comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
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Honestly, you’ve completely lost me.
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You're not the only one. The idea of a US exporter moving their base to the UK because of lower tarrifs makes no sense. I'm not sure why anyone would make a business decision to put long term investment into something Trump seems to change his mind over regularly.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
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Its could all be deemed illegal which would be even larger mess because legally the US goverment would have to pay back all tariffs they have already collected. I doubt business will lower their prices so could lead to even higher inflation.
The deals already done have some stability going forward.
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Trump's goal is to bring manufacturing back to the US, not to shift it to the UK. The EU has higher tarrifs because of the trade deficit, if the UK starts exporting more then the UK will get higher tarrifs.
There's no stability in that.
comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
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Honestly, you’ve completely lost me.
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You're not the only one. The idea of a US exporter moving their base to the UK because of lower tariffs makes no sense. I'm not sure why anyone would make a business decision to put long term investment into something Trump seems to change his mind over regularly.
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Trump ratchets up the rhetoric when countries don't have a deal. But he is not pulling any deals that have already been concluded and signed.
And businesses are making decisions based on those that are signed. They have to or incur costs. Of course corporations are reducing investment until the lay of the land is more settled. And that may take a new administration. But you have to understand that no new president is going to rewind any income stream when its established.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
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Honestly, you’ve completely lost me.
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You're not the only one. The idea of a US exporter moving their base to the UK because of lower tariffs makes no sense. I'm not sure why anyone would make a business decision to put long term investment into something Trump seems to change his mind over regularly.
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Trump ratchets up the rhetoric when countries don't have a deal. But he is not pulling any deals that have already been concluded and signed.
And businesses are making decisions based on those that are signed. They have to or incur costs. Of course corporations are reducing investment until the lay of the land is more settled. And that may take a new administration. But you have to understand that no new president is going to rewind any income stream when its established.
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USMCA?
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
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Honestly, you’ve completely lost me.
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You're not the only one. The idea of a US exporter moving their base to the UK because of lower tariffs makes no sense. I'm not sure why anyone would make a business decision to put long term investment into something Trump seems to change his mind over regularly.
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Trump ratchets up the rhetoric when countries don't have a deal. But he is not pulling any deals that have already been concluded and signed.
And businesses are making decisions based on those that are signed. They have to or incur costs. Of course corporations are reducing investment until the lay of the land is more settled. And that may take a new administration. But you have to understand that no new president is going to rewind any income stream when its established.
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USMCA?
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Should have said his 'new' agreements.
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 43 minutes ago
"UK does not far off ten times as much trade, across many more sectors, with the EU"
From that statement. As if UK doesn't do any trade with EU under TCA and new "common understanding" being negotiated with Labour.
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Honestly, you’ve completely lost me.
My comment literally states that the UK does nearly ten times as much trade with the EU as with India. And of course we are more closely aligned in terms of standards with the EU than with India. That doesn’t mean that negotiating necessarily becomes easier.
We’re talking about many more sectors, many many more regulations and technicalities, many more peripheral related issues and trade-offs, and a much greater degree of political complexity and sensitivity.
It the difference between “build me a combustion engine for a go-kart” and “take this Formula One engine and make it perform better”. The first may look like a bigger job because you’re starting more or less from scratch. But the degrees of complexity cannot be compared.
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So you are still skipping over my point.
"And of course we are more closely aligned in terms of standards "
That is an understatement.
UK and EU are mostly aligned on all sectors. They are not starting from scratch. UK has almost changed nothing from when it was part of the EU.
And if I was to take your F1 analogy. UK has last year's engine, but until the EU changes wholesale rules, that engine is pretty much the same as the others when it was racing. Full divergence can take decades.
Seriously, why do you think Starmer was able to negotiate a new skeleton outline of a 'common understanding' deal so quickly? And that will continue to develop. UK is not going to rejoin the EU.
