created
Yet against england they only needs a draw so sat back?
Flaw is England scored so Russia HAD to score thereby being in exactly the same position as with Wales
Difference being wales exploited the space and scored 3. England got pushed back and Russia scored to draw
Therefore england failed to exploit the space and pull a wales
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 20 seconds ago
I can't really work out how they came up with the knockout stages, it seemed pre weighted in some groups favour anyway.
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Winners of groups A-D will have benefitted by getting the 3rd placed qualifiers.
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There is no logic to it, it is shambolic, which is why they moved on from it at world cups.
a 24 team format simply does not work for so many reasons.
Fans of teams like Albania have to kick their heels and pay a fortune to stick around in France for several days not knowing if they are even going to get another game.
Then of course the lopsided rest days for some teams, England having two days advantage over their next opponent.
And lord knows how anyone can think a team that finishes third in a qualifying group and then third in a tournament group deserves to still be alive in any tournament is beyond me.
Yeah, the 'lucky losers' system sucks.
Germany should of let NI equalise in injury time once they knew the Poland result
There is no logic to it, it is shambolic, which is why they moved on from it at world cups.
a 24 team format simply does not work for so many reasons.
Fans of teams like Albania have to kick their heels and pay a fortune to stick around in France for several days not knowing if they are even going to get another game.
Then of course the lopsided rest days for some teams, England having two days advantage over their next opponent.
And lord knows how anyone can think a team that finishes third in a qualifying group and then third in a tournament group deserves to still be alive in any tournament is beyond me.
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Probably a forerunner to introducing a 32 team tournament.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 16 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by KingP1N (U19240)
posted 1 minute ago
Wale honestly have a very good shot at making the semi-finals
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Their Quarter is potentially Belgium or Portugal. But it could still be Hungary/Iceland or Sweden/Ireland
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Wales Portugal is a mouthwatering tie, bale vs Ronaldo
That could cause unrest in the Madrid dressing room.
Can you imagine Ronaldo if Wales knocked them out.
He would probably spit his dummy and ask for a transfer to psg
England scored first. By the logic of Robb and others Russia desperate to score should have resulted in more england goals as space would have appeared
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Better substitutes and a more confident manager would likely have seen that exact outcome.
The game was crying out for Vardy once we went 1-0 up. Instead, we got Milner.
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 hours, 23 minutes ago
Probably a forerunner to introducing a 32 team tournament.
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There's only 50-odd countries in Europe though. Would make no sense to have a 2-year qualifying process just to eliminate Gibraltar, San Marino & co.
The fact the next tournament's being hosted across a number of countries is an odd one too.
There's some kinds of change afoot, imo, just not sure what it is they have in mind.
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I like the 3rd place thing.
No dead rubbers, always a punchers chance of qualifying going in to the last game.
I like the uncertainty of the draw too. A 3rd place side could be thrown in anywhere depending on the last day results
they sould cut down on qualifying also...let any team who has ever won the Euros in without needing to qualify polus the next highest ranks teams and the hosts up to 16.
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That would mean 2 years of no competitive games between World Cups for the top teams in Europe.
2 years of terrible friendlies <zzzzzzzz>
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posted on 22/6/16
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Redd Foxx (U19849)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red / O vermelho dos relógios (U4892)
posted 40 seconds ago
Russia were desperate for a draw against England and needed to beat Wales. Two totally different games.
England have laboured a bit at times but have been far from woeful. Over three games, you could even say they'd been one the best five teams.
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England scored first. By the logic of Robb and others Russia desperate to score should have resulted in more england goals as space would have appeared
It wasn't like they sat back and played for a nil nil
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No, Russia were desperate for a draw against England. They actually needed a win against Wales
Please get it right
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Right so they needed a goal against wales so this allowed wales to take advantage of the space created
Yet against england they only needs a draw so sat back?
Flaw is England scored so Russia HAD to score thereby being in exactly the same position as with Wales
Difference being wales exploited the space and scored 3. England got pushed back and Russia scored to draw
Therefore england failed to exploit the space and pull a wales
posted on 22/6/16
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 20 seconds ago
I can't really work out how they came up with the knockout stages, it seemed pre weighted in some groups favour anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Winners of groups A-D will have benefitted by getting the 3rd placed qualifiers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is no logic to it, it is shambolic, which is why they moved on from it at world cups.
a 24 team format simply does not work for so many reasons.
Fans of teams like Albania have to kick their heels and pay a fortune to stick around in France for several days not knowing if they are even going to get another game.
Then of course the lopsided rest days for some teams, England having two days advantage over their next opponent.
And lord knows how anyone can think a team that finishes third in a qualifying group and then third in a tournament group deserves to still be alive in any tournament is beyond me.
posted on 22/6/16
Yeah, the 'lucky losers' system sucks.
posted on 22/6/16
Germany should of let NI equalise in injury time once they knew the Poland result
posted on 22/6/16
There is no logic to it, it is shambolic, which is why they moved on from it at world cups.
a 24 team format simply does not work for so many reasons.
Fans of teams like Albania have to kick their heels and pay a fortune to stick around in France for several days not knowing if they are even going to get another game.
Then of course the lopsided rest days for some teams, England having two days advantage over their next opponent.
And lord knows how anyone can think a team that finishes third in a qualifying group and then third in a tournament group deserves to still be alive in any tournament is beyond me.
--------------
Probably a forerunner to introducing a 32 team tournament.
posted on 22/6/16
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 16 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by KingP1N (U19240)
posted 1 minute ago
Wale honestly have a very good shot at making the semi-finals
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Their Quarter is potentially Belgium or Portugal. But it could still be Hungary/Iceland or Sweden/Ireland
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Wales Portugal is a mouthwatering tie, bale vs Ronaldo
That could cause unrest in the Madrid dressing room.
Can you imagine Ronaldo if Wales knocked them out.
He would probably spit his dummy and ask for a transfer to psg
posted on 22/6/16
England scored first. By the logic of Robb and others Russia desperate to score should have resulted in more england goals as space would have appeared
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Better substitutes and a more confident manager would likely have seen that exact outcome.
The game was crying out for Vardy once we went 1-0 up. Instead, we got Milner.
posted on 22/6/16
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 hours, 23 minutes ago
Probably a forerunner to introducing a 32 team tournament.
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There's only 50-odd countries in Europe though. Would make no sense to have a 2-year qualifying process just to eliminate Gibraltar, San Marino & co.
The fact the next tournament's being hosted across a number of countries is an odd one too.
There's some kinds of change afoot, imo, just not sure what it is they have in mind.
posted on 22/6/16
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 23/6/16
I like the 3rd place thing.
No dead rubbers, always a punchers chance of qualifying going in to the last game.
I like the uncertainty of the draw too. A 3rd place side could be thrown in anywhere depending on the last day results
posted on 23/6/16
they sould cut down on qualifying also...let any team who has ever won the Euros in without needing to qualify polus the next highest ranks teams and the hosts up to 16.
----
That would mean 2 years of no competitive games between World Cups for the top teams in Europe.
2 years of terrible friendlies <zzzzzzzz>
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