comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
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comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy: Reigning English, European & World Champions (U1396)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
SARS, Ebola etc , were all still terrible diseases which killed a lot of people world wide. Flu kills people world wide every year. Ebola was awful in Africa. I think
We really need to get a bloody grip here, follow the guidelines and this will be tackled very soon.
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SARS killed fewer than 800 people. In Italy alone, well over 1,000 have died from COVID-19. Yes, "only" 21 have died in the UK at present. But the day before it was 10. If it's 40 today, what's the prediction for tomorrow?
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Every single additional death in the UK has been either been due to age and/or underlying health issues
The numbers coming out of Italy are a bit of an anomaly at 6.8% mortality
No other country, with the possible exception of Iraq & Iran are showing a rate higher than 4%
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Many European countries are down in the 0.2-0.5% mark.
Starting to think they need to either go to one extreme or the other, ignore and go on as normal given they think 40-70% are catching this anyway, so current restrictions are going to make little difference, OR total lockdown for a month so the virus cannot spread any further.
The current plan means this is going on for the rest of the year and then likely through next winter which would result in the economy being completely and utterly destroyed for decades.
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Spain - 36% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Italy - 42% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
UK - 54% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
France - 88% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Germany - 18% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
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These numbers you have posted are complete and utter crap and the type of thing that fuels the nonsense we are seeing from some people. Effectively, going by your numbers as an example, Tom Hanks or his missus, one of them is definitely going to die
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Not at all - the average death rate of all cases closed is 7%. But those numbers above indicate that its definitely not 0.2% bolloks
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was talking to some of my family members from the village my parents are from in Pakistan about Coronavirus and they were like what virus?
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Only takes 1 to get in and get them started
There was ONE senior Hong Kong geezer that boarded the Diamond Princess and got 696 people infected and killed 7
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That is the worry. In these poor countries details are not being passed through. In the villages people get ill and if they cant afford to go to the doctors then they just die if there body cant fight it.
Yeah, blame the Boers ! 's all double dutch to me anyway !
OK, lets take China then
China - 5% death rate of 66,931 closed cases (recovered or dead)
7493 open cases of which 30% critical
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comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy: Reigning English, European & World Champions (U1396)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
SARS, Ebola etc , were all still terrible diseases which killed a lot of people world wide. Flu kills people world wide every year. Ebola was awful in Africa. I think
We really need to get a bloody grip here, follow the guidelines and this will be tackled very soon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SARS killed fewer than 800 people. In Italy alone, well over 1,000 have died from COVID-19. Yes, "only" 21 have died in the UK at present. But the day before it was 10. If it's 40 today, what's the prediction for tomorrow?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Every single additional death in the UK has been either been due to age and/or underlying health issues
The numbers coming out of Italy are a bit of an anomaly at 6.8% mortality
No other country, with the possible exception of Iraq & Iran are showing a rate higher than 4%
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Many European countries are down in the 0.2-0.5% mark.
Starting to think they need to either go to one extreme or the other, ignore and go on as normal given they think 40-70% are catching this anyway, so current restrictions are going to make little difference, OR total lockdown for a month so the virus cannot spread any further.
The current plan means this is going on for the rest of the year and then likely through next winter which would result in the economy being completely and utterly destroyed for decades.
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Spain - 36% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Italy - 42% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
UK - 54% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
France - 88% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Germany - 18% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
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These numbers you have posted are complete and utter crap and the type of thing that fuels the nonsense we are seeing from some people. Effectively, going by your numbers as an example, Tom Hanks or his missus, one of them is definitely going to die
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Not at all - the average death rate of all cases closed is 7%. But those numbers above indicate that its definitely not 0.2% bolloks
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The numbers you have posted are misleading, they imply that death rates are very high and that many who are not yet recovered are n their deathbeds which is completely untrue.
Germany as an example has 5381 cases......10 deaths and 9 others is critical condition.
Austria has 800 cases.....1 death......1 critical
Belgium 886 cases......4 deaths........33 critical
Sweden 1024 cases.....2 deaths........2 critical
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy: Reigning English, European & World Champions (U1396)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
SARS, Ebola etc , were all still terrible diseases which killed a lot of people world wide. Flu kills people world wide every year. Ebola was awful in Africa. I think
We really need to get a bloody grip here, follow the guidelines and this will be tackled very soon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SARS killed fewer than 800 people. In Italy alone, well over 1,000 have died from COVID-19. Yes, "only" 21 have died in the UK at present. But the day before it was 10. If it's 40 today, what's the prediction for tomorrow?