And as for member states setting up political roadblocks. There is a common enemy at the moment, wrecking European economies. Necessity beats grandstanding. That's why the India/UK deal was wrapped up in 3 years and not 15 as normal.
15 years? USMCA took 1 year.
Original NAFTA took 4 years.
Which trade agreements have taken 15 years?
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 42 seconds ago
15 years? USMCA took 1 year.
Original NAFTA took 4 years.
Which trade agreements have taken 15 years?
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I was being hyperbolic? CETA took 8 years.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 42 seconds ago
15 years? USMCA took 1 year.
Original NAFTA took 4 years.
Which trade agreements have taken 15 years?
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I was being hyperbolic? CETA took 8 years.
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Maybe because the EU needed a unanimous vote.
And some minor county in Belgium wasted at least 6 months.
But I didn't ask about 8 years.
Which have taken 15 years.
And did UK ever return to negotiations with Canada after walking out a couple of years ago?
https://x.com/redcollectiveuk/status/1952077485895565330?s=61&t=ncpdEcJLIN1zPASIYpgYDA
To get 300,000 people on this march on such a nasty, rainy cold day was such a message sent to Israel. I hope every major city in the world repeats that
Those protests outside the hotels in England look like some of the cringiest things ever seen. A bunch of jobless, toothless racists wanting to break in and bash a bunch of people for no other reason than GB News told them to do it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy98l9j913vo
When you have stories like this, you are unfortunately going to get bad faith actors using it to shout cover up and PROTECT ARE GURLS
Unfortunately the govt lost this argument the moment they tried to beat Reform from the right, they will never stop the boats and moving away from asylum hotels is taking too long
Returns and deportations - up.
National Crime Agency staff- up. (Dept of anti- people smuggling gang).
Border agency budget - up £100m
Border agency targeting san papiers employers.
1-for-1 deal with France.
Yeah but but but...
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 9 minutes ago
Returns and deportations - up.
National Crime Agency staff- up. (Dept of anti- people smuggling gang).
Border agency budget - up £100m
Border agency targeting san papiers employers.
1-for-1 deal with France.
Yeah but but but...
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Reform +2
You could rid the country of every asylum seeker tomorrow, rip them from their beds, shackle them and march them barefoot onto planes and Reform would still be propogandizing that we have open borders, offering brown people fortunes and luxury hotels.
Reform would say "too little too late" "finally twotierkeir has bowed to public pressure"
And of course
"There are still too many different languages being spoken at Tesco"
My neighbour still speaks foreign...well...Essex.
Is your neighbour Tom Skinner?
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 36 minutes ago
Is your neighbour Tom Skinner?
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She's actually a very nice old lady thats 100 at the end of the month.She's actually a very nice old lady thats 100 at the end of the month...paaaarty!
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 36 minutes ago
Is your neighbour Tom Skinner?
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She's actually a very nice old lady thats 100 at the end of the month.She's actually a very nice old lady thats 100 at the end of the month...paaaarty!
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Like NYC. So nice you have to say it twice.
She'll get a telegram from the king
RIP James Whale as far as fascist wannabe talk radio shock jocks go; he was my favourite
comment by Robb Cunha (U22716)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
Those protests outside the hotels in England look like some of the cringiest things ever seen. A bunch of jobless, toothless racists wanting to break in and bash a bunch of people for no other reason than GB News told them to do it.
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So the people protesting about illegal immigrants are toothless layabouts, and the 300k that turned up to protest about Palestine are hardworking heroes?
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
RIP James Whale as far as fascist wannabe talk radio shock jocks go; he was my favourite
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RIP.
He fought that disease for a long time.
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posted on 3/8/25
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
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Honestly, you’ve completely lost me.
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You're not the only one. The idea of a US exporter moving their base to the UK because of lower tarrifs makes no sense. I'm not sure why anyone would make a business decision to put long term investment into something Trump seems to change his mind over regularly.
posted on 3/8/25
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
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Its could all be deemed illegal which would be even larger mess because legally the US goverment would have to pay back all tariffs they have already collected. I doubt business will lower their prices so could lead to even higher inflation.
