I'll be forever appreciative of the CITB and YTS scheme, yes sone employers exploited it, used it for cheap labour but most didn't and the training I got has stood me in great stead for the rest of my days. I would like to think there are young adults out there who would accept the equivalent of £27.50 - £35 pw for the. Firat 2 years in exchange for an apprenticeship but I have my doubts.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 35 seconds ago
I'll be forever appreciative of the CITB and YTS scheme, yes sone employers exploited it, used it for cheap labour but most didn't and the training I got has stood me in great stead for the rest of my days. I would like to think there are young adults out there who would accept the equivalent of £27.50 - £35 pw for the. Firat 2 years in exchange for an apprenticeship but I have my doubts.
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I dunno Hector, I’ve had a number of apprentices. Just like anyone other member of staff, some are excellent and genuinely want to learn, and some aren’t.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 seconds ago
I'll be forever appreciative of the CITB and YTS scheme, yes sone employers exploited it, used it for cheap labour but most didn't and the training I got has stood me in great stead for the rest of my days. I would like to think there are young adults out there who would accept the equivalent of £27.50 - £35 pw for the. Firat 2 years in exchange for an apprenticeship but I have my doubts.
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My start was the YOP when I was a teenager at £16 a week. Around6 half of what my mates were earning doing things like bread deliveries, working in a butcher shop and one on the railways
No idea what that equates to today but likewise I can’t see any youngster going for it at that level.
We start our apprentices at between £28-32k plus training costs and due to the nature of most of the jobs, a vehicle.
That is excellent Ginger. Tier 1 contractors are paying graduates with 1st class degrees less than that at times.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 16 minutes ago
Luigi Magione's lawyer has filed a motion for unlawfully obtained evidence. Apparently the police didn't read him his rights when they first detained him and they took his backpack out of sight to unpack and repack it. They then didn't claim to find the evidence in the backpack until at the station.
If this motion passes, all the evidence the police found will be inadmissible.
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I am still struggling to believe that we’ll ever see Luigi testify publicly in an open court.
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 25 minutes ago
Nah Pawl only talks about Starmer
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He's the leader of this country and therefore should be comfortably the most debated person on here.
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So why have you talked about him a lot less since he became PM
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Because everytime I've had a look at this article in recent months it's been Trump and Gaza which although important shouldn't grab all the attention.
Yesterday was a great example. The heating bills of GB folk went up again and it didn't cause a ripple on what is supposed to be a politics thread!!?
Although Starmer didn't do it because he wanted to fair play to him for cutting the foreign aid budget. This country is facing a cost of living crisis and we should put our own house in order before trying to solve the world's problems.
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’... (U6374)
posted 14 seconds ago
That is excellent Ginger. Tier 1 contractors are paying graduates with 1st class degrees less than that at times.
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It’s the cost of trying to capture loyalty to be honest. If they do what we need,then we need to pay them properly. After their 3 years they are gradually moved up to circa £45k per annum which is a fair whack for someone aged around 24 on average and it’s only by then they start to provide a return and at least wash their faces so to speak.
After that it’s up to them what they can earn but the cost of going into the market and poaching someone decent is ridiculous now and they often come with some form of baggage.
Hey ho. It’s been working for a decent number of years now so all good so far.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’... (U6374)
posted 14 seconds ago
That is excellent Ginger. Tier 1 contractors are paying graduates with 1st class degrees less than that at times.
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It’s the cost of trying to capture loyalty to be honest. If they do what we need,then we need to pay them properly. After their 3 years they are gradually moved up to circa £45k per annum which is a fair whack for someone aged around 24 on average and it’s only by then they start to provide a return and at least wash their faces so to speak.
After that it’s up to them what they can earn but the cost of going into the market and poaching someone decent is ridiculous now and they often come with some form of baggage.
Hey ho. It’s been working for a decent number of years now so all good so far.
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I’m glad. It’s weird because everyone knows ‘Pay peanuts….’ and yet I deal with dozens of employers who don’t heed it.
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’... (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’... (U6374)
posted 14 seconds ago
That is excellent Ginger. Tier 1 contractors are paying graduates with 1st class degrees less than that at times.
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It’s the cost of trying to capture loyalty to be honest. If they do what we need,then we need to pay them properly. After their 3 years they are gradually moved up to circa £45k per annum which is a fair whack for someone aged around 24 on average and it’s only by then they start to provide a return and at least wash their faces so to speak.
After that it’s up to them what they can earn but the cost of going into the market and poaching someone decent is ridiculous now and they often come with some form of baggage.
Hey ho. It’s been working for a decent number of years now so all good so far.
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I’m glad. It’s weird because everyone knows ‘Pay peanuts….’ and yet I deal with dozens of employers who don’t heed it.
