Bottom two league league should forlough the whole players.

It would save every club

Every employee and player of every club should be furloughed right now.

Without a doubt

I think they need to not be focussing on this season but lord on how to just survive the next 12 months.

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 15 minutes ago
I think they need to not be focussing on this season but lord on how to just survive the next 12 months.
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Finishing the season would just about guarantee they survive the next 12 months.

comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 15 minutes ago
I think they need to not be focussing on this season but lord on how to just survive the next 12 months.
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Finishing the season would just about guarantee they survive the next 12 months.
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No way any clubs survive 12 months with no football with fans and possibly no football in any shape or form in 12 months.

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 15 minutes ago
I think they need to not be focussing on this season but lord on how to just survive the next 12 months.
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Finishing the season would just about guarantee they survive the next 12 months.
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No way any clubs survive 12 months with no football with fans and possibly no football in any shape or form in 12 months.
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Exactly. That's why it's paramount they find a safe way to finish the season.

Finishing the season is the least of everyone’s worries right now.

Some questions that need answering if things do or don't get finished!..

The first is, what happens with the lower league clubs now that they've been well and truly kicked in the nuts?..

The next is, what is cheaper for football on the long run, getting the league finished as soon as possible which will sort out all promotions and whatever else has to be sorted?..

Or just dragging it on as they are now doing?..

The next, and its one I've not seen anybody mention, but if any of the clubs that have been let down because of the Authorities Mismanagement do decide to take court action, when could the new season whichever way they decide to do it be able to start?..

I'm not sure but if the FA/FL are waiting for a court case, don't they have to wait until its finished before starting the next season?..

If yes, than that could take a couple of years longer!..

The best way for all is to halt the courts by letting the lower leagues get their season ended fairly, and finishing all the leagues even if its behind closed doors, it's the only and fairest way to settle anything that is going to cripple football and make things worst than they already are!..

"Finishing the season is the least of everyone’s worries right now."

Jonty, people like yourself are always saying that, so that could be a reason why people say when its safe to do so!..

Something has to be done at some stage, and all people here are trying to do is make a few suggestions and work out when!..

I don't think anybody in power will take to much notice of what people here write, that's why I know what I've just written is a load of bull crap, but then, that's my normal everyday thing!..

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 41 minutes ago
Finishing the season is the least of everyone’s worries right now.
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And preparing for a new one is even further behind.

comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 7 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 41 minutes ago
Finishing the season is the least of everyone’s worries right now.
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And preparing for a new one is even further behind.
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I completely agree, priority for clubs has to be survival.

If they’re not planning to be able to get through 12 months without football, expecting it all to restart in a couple of months then they’re on road to liquidation as I don’t see job retention schemes and business support extending for 12 months.

Very interesting article on the landscape worldwide

https://www.ft.com/content/fd7e58ec-7438-11ea-95fe-fcd274e920ca

Can't access the FT. Don't have a subscription.

Lockdown won't last for a year. Covid or no covid, lockdown won't last past the next couple months or so.

Maybe you’re not listening to the medical experts.

Almost any one of them will tell you measures need to be in place for 12 months or so, and many saying not to expect restaurants, theatres, sports to resume by then.

I’m not expecting chance to re open my club before September at earliest and even then will have to reduce all class sizes.

Sport will not be as before.

But if total lockdown lasts that long then what will be the impact of that?

Is that a genuine question?

Yes. And why wouldn't it be?

We'll have more way worse problems if everything stays shut for that amount of time, deaths indirectly related to convid19 will be far greater and the economy will collapse. I think we need to start getting back to normal in a month from now, social distancing must be put into everyday lives, but we have to go back to normal soon.

Here is a mad idea for something in the hopefully not to far distance subject to best medical advice.

There are 91 prem games and 108 championship games needed to finish their season.
If they had to be played behind "closed doors" it would need broadcast money to provide some income. 2 prem games and 3 champ games per day with spread out kick offs across 3 or so TV channels to promote sponsors, adverts etc. Games would need to be centralised at just say around 4 Premiership grounds and around 5 Championship grounds. Fans would have to stay away from these grounds. This would cut down need for support staff/equipment to a minimum. But would the pitches stand up to this use ?

The lower leagues with the same problems, would be a bigger problem as they rely more on fans footfall than commercial support. It would need some imaginative ideas of relevant cash flows, grants, donations etc to give them a chance to complete their league programmes.

A mad idea ? Yes, but surely the many "experts" in the FA/FL in this country (with money) could surely come up with something. Contracts, Legal issues etc etc must be a nightmare to consider.

But the bottom line as ever is the safety and health of all concerned. Take care and support our NHS.

Because it’s pretty obvious that a year of lockdown would cripple society.

The gov will not financially bail out businesses and workers for a year.

Cafes, restaurants, pubs, hotels, theatres, cinemas, gyms, sports clubs, airlines are going to be literally wiped out.

Societal tensions which we can already see rising will impact law and order and we’ll see more troops on streets.

At some point giv has to choose between financially bailing people out, and powering the health and law and order efforts.

Here is SAGE’s comments on the longevity of lockdown: It was agreed that a policy of alternating between periods of more and less strict social distancing measures could plausibly be effective at keeping the number of critical care cases within capacity. These would need to be in place for at least most of a year.

“Under such as policy, at least half of the year would be spent under the stricter social distancing measures.”

comment by Penshawdave (U1894)
posted 6 minutes ago
Here is a mad ideafor something in the hopefully not to far distance subject to best medical advice.

There are 91 prem games and 108 championship games needed to finish their season.
If they had to be played behind "closed doors" it would need broadcast money to provide some income. 2 prem games and 3 champ games per day with spread out kick offs across 3 or so TV channels to promote sponsors, adverts etc. Games would need to be centralised at just say around 4 Premiership grounds and around 5 Championship grounds. Fans would have to stay away from these grounds. This would cut down need for support staff/equipment to a minimum. But would the pitches stand up to this use ?

The lower leagues with the same problems, would be a bigger problem as they rely more on fans footfall than commercial support. It would need some imaginative ideas of relevant cash flows, grants, donations etc to give them a chance to complete their league programmes.

A mad idea ? Yes,but surely the many "experts" in the FA/FL in this country (with money) could surely come up with something. Contracts, Legal issues etc etc must be a nightmare to consider.

But the bottom line as ever is the safety and health of all concerned. Take care and support our NHS.
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With all due respect Dave centralising things makes the potential risk even higher.

It’s simply not feasible under gov guidelines at present.

I think we have to stop worrying about end of season and focus on how to preserve clubs so that they are still in existence when matches are able to be played again.

FIFA is sitting on billions, this is the rainy day tgat money should be used for.

I think we have to stop worrying about end of season and focus on how to preserve clubs so that they are still in existence when matches are able to be played again
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This is where it doesn't add up for me. Finishing the season is one of the ways we can focus on that will allow clubs to be preserved and to strengthen them for the long run, so long as it can be done safely.

You want to rule out what can actually help save the clubs while maintaining that priority should be on saving the clubs. Doesn't make sense to me.

Simple question, what should be priority, finishing season or preserving club?

It has to be preserving the club first, has to be.

Most people seem to think matches can resume in some shape or firm in the short term. But what if greg can’t? What if it’s next May before they can be played?

Scientific advice is for long term lockdown. Societal pressure is to relax lockdown, as we see from people trying to justify matches starting. Governments are trying to balance the 2, but the science and the numbers are really clear for everyone to see, should they choose to see it.

There is a huge swathe if population not yet infected and there is no vaccine. Lift lockdown, infection rates and deaths rise again.

Playing football matches even behind closed doors is risking infection rates rising again. It’s the opposite of what you need to do to address this.

If in a years time they’re playing matches again then they can worry about what to do with the season.

Our players have had letters sent to them telling them to prepare to be back at training May 16th(think it was that date), AK is saying contracts will be extended to the end of this season and new ones will start next season, players allowed to ease off this week as they have been working hard lately,

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
Simple question, what should be priority, finishing season or preserving club?

It has to be preserving the club first, has to be.

Most people seem to think matches can resume in some shape or firm in the short term. But what if greg can’t? What if it’s next May before they can be played?

Scientific advice is for long term lockdown. Societal pressure is to relax lockdown, as we see from people trying to justify matches starting. Governments are trying to balance the 2, but the science and the numbers are really clear for everyone to see, should they choose to see it.

There is a huge swathe if population not yet infected and there is no vaccine. Lift lockdown, infection rates and deaths rise again.

Playing football matches even behind closed doors is risking infection rates rising again. It’s the opposite of what you need to do to address this.

If in a years time they’re playing matches again then they can worry about what to do with the season.
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That's why I said "safely". If it can't be done safely then it shouldn't happen of course. If finishing the season is possible and it helps to preserve the club then tahy option should be explored to it's logical conclusion.

What you're saying is we shouldn't even try, which would be stupid. If experts say games can be played behind closed doors then it will happen.

Fact is if lockdown lasts as long as your experts are saying then over half the clubs will cease to exist, possibly over three quarters. The Premier League and similar companies would also be in trouble and possibly wound up. https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/420470