The deals already done have some stability going forward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trump's goal is to bring manufacturing back to the US, not to shift it to the UK. The EU has higher tarrifs because of the trade deficit, if the UK starts exporting more then the UK will get higher tarrifs.
There's no stability in that.
posted on 3/8/25
comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
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Honestly, you’ve completely lost me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're not the only one. The idea of a US exporter moving their base to the UK because of lower tariffs makes no sense. I'm not sure why anyone would make a business decision to put long term investment into something Trump seems to change his mind over regularly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trump ratchets up the rhetoric when countries don't have a deal. But he is not pulling any deals that have already been concluded and signed.
And businesses are making decisions based on those that are signed. They have to or incur costs. Of course corporations are reducing investment until the lay of the land is more settled. And that may take a new administration. But you have to understand that no new president is going to rewind any income stream when its established.
posted on 3/8/25
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
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Honestly, you’ve completely lost me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're not the only one. The idea of a US exporter moving their base to the UK because of lower tariffs makes no sense. I'm not sure why anyone would make a business decision to put long term investment into something Trump seems to change his mind over regularly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trump ratchets up the rhetoric when countries don't have a deal. But he is not pulling any deals that have already been concluded and signed.
And businesses are making decisions based on those that are signed. They have to or incur costs. Of course corporations are reducing investment until the lay of the land is more settled. And that may take a new administration. But you have to understand that no new president is going to rewind any income stream when its established.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
USMCA?
posted on 3/8/25
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
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Honestly, you’ve completely lost me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're not the only one. The idea of a US exporter moving their base to the UK because of lower tariffs makes no sense. I'm not sure why anyone would make a business decision to put long term investment into something Trump seems to change his mind over regularly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trump ratchets up the rhetoric when countries don't have a deal. But he is not pulling any deals that have already been concluded and signed.
And businesses are making decisions based on those that are signed. They have to or incur costs. Of course corporations are reducing investment until the lay of the land is more settled. And that may take a new administration. But you have to understand that no new president is going to rewind any income stream when its established.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
USMCA?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Should have said his 'new' agreements.
posted on 3/8/25
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 43 minutes ago
"UK does not far off ten times as much trade, across many more sectors, with the EU"
From that statement. As if UK doesn't do any trade with EU under TCA and new "common understanding" being negotiated with Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Honestly, you’ve completely lost me.
My comment literally states that the UK does nearly ten times as much trade with the EU as with India. And of course we are more closely aligned in terms of standards with the EU than with India. That doesn’t mean that negotiating necessarily becomes easier.
We’re talking about many more sectors, many many more regulations and technicalities, many more peripheral related issues and trade-offs, and a much greater degree of political complexity and sensitivity.
It the difference between “build me a combustion engine for a go-kart” and “take this Formula One engine and make it perform better”. The first may look like a bigger job because you’re starting more or less from scratch. But the degrees of complexity cannot be compared.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you are still skipping over my point.
"And of course we are more closely aligned in terms of standards "
That is an understatement.
UK and EU are mostly aligned on all sectors. They are not starting from scratch. UK has almost changed nothing from when it was part of the EU.
And if I was to take your F1 analogy. UK has last year's engine, but until the EU changes wholesale rules, that engine is pretty much the same as the others when it was racing. Full divergence can take decades.
Seriously, why do you think Starmer was able to negotiate a new skeleton outline of a 'common understanding' deal so quickly? And that will continue to develop. UK is not going to rejoin the EU.
And as for member states setting up political roadblocks. There is a common enemy at the moment, wrecking European economies. Necessity beats grandstanding. That's why the India/UK deal was wrapped up in 3 years and not 15 as normal.
posted on 3/8/25
15 years? USMCA took 1 year.