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Every single additional death in the UK has been either been due to age and/or underlying health issues
The numbers coming out of Italy are a bit of an anomaly at 6.8% mortality
No other country, with the possible exception of Iraq & Iran are showing a rate higher than 4%
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Many European countries are down in the 0.2-0.5% mark.
Starting to think they need to either go to one extreme or the other, ignore and go on as normal given they think 40-70% are catching this anyway, so current restrictions are going to make little difference, OR total lockdown for a month so the virus cannot spread any further.
The current plan means this is going on for the rest of the year and then likely through next winter which would result in the economy being completely and utterly destroyed for decades.
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Spain - 36% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Italy - 42% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
UK - 54% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
France - 88% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Germany - 18% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
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Meaningless statistic. You don't have a clue how many active cases will result in deaths
Make of this what you will:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32133832-potential-false-positive-rate-among-the-asymptomatic-infected-individuals-in-close-contacts-of-covid-19-patients/
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 40 seconds ago
Make of this what you will:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32133832-potential-false-positive-rate-among-the-asymptomatic-infected-individuals-in-close-contacts-of-covid-19-patients/
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Anyone wanna translate that to English?
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 40 seconds ago
Make of this what you will:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32133832-potential-false-positive-rate-among-the-asymptomatic-infected-individuals-in-close-contacts-of-covid-19-patients/
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Anyone wanna translate that to English?
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It is in English.
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy: Reigning English, European & World Champions (U1396)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
SARS, Ebola etc , were all still terrible diseases which killed a lot of people world wide. Flu kills people world wide every year. Ebola was awful in Africa. I think
We really need to get a bloody grip here, follow the guidelines and this will be tackled very soon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SARS killed fewer than 800 people. In Italy alone, well over 1,000 have died from COVID-19. Yes, "only" 21 have died in the UK at present. But the day before it was 10. If it's 40 today, what's the prediction for tomorrow?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Every single additional death in the UK has been either been due to age and/or underlying health issues
The numbers coming out of Italy are a bit of an anomaly at 6.8% mortality
No other country, with the possible exception of Iraq & Iran are showing a rate higher than 4%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Many European countries are down in the 0.2-0.5% mark.
Starting to think they need to either go to one extreme or the other, ignore and go on as normal given they think 40-70% are catching this anyway, so current restrictions are going to make little difference, OR total lockdown for a month so the virus cannot spread any further.
The current plan means this is going on for the rest of the year and then likely through next winter which would result in the economy being completely and utterly destroyed for decades.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Spain - 36% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Italy - 42% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
UK - 54% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
France - 88% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Germany - 18% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
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These numbers you have posted are complete and utter crap and the type of thing that fuels the nonsense we are seeing from some people. Effectively, going by your numbers as an example, Tom Hanks or his missus, one of them is definitely going to die
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not at all - the average death rate of all cases closed is 7%. But those numbers above indicate that its definitely not 0.2% bolloks
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The numbers you have posted are misleading, they imply that death rates are very high and that many who are not yet recovered are n their deathbeds which is completely untrue.
Germany as an example has 5381 cases......10 deaths and 9 others is critical condition.
Austria has 800 cases.....1 death......1 critical
Belgium 886 cases......4 deaths........33 critical
Sweden 1024 cases.....2 deaths........2 critical
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Yes, hence the average is 7% overall. And you need to look at closed cases. Open cases could have any outcome.
comment by Keep It Greasy: Reigning English, European & World Champions (U1396)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy: Reigning English, European & World Champions (U1396)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
SARS, Ebola etc , were all still terrible diseases which killed a lot of people world wide. Flu kills people world wide every year. Ebola was awful in Africa. I think
We really need to get a bloody grip here, follow the guidelines and this will be tackled very soon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SARS killed fewer than 800 people. In Italy alone, well over 1,000 have died from COVID-19. Yes, "only" 21 have died in the UK at present. But the day before it was 10. If it's 40 today, what's the prediction for tomorrow?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Every single additional death in the UK has been either been due to age and/or underlying health issues
The numbers coming out of Italy are a bit of an anomaly at 6.8% mortality
No other country, with the possible exception of Iraq & Iran are showing a rate higher than 4%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Many European countries are down in the 0.2-0.5% mark.
Starting to think they need to either go to one extreme or the other, ignore and go on as normal given they think 40-70% are catching this anyway, so current restrictions are going to make little difference, OR total lockdown for a month so the virus cannot spread any further.