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It would be interesting to see what their staff turnover was like. Ours understandably is the lowest in our industry and way below the average.
We need our people to develop relationships with customers and that can’t be achieved through short termism. And that’s before you even try to calculate the disruption when someone leaves.
We never lose people to competitors and it’s more likely they go out on their own or join one of our approved installers which isn’t often thankfully. Most times they become great customers in turn.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 seconds ago
I'll be forever appreciative of the CITB and YTS scheme, yes sone employers exploited it, used it for cheap labour but most didn't and the training I got has stood me in great stead for the rest of my days. I would like to think there are young adults out there who would accept the equivalent of £27.50 - £35 pw for the. Firat 2 years in exchange for an apprenticeship but I have my doubts.
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My start was the YOP when I was a teenager at £16 a week. Around6 half of what my mates were earning doing things like bread deliveries, working in a butcher shop and one on the railways
No idea what that equates to today but likewise I can’t see any youngster going for it at that level.
We start our apprentices at between £28-32k plus training costs and due to the nature of most of the jobs, a vehicle.
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That's decent.
I checked, my £27.50 would be just under £100 today, not really comparible.
I did get 40+ weeks of block release training and a free toolbag full of brand tools, Inc a Yankee screwdriver (look it up kids ).
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 seconds ago
I'll be forever appreciative of the CITB and YTS scheme, yes sone employers exploited it, used it for cheap labour but most didn't and the training I got has stood me in great stead for the rest of my days. I would like to think there are young adults out there who would accept the equivalent of £27.50 - £35 pw for the. Firat 2 years in exchange for an apprenticeship but I have my doubts.
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My start was the YOP when I was a teenager at £16 a week. Around6 half of what my mates were earning doing things like bread deliveries, working in a butcher shop and one on the railways
No idea what that equates to today but likewise I can’t see any youngster going for it at that level.
We start our apprentices at between £28-32k plus training costs and due to the nature of most of the jobs, a vehicle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's decent.
I checked, my £27.50 would be just under £100 today, not really comparible.
I did get 40+ weeks of block release training and a free toolbag full of brand tools, Inc a Yankee screwdriver (look it up kids).
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My fools were a draft board, sliding parallel motion and adjustable set square
Rotring pens 0.1-0.7mm
fools ? Appropriate I suppose.
*tools
When I started work in 1998 I was on £35 per week. They put it up to £45 when they realised I had to pay my bus fare each way from that.
But they gave me a great learning and opened doors that I may not have had available to me otherwise.
My first job was in a Sommerfield supermarket on a Sunday for £1.97 an hour.
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted 52 seconds ago
My first job was in a Sommerfield supermarket on a Sunday for £1.97 an hour.
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Sommerfield
Damn what a memory, loved that supermarket as a kid
Was Gateway, then Sommerfield and now Co-Op.
The irony being, you wouldn't be able to buy anything in there for less than £1.97 nowadays.
My first job was in a factory heat treating drill bits. £5.80 an hour over the summer. No tax as I was a student. Felt really rich at the time.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dr Mamba Luther King (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
How much would it cost to offshore 50,000 people per year? How many billions per year would be sent on that? You're literally better off giving them a job and making them pay taxes.
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We don’t have 50,000 unskilled jobs a year available
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There are approx 1.5m cleaners in this country alone.Most jobs are unskilled.
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I think he means there aren’t 50,000 unskilled vacancies in the country.
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There are far more. Cleaners tend to be older demographic and they retire/quit motsly not replaced. Its not a vocation that is attractive to the indengious population. There are always vacanacies in unskilled sectors. Social care for example is teetering because of a lack of workers.
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Geniusnuts never comes across facts that disagree with his preferred narrative because he lives in a bubble.
He's solution for everything is giving rich people everything they want so they can give everyone else a job. Genius.
comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted less than a minute ago
Who remembers Safeway
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Kwik Save as well.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted less than a minute ago
Who remembers Safeway
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Kwik Save as well.
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Bejam (now Iceland)
Robert Greigs
comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted 52 minutes ago
I’m in training to be a driving instructor and it’s set me back about £3k and counting so far
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in love an instructor like you, Arab, be sticking your head out the window and screaming 'Tory nonce' at anyone cutting into your student's lane.
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posted on 26/2/25
I'll be forever appreciative of the CITB and YTS scheme, yes sone employers exploited it, used it for cheap labour but most didn't and the training I got has stood me in great stead for the rest of my days. I would like to think there are young adults out there who would accept the equivalent of £27.50 - £35 pw for the. Firat 2 years in exchange for an apprenticeship but I have my doubts.
posted on 26/2/25
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 35 seconds ago
I'll be forever appreciative of the CITB and YTS scheme, yes sone employers exploited it, used it for cheap labour but most didn't and the training I got has stood me in great stead for the rest of my days. I would like to think there are young adults out there who would accept the equivalent of £27.50 - £35 pw for the. Firat 2 years in exchange for an apprenticeship but I have my doubts.