Original NAFTA took 4 years.
Which trade agreements have taken 15 years?
posted on 3/8/25
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 42 seconds ago
15 years? USMCA took 1 year.
Original NAFTA took 4 years.
Which trade agreements have taken 15 years?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was being hyperbolic? CETA took 8 years.
posted on 3/8/25
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 42 seconds ago
15 years? USMCA took 1 year.
Original NAFTA took 4 years.
Which trade agreements have taken 15 years?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was being hyperbolic? CETA took 8 years.
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Maybe because the EU needed a unanimous vote.
And some minor county in Belgium wasted at least 6 months.
But I didn't ask about 8 years.
Which have taken 15 years.
And did UK ever return to negotiations with Canada after walking out a couple of years ago?
posted on 4/8/25
https://x.com/redcollectiveuk/status/1952077485895565330?s=61&t=ncpdEcJLIN1zPASIYpgYDA
To get 300,000 people on this march on such a nasty, rainy cold day was such a message sent to Israel. I hope every major city in the world repeats that
posted on 4/8/25
Those protests outside the hotels in England look like some of the cringiest things ever seen. A bunch of jobless, toothless racists wanting to break in and bash a bunch of people for no other reason than GB News told them to do it.
posted on 4/8/25
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy98l9j913vo
When you have stories like this, you are unfortunately going to get bad faith actors using it to shout cover up and PROTECT ARE GURLS
Unfortunately the govt lost this argument the moment they tried to beat Reform from the right, they will never stop the boats and moving away from asylum hotels is taking too long
posted on 4/8/25
Returns and deportations - up.
National Crime Agency staff- up. (Dept of anti- people smuggling gang).
Border agency budget - up £100m
Border agency targeting san papiers employers.
1-for-1 deal with France.
Yeah but but but...
posted on 4/8/25
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 9 minutes ago
Returns and deportations - up.
National Crime Agency staff- up. (Dept of anti- people smuggling gang).
Border agency budget - up £100m
Border agency targeting san papiers employers.
1-for-1 deal with France.
Yeah but but but...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Reform +2
posted on 4/8/25
You could rid the country of every asylum seeker tomorrow, rip them from their beds, shackle them and march them barefoot onto planes and Reform would still be propogandizing that we have open borders, offering brown people fortunes and luxury hotels.
posted on 4/8/25
Reform would say "too little too late" "finally twotierkeir has bowed to public pressure"
And of course
"There are still too many different languages being spoken at Tesco"
posted on 4/8/25
My neighbour still speaks foreign...well...Essex.
posted on 4/8/25
Is your neighbour Tom Skinner?
posted on 4/8/25
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 36 minutes ago
Is your neighbour Tom Skinner?
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She's actually a very nice old lady thats 100 at the end of the month.She's actually a very nice old lady thats 100 at the end of the month...paaaarty!
posted on 4/8/25
Parrot parrot
posted on 4/8/25
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 36 minutes ago
Is your neighbour Tom Skinner?
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She's actually a very nice old lady thats 100 at the end of the month.She's actually a very nice old lady thats 100 at the end of the month...paaaarty!
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Like NYC. So nice you have to say it twice.
posted on 4/8/25
She'll get a telegram from the king
posted on 4/8/25
RIP James Whale as far as fascist wannabe talk radio shock jocks go; he was my favourite
posted on 4/8/25
comment by Robb Cunha (U22716)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
Those protests outside the hotels in England look like some of the cringiest things ever seen. A bunch of jobless, toothless racists wanting to break in and bash a bunch of people for no other reason than GB News told them to do it.
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So the people protesting about illegal immigrants are toothless layabouts, and the 300k that turned up to protest about Palestine are hardworking heroes?
posted on 4/8/25
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
RIP James Whale as far as fascist wannabe talk radio shock jocks go; he was my favourite
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RIP.
He fought that disease for a long time.
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