The current plan means this is going on for the rest of the year and then likely through next winter which would result in the economy being completely and utterly destroyed for decades.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Spain - 36% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Italy - 42% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
UK - 54% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
France - 88% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Germany - 18% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
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Meaningless statistic. You don't have a clue how many active cases will result in deaths
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I know, the overall average is 7% death of closed cases and 9% critical of open cases.
Here's one to get fack with your head , are all the people dying old with underlying health conditions , or is that just what were being told , so there in not chaos?
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 2 minutes ago
Here's one to get fack with your head , are all the people dying old with underlying health conditions , or is that just what were being told , so there in not chaos?
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No, its true. It is also true that very few under the age of 60 will die
Death rates are a bogus number at this stage. They do not take into account unconfirmed cases of which there are lots. In every country bar S.Korea people with mild cases are not being tested and therefore they are not being added to the official total. People are either being told to go home until it gets worse or they are so mild they aren't even going to test centers. The case numbers being published are just a snap shot of the actual cases. Of course when you only test and log late advanced/severe cases where there is a high chance of death anyway, you are going to have a high death rate. S.Korea tested pretty much everyone and has a death rate less than 1%. Of course testing everyone, means you can take action earlier so less likely to die, but it also means that all cases are being considered.
Exactly, the numbers are worthless really as loads are not tested and also as governments want to give off false impressions.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
Just tried to do a Sainsbury`s home delivery as a practice run, and there was a three week slot for delivery, and not one slot available. So it has not really even started yet and I couldn`t get a delivery even if I wanted to. So if the over 70s are not allowed out, and they cannot get food delivered. What are they actually supposed to do?
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Should be allocated to pensioners and specific vulnerable groups ?
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 17 minutes ago
Exactly, the numbers are worthless really as loads are not tested and also as governments want to give off false impressions.
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comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 17 minutes ago
Exactly, the numbers are worthless really as loads are not tested and also as governments want to give off false impressions.
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What? You think governments are being honest right now? All this flattening the curve nonsense, it's a numbers game.
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 17 minutes ago
Exactly, the numbers are worthless really as loads are not tested and also as governments want to give off false impressions.
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What? You think governments are being honest right now? All this flattening the curve nonsense, it's a numbers game.
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The Government are telling us very little. I think Tuesday or something like that they are supposed to be making big announcements.
Probably to tell us all the toilet paper has run out.
it's just because it's a new hence the hysteria, it was apparently doing the rounds in november-december in UK lots of doctors/nurses saw people with exact same symptoms but couldn't diagnose and most recovered within a week
I'm sure i had it in 2017 exact same symptoms. Then again felt like i had it last week too, proper tight chest and shortness of breath for 2-3 days but then felt fine
Fack knows, so much stuff goes around from october-april every year could be anything
Panicking does seem like overkill though, even if 6,000 in UK get it that's still only 0.01%
Pubs shutting next week, so I am hearing.
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 12 seconds ago
it's just because it's a new hence the hysteria, it was apparently doing the rounds in november-december in UK lots of doctors/nurses saw people with exact same symptoms but couldn't diagnose and most recovered within a week
I'm sure i had it in 2017 exact same symptoms. Then again felt like i had it last week too, proper tight chest and shortness of breath for 2-3 days but then felt fine
Fack knows, so much stuff goes around from october-april every year could be anything
Panicking does seem like overkill though, even if 6,000 in UK get it that's still only 0.01%
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I had a cough etc that stuck around for over four weeks in November/December. Some days I was bedridden, some not. It has been pretty much agreed, however, that Covid-19 was not on this country then - no way.
Your “even if 6,000” figure is incredibly optimistic, given that there are more than twice that in Italy already.
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy: Reigning English, European & World Champions (U1396)
posted 2 minutes ago
Funny, the summer heat hasn't prevented deaths in the Phllipines, Indonesia, Hong Kong, Australia, Thailand, Japan.
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Yeah, its bolloks to say that warm weather will save us
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None of those countries have been in summer since the virus aside of Australia...
Well done for picking a load of northern hemisphere countries
30-35(c) is the temp at which they reckon the virus gets killed
summer weather in central-southern spain will stop the infections there
35 people dead now. Looks like the number of dead is doubling day on day. Not good.