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I dunno Hector, I’ve had a number of apprentices. Just like anyone other member of staff, some are excellent and genuinely want to learn, and some aren’t.
posted on 26/2/25
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 seconds ago
I'll be forever appreciative of the CITB and YTS scheme, yes sone employers exploited it, used it for cheap labour but most didn't and the training I got has stood me in great stead for the rest of my days. I would like to think there are young adults out there who would accept the equivalent of £27.50 - £35 pw for the. Firat 2 years in exchange for an apprenticeship but I have my doubts.
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My start was the YOP when I was a teenager at £16 a week. Around6 half of what my mates were earning doing things like bread deliveries, working in a butcher shop and one on the railways
No idea what that equates to today but likewise I can’t see any youngster going for it at that level.
We start our apprentices at between £28-32k plus training costs and due to the nature of most of the jobs, a vehicle.
posted on 26/2/25
That is excellent Ginger. Tier 1 contractors are paying graduates with 1st class degrees less than that at times.
posted on 26/2/25
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 16 minutes ago
Luigi Magione's lawyer has filed a motion for unlawfully obtained evidence. Apparently the police didn't read him his rights when they first detained him and they took his backpack out of sight to unpack and repack it. They then didn't claim to find the evidence in the backpack until at the station.
If this motion passes, all the evidence the police found will be inadmissible.
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I am still struggling to believe that we’ll ever see Luigi testify publicly in an open court.
posted on 26/2/25
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 25 minutes ago
Nah Pawl only talks about Starmer
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He's the leader of this country and therefore should be comfortably the most debated person on here.
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So why have you talked about him a lot less since he became PM
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Because everytime I've had a look at this article in recent months it's been Trump and Gaza which although important shouldn't grab all the attention.
Yesterday was a great example. The heating bills of GB folk went up again and it didn't cause a ripple on what is supposed to be a politics thread!!?
Although Starmer didn't do it because he wanted to fair play to him for cutting the foreign aid budget. This country is facing a cost of living crisis and we should put our own house in order before trying to solve the world's problems.
posted on 26/2/25
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’... (U6374)
posted 14 seconds ago
That is excellent Ginger. Tier 1 contractors are paying graduates with 1st class degrees less than that at times.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s the cost of trying to capture loyalty to be honest. If they do what we need,then we need to pay them properly. After their 3 years they are gradually moved up to circa £45k per annum which is a fair whack for someone aged around 24 on average and it’s only by then they start to provide a return and at least wash their faces so to speak.
After that it’s up to them what they can earn but the cost of going into the market and poaching someone decent is ridiculous now and they often come with some form of baggage.
Hey ho. It’s been working for a decent number of years now so all good so far.
posted on 26/2/25
Pull that ladder up
posted on 26/2/25
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’... (U6374)
posted 14 seconds ago
That is excellent Ginger. Tier 1 contractors are paying graduates with 1st class degrees less than that at times.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s the cost of trying to capture loyalty to be honest. If they do what we need,then we need to pay them properly. After their 3 years they are gradually moved up to circa £45k per annum which is a fair whack for someone aged around 24 on average and it’s only by then they start to provide a return and at least wash their faces so to speak.
After that it’s up to them what they can earn but the cost of going into the market and poaching someone decent is ridiculous now and they often come with some form of baggage.
Hey ho. It’s been working for a decent number of years now so all good so far.
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I’m glad. It’s weird because everyone knows ‘Pay peanuts….’ and yet I deal with dozens of employers who don’t heed it.
posted on 26/2/25
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’... (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’... (U6374)
posted 14 seconds ago
That is excellent Ginger. Tier 1 contractors are paying graduates with 1st class degrees less than that at times.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s the cost of trying to capture loyalty to be honest. If they do what we need,then we need to pay them properly. After their 3 years they are gradually moved up to circa £45k per annum which is a fair whack for someone aged around 24 on average and it’s only by then they start to provide a return and at least wash their faces so to speak.
After that it’s up to them what they can earn but the cost of going into the market and poaching someone decent is ridiculous now and they often come with some form of baggage.
Hey ho. It’s been working for a decent number of years now so all good so far.
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I’m glad. It’s weird because everyone knows ‘Pay peanuts….’ and yet I deal with dozens of employers who don’t heed it.
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It would be interesting to see what their staff turnover was like. Ours understandably is the lowest in our industry and way below the average.
We need our people to develop relationships with customers and that can’t be achieved through short termism. And that’s before you even try to calculate the disruption when someone leaves.
We never lose people to competitors and it’s more likely they go out on their own or join one of our approved installers which isn’t often thankfully. Most times they become great customers in turn.
posted on 26/2/25
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 seconds ago
I'll be forever appreciative of the CITB and YTS scheme, yes sone employers exploited it, used it for cheap labour but most didn't and the training I got has stood me in great stead for the rest of my days. I would like to think there are young adults out there who would accept the equivalent of £27.50 - £35 pw for the. Firat 2 years in exchange for an apprenticeship but I have my doubts.
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My start was the YOP when I was a teenager at £16 a week. Around6 half of what my mates were earning doing things like bread deliveries, working in a butcher shop and one on the railways
No idea what that equates to today but likewise I can’t see any youngster going for it at that level.
We start our apprentices at between £28-32k plus training costs and due to the nature of most of the jobs, a vehicle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's decent.
I checked, my £27.50 would be just under £100 today, not really comparible.
I did get 40+ weeks of block release training and a free toolbag full of brand tools, Inc a Yankee screwdriver (look it up kids ).
posted on 26/2/25
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 seconds ago
I'll be forever appreciative of the CITB and YTS scheme, yes sone employers exploited it, used it for cheap labour but most didn't and the training I got has stood me in great stead for the rest of my days. I would like to think there are young adults out there who would accept the equivalent of £27.50 - £35 pw for the. Firat 2 years in exchange for an apprenticeship but I have my doubts.
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My start was the YOP when I was a teenager at £16 a week. Around6 half of what my mates were earning doing things like bread deliveries, working in a butcher shop and one on the railways
No idea what that equates to today but likewise I can’t see any youngster going for it at that level.
We start our apprentices at between £28-32k plus training costs and due to the nature of most of the jobs, a vehicle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's decent.
I checked, my £27.50 would be just under £100 today, not really comparible.
I did get 40+ weeks of block release training and a free toolbag full of brand tools, Inc a Yankee screwdriver (look it up kids).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My fools were a draft board, sliding parallel motion and adjustable set square
Rotring pens 0.1-0.7mm
posted on 26/2/25
fools ? Appropriate I suppose.
*tools
posted on 26/2/25
Can I woke for you Ginge
posted on 26/2/25
Work*
posted on 26/2/25
When I started work in 1998 I was on £35 per week. They put it up to £45 when they realised I had to pay my bus fare each way from that.
But they gave me a great learning and opened doors that I may not have had available to me otherwise.
posted on 26/2/25
My first job was in a Sommerfield supermarket on a Sunday for £1.97 an hour.
posted on 26/2/25
comment by Robbing Hoody - I call everything I don’t like woke (U6374)
posted 52 seconds ago
My first job was in a Sommerfield supermarket on a Sunday for £1.97 an hour.
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Sommerfield
Damn what a memory, loved that supermarket as a kid
posted on 26/2/25
Was Gateway, then Sommerfield and now Co-Op.
The irony being, you wouldn't be able to buy anything in there for less than £1.97 nowadays.
posted on 26/2/25
My first job was in a factory heat treating drill bits. £5.80 an hour over the summer. No tax as I was a student. Felt really rich at the time.
posted on 26/2/25
Who remembers Safeway
posted on 26/2/25
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dr Mamba Luther King (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
How much would it cost to offshore 50,000 people per year? How many billions per year would be sent on that? You're literally better off giving them a job and making them pay taxes.
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We don’t have 50,000 unskilled jobs a year available
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There are approx 1.5m cleaners in this country alone.Most jobs are unskilled.
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I think he means there aren’t 50,000 unskilled vacancies in the country.
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There are far more. Cleaners tend to be older demographic and they retire/quit motsly not replaced. Its not a vocation that is attractive to the indengious population. There are always vacanacies in unskilled sectors. Social care for example is teetering because of a lack of workers.
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Geniusnuts never comes across facts that disagree with his preferred narrative because he lives in a bubble.
He's solution for everything is giving rich people everything they want so they can give everyone else a job. Genius.
posted on 26/2/25
comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted less than a minute ago
Who remembers Safeway
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Kwik Save as well.
posted on 26/2/25
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted less than a minute ago
Who remembers Safeway
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Kwik Save as well.
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Bejam (now Iceland)
Robert Greigs
posted on 26/2/25
comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted 52 minutes ago
I’m in training to be a driving instructor and it’s set me back about £3k and counting so far
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in love an instructor like you, Arab, be sticking your head out the window and screaming 'Tory nonce' at anyone cutting into your student's lane.
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