The problem with that (vigilantism) is the wrong people suffer. The Farkers that hate on blacks would skate free and good people would get killed. It's just the way that stuff happens, although it's about time for black folks to say "enough is enough" and fight back. Dr King's methods worked on the grand scale, but these isolated events have to be solved in a more "surgical" manner. There's an awful large amount of firepower in the U.S. and it has a tendency to kill innocent people who are in the way of the bullets.
comment by Fred's Shooting Coach (U18999)
posted 1 minute ago
The problem with that (vigilantism) is the wrong people suffer. The Farkers that hate on blacks would skate free and good people would get killed. It's just the way that stuff happens, although it's about time for black folks to say "enough is enough" and fight back. Dr King's methods worked on the grand scale, but these isolated events have to be solved in a more "surgical" manner. There's an awful large amount of firepower in the U.S. and it has a tendency to kill innocent people who are in the way of the bullets.
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my observations too
Dr King's approach for me is the right way, although not perfect
my fear is our current climate with fake news, social media, a govt who seemingly doesn't care about coloured people etc is ripe for a figure like Malcolm X (no disrespect). And if i was a young black american I can see why is ideology will be appealing
What an absolutely stupid post
If you had lived in the US (like I do) you would realize that only “certain” stories get published
It’s all political. It’s about what favors which rhetoric today
The police kill more white people than they do blacks in these situations but when a white office kills a black man it plays in to white guilt for what went on during slavery
Please stop perpetuating this nonsense with posts like this
Yeah no offence but bit of a shambles this. Lived in the US for ten years now and not seen a hint of racism, a vast majority don't give a feck what colour you are and that includes Texans living near the Mexican border.
I dug into some of this stuff several years ago and it turned out white folks were also killed by police and things swept under the carpet.
No doubt some racism exists and some cops are complete cants but it isn't some kind of pandemic but unfortunately the press will always fan the flames and a future flash point will certainly unfold.
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I do love this bizarre British craze in recent years to portray the US as being out of control.
Cinci
Where in the states are you?
You are right, when you live in the US you are amazed what it’s like compared to how it’s portrayed especially in the UK
I currently live in New Jersey, also had stints in Kansas and Ohio. Soon to be moving west, hopefully Arizona.
Just don't get it, the US is a great country despite some of its issues, but show me a country that doesn't have it's issues, we all know the UK has a stack of them.
Americans might not see racism which is outrageous alone but that was a racist cop enjoying making a black man suffer.
Few West Brom fans in Mesa, AZ. Cinci.
comment by Fourzah (U22366)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
To answer the op, yes, u r reading to much into this.
Ur portrayal of the US is hugely skewed by what news n events u happen 2 b made aware of.
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fascinating
as I do not live in the US I can only assume those that do know better than i do. I have always been proud of my ability to differentiate between facts and opinion. This morning even before reading your post, I felt for the first time the line between facts and opinions have become too blurred.
I am very sensitive to people's agenda when they try to pass their opinions as facts.
my op includes a couple of facts followed by a question. So help me out, are the facts I stated incorrect?
I find the US news reports of this very strange. "white police officer puts knee into black mans neck", "the white man asks the black man to get up" etc. Whilst this may well be a racist incident, I don't know, I find the language used in the US media reports strange, almost like they are trying to forced you to believe racism is involved.
Regardless, the officer needs to be punished for this crime. There was simply no need to continue to do what he did and by doing so, it went way beyond what can be considered legal.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
I find the US news reports of this very strange. "white police officer puts knee into black mans neck", "the white man asks the black man to get up" etc. Whilst this may well be a racist incident, I don't know, I find the language used in the US media reports strange, almost like they are trying to forced you to believe racism is involved.
Regardless, the officer needs to be punished for this crime. There was simply no need to continue to do what he did and by doing so, it went way beyond what can be considered legal.
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It was caught on camera. The public were pleading with the officers to give him some airway but he ignored them and was enjoying someone make his last breaths. Why wont this be headline news? Media can't ignore it.
Tangentially, nobody is arguing that police brutality isn’t an issue in the US though, are they?
I mean, they’re shooting and killing three people every day, and the problem with safety in police custody is so bad that the govt has repeatedly refused to release statistics on deaths in cells.
comment by *(kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Bab... (U1108)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
I find the US news reports of this very strange. "white police officer puts knee into black mans neck", "the white man asks the black man to get up" etc. Whilst this may well be a racist incident, I don't know, I find the language used in the US media reports strange, almost like they are trying to forced you to believe racism is involved.
Regardless, the officer needs to be punished for this crime. There was simply no need to continue to do what he did and by doing so, it went way beyond what can be considered legal.
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It was caught on camera. The public were pleading with the officers to give him some airway but he ignored them and was enjoying someone make his last breaths. Why wont this be headline news? Media can't ignore it.
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I know what happened, I watched it.
I never said it shouldn't be headline news.
Have you replied to the wrong person?
There is very obviously a problem with black people suffering at the hands of white policemen in the US and if I was a black person in the US and was pulled over I’d have a legitimate worry that something bad was going to happen to me no matter how well behaved I was.
I don’t support the OP’s question about whether or not black people should take the law into their own hands but the more these things happen the harder it will be to heal the divide.
I don’t support the OP’s question about whether or not black people should take the law into their own hands but the more these things happen the harder it will be to heal the divide.
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I agree with both your points
but for the sake of clarity
to make it clear I am asking a question will anybody be surprised if they did, not that I think they should. My analogy is the kid in class who constantly gets bullied. Would you be surprised if he strikes back at the bullies? IMO this is not hollywood, in reality this will probably make things worse.
This OP is not to encourage any sort