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comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy: Reigning English, European & World Champions (U1396)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
SARS, Ebola etc , were all still terrible diseases which killed a lot of people world wide. Flu kills people world wide every year. Ebola was awful in Africa. I think
We really need to get a bloody grip here, follow the guidelines and this will be tackled very soon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SARS killed fewer than 800 people. In Italy alone, well over 1,000 have died from COVID-19. Yes, "only" 21 have died in the UK at present. But the day before it was 10. If it's 40 today, what's the prediction for tomorrow?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Every single additional death in the UK has been either been due to age and/or underlying health issues
The numbers coming out of Italy are a bit of an anomaly at 6.8% mortality
No other country, with the possible exception of Iraq & Iran are showing a rate higher than 4%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Many European countries are down in the 0.2-0.5% mark.
Starting to think they need to either go to one extreme or the other, ignore and go on as normal given they think 40-70% are catching this anyway, so current restrictions are going to make little difference, OR total lockdown for a month so the virus cannot spread any further.
The current plan means this is going on for the rest of the year and then likely through next winter which would result in the economy being completely and utterly destroyed for decades.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Spain - 36% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Italy - 42% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
UK - 54% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
France - 88% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Germany - 18% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
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These numbers you have posted are complete and utter crap and the type of thing that fuels the nonsense we are seeing from some people. Effectively, going by your numbers as an example, Tom Hanks or his missus, one of them is definitely going to die
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Not at all - the average death rate of all cases closed is 7%. But those numbers above indicate that its definitely not 0.2% bolloks
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was talking to some of my family members from the village my parents are from in Pakistan about Coronavirus and they were like what virus?
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Only takes 1 to get in and get them started
There was ONE senior Hong Kong geezer that boarded the Diamond Princess and got 696 people infected and killed 7
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That is the worry. In these poor countries details are not being passed through. In the villages people get ill and if they cant afford to go to the doctors then they just die if there body cant fight it.
posted on 15/3/20
Yeah, blame the Boers ! 's all double dutch to me anyway !
posted on 15/3/20
OK, lets take China then
China - 5% death rate of 66,931 closed cases (recovered or dead)
7493 open cases of which 30% critical
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy: Reigning English, European & World Champions (U1396)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
SARS, Ebola etc , were all still terrible diseases which killed a lot of people world wide. Flu kills people world wide every year. Ebola was awful in Africa. I think
We really need to get a bloody grip here, follow the guidelines and this will be tackled very soon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SARS killed fewer than 800 people. In Italy alone, well over 1,000 have died from COVID-19. Yes, "only" 21 have died in the UK at present. But the day before it was 10. If it's 40 today, what's the prediction for tomorrow?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Every single additional death in the UK has been either been due to age and/or underlying health issues
The numbers coming out of Italy are a bit of an anomaly at 6.8% mortality
No other country, with the possible exception of Iraq & Iran are showing a rate higher than 4%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Many European countries are down in the 0.2-0.5% mark.
Starting to think they need to either go to one extreme or the other, ignore and go on as normal given they think 40-70% are catching this anyway, so current restrictions are going to make little difference, OR total lockdown for a month so the virus cannot spread any further.
The current plan means this is going on for the rest of the year and then likely through next winter which would result in the economy being completely and utterly destroyed for decades.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Spain - 36% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Italy - 42% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
UK - 54% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
France - 88% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Germany - 18% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
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These numbers you have posted are complete and utter crap and the type of thing that fuels the nonsense we are seeing from some people. Effectively, going by your numbers as an example, Tom Hanks or his missus, one of them is definitely going to die
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not at all - the average death rate of all cases closed is 7%. But those numbers above indicate that its definitely not 0.2% bolloks
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The numbers you have posted are misleading, they imply that death rates are very high and that many who are not yet recovered are n their deathbeds which is completely untrue.
Germany as an example has 5381 cases......10 deaths and 9 others is critical condition.
Austria has 800 cases.....1 death......1 critical
Belgium 886 cases......4 deaths........33 critical
Sweden 1024 cases.....2 deaths........2 critical
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy: Reigning English, European & World Champions (U1396)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
SARS, Ebola etc , were all still terrible diseases which killed a lot of people world wide. Flu kills people world wide every year. Ebola was awful in Africa. I think
We really need to get a bloody grip here, follow the guidelines and this will be tackled very soon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SARS killed fewer than 800 people. In Italy alone, well over 1,000 have died from COVID-19. Yes, "only" 21 have died in the UK at present. But the day before it was 10. If it's 40 today, what's the prediction for tomorrow?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Every single additional death in the UK has been either been due to age and/or underlying health issues
The numbers coming out of Italy are a bit of an anomaly at 6.8% mortality
No other country, with the possible exception of Iraq & Iran are showing a rate higher than 4%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Many European countries are down in the 0.2-0.5% mark.
Starting to think they need to either go to one extreme or the other, ignore and go on as normal given they think 40-70% are catching this anyway, so current restrictions are going to make little difference, OR total lockdown for a month so the virus cannot spread any further.
The current plan means this is going on for the rest of the year and then likely through next winter which would result in the economy being completely and utterly destroyed for decades.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Spain - 36% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Italy - 42% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
UK - 54% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
France - 88% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Germany - 18% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Meaningless statistic. You don't have a clue how many active cases will result in deaths
posted on 15/3/20
Make of this what you will:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32133832-potential-false-positive-rate-among-the-asymptomatic-infected-individuals-in-close-contacts-of-covid-19-patients/
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 40 seconds ago
Make of this what you will:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32133832-potential-false-positive-rate-among-the-asymptomatic-infected-individuals-in-close-contacts-of-covid-19-patients/
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Anyone wanna translate that to English?
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 40 seconds ago
Make of this what you will:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32133832-potential-false-positive-rate-among-the-asymptomatic-infected-individuals-in-close-contacts-of-covid-19-patients/
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Anyone wanna translate that to English?
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It is in English.
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy: Reigning English, European & World Champions (U1396)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
SARS, Ebola etc , were all still terrible diseases which killed a lot of people world wide. Flu kills people world wide every year. Ebola was awful in Africa. I think
We really need to get a bloody grip here, follow the guidelines and this will be tackled very soon.
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SARS killed fewer than 800 people. In Italy alone, well over 1,000 have died from COVID-19. Yes, "only" 21 have died in the UK at present. But the day before it was 10. If it's 40 today, what's the prediction for tomorrow?
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Every single additional death in the UK has been either been due to age and/or underlying health issues
The numbers coming out of Italy are a bit of an anomaly at 6.8% mortality
No other country, with the possible exception of Iraq & Iran are showing a rate higher than 4%
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Many European countries are down in the 0.2-0.5% mark.
Starting to think they need to either go to one extreme or the other, ignore and go on as normal given they think 40-70% are catching this anyway, so current restrictions are going to make little difference, OR total lockdown for a month so the virus cannot spread any further.
The current plan means this is going on for the rest of the year and then likely through next winter which would result in the economy being completely and utterly destroyed for decades.
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Spain - 36% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Italy - 42% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
UK - 54% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
France - 88% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Germany - 18% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
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These numbers you have posted are complete and utter crap and the type of thing that fuels the nonsense we are seeing from some people. Effectively, going by your numbers as an example, Tom Hanks or his missus, one of them is definitely going to die
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Not at all - the average death rate of all cases closed is 7%. But those numbers above indicate that its definitely not 0.2% bolloks
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The numbers you have posted are misleading, they imply that death rates are very high and that many who are not yet recovered are n their deathbeds which is completely untrue.
Germany as an example has 5381 cases......10 deaths and 9 others is critical condition.
Austria has 800 cases.....1 death......1 critical
Belgium 886 cases......4 deaths........33 critical
Sweden 1024 cases.....2 deaths........2 critical
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Yes, hence the average is 7% overall. And you need to look at closed cases. Open cases could have any outcome.
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Keep It Greasy: Reigning English, European & World Champions (U1396)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy: Reigning English, European & World Champions (U1396)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
SARS, Ebola etc , were all still terrible diseases which killed a lot of people world wide. Flu kills people world wide every year. Ebola was awful in Africa. I think
We really need to get a bloody grip here, follow the guidelines and this will be tackled very soon.
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SARS killed fewer than 800 people. In Italy alone, well over 1,000 have died from COVID-19. Yes, "only" 21 have died in the UK at present. But the day before it was 10. If it's 40 today, what's the prediction for tomorrow?
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Every single additional death in the UK has been either been due to age and/or underlying health issues
The numbers coming out of Italy are a bit of an anomaly at 6.8% mortality
No other country, with the possible exception of Iraq & Iran are showing a rate higher than 4%
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Many European countries are down in the 0.2-0.5% mark.
Starting to think they need to either go to one extreme or the other, ignore and go on as normal given they think 40-70% are catching this anyway, so current restrictions are going to make little difference, OR total lockdown for a month so the virus cannot spread any further.
The current plan means this is going on for the rest of the year and then likely through next winter which would result in the economy being completely and utterly destroyed for decades.
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Spain - 36% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Italy - 42% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
UK - 54% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
France - 88% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
Germany - 18% death rate of closed cases (recovered or dead)
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Meaningless statistic. You don't have a clue how many active cases will result in deaths
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I know, the overall average is 7% death of closed cases and 9% critical of open cases.
posted on 15/3/20
Here's one to get fack with your head , are all the people dying old with underlying health conditions , or is that just what were being told , so there in not chaos?
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 2 minutes ago
Here's one to get fack with your head , are all the people dying old with underlying health conditions , or is that just what were being told , so there in not chaos?
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No, its true. It is also true that very few under the age of 60 will die
posted on 15/3/20
Death rates are a bogus number at this stage. They do not take into account unconfirmed cases of which there are lots. In every country bar S.Korea people with mild cases are not being tested and therefore they are not being added to the official total. People are either being told to go home until it gets worse or they are so mild they aren't even going to test centers. The case numbers being published are just a snap shot of the actual cases. Of course when you only test and log late advanced/severe cases where there is a high chance of death anyway, you are going to have a high death rate. S.Korea tested pretty much everyone and has a death rate less than 1%. Of course testing everyone, means you can take action earlier so less likely to die, but it also means that all cases are being considered.
posted on 15/3/20
Exactly, the numbers are worthless really as loads are not tested and also as governments want to give off false impressions.
posted on 15/3/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
Just tried to do a Sainsbury`s home delivery as a practice run, and there was a three week slot for delivery, and not one slot available. So it has not really even started yet and I couldn`t get a delivery even if I wanted to. So if the over 70s are not allowed out, and they cannot get food delivered. What are they actually supposed to do?
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Should be allocated to pensioners and specific vulnerable groups ?
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 17 minutes ago
Exactly, the numbers are worthless really as loads are not tested and also as governments want to give off false impressions.
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posted on 15/3/20
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 17 minutes ago
Exactly, the numbers are worthless really as loads are not tested and also as governments want to give off false impressions.
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What? You think governments are being honest right now? All this flattening the curve nonsense, it's a numbers game.
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 17 minutes ago
Exactly, the numbers are worthless really as loads are not tested and also as governments want to give off false impressions.
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What? You think governments are being honest right now? All this flattening the curve nonsense, it's a numbers game.
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The Government are telling us very little. I think Tuesday or something like that they are supposed to be making big announcements.
Probably to tell us all the toilet paper has run out.
posted on 15/3/20
it's just because it's a new hence the hysteria, it was apparently doing the rounds in november-december in UK lots of doctors/nurses saw people with exact same symptoms but couldn't diagnose and most recovered within a week
I'm sure i had it in 2017 exact same symptoms. Then again felt like i had it last week too, proper tight chest and shortness of breath for 2-3 days but then felt fine
Fack knows, so much stuff goes around from october-april every year could be anything
Panicking does seem like overkill though, even if 6,000 in UK get it that's still only 0.01%
posted on 15/3/20
Pubs shutting next week, so I am hearing.
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 12 seconds ago
it's just because it's a new hence the hysteria, it was apparently doing the rounds in november-december in UK lots of doctors/nurses saw people with exact same symptoms but couldn't diagnose and most recovered within a week
I'm sure i had it in 2017 exact same symptoms. Then again felt like i had it last week too, proper tight chest and shortness of breath for 2-3 days but then felt fine
Fack knows, so much stuff goes around from october-april every year could be anything
Panicking does seem like overkill though, even if 6,000 in UK get it that's still only 0.01%
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I had a cough etc that stuck around for over four weeks in November/December. Some days I was bedridden, some not. It has been pretty much agreed, however, that Covid-19 was not on this country then - no way.
Your “even if 6,000” figure is incredibly optimistic, given that there are more than twice that in Italy already.
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy: Reigning English, European & World Champions (U1396)
posted 2 minutes ago
Funny, the summer heat hasn't prevented deaths in the Phllipines, Indonesia, Hong Kong, Australia, Thailand, Japan.
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Yeah, its bolloks to say that warm weather will save us
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None of those countries have been in summer since the virus aside of Australia...
Well done for picking a load of northern hemisphere countries
posted on 15/3/20
30-35(c) is the temp at which they reckon the virus gets killed
summer weather in central-southern spain will stop the infections there
posted on 15/3/20
35 people dead now. Looks like the number of dead is doubling day on day. Not good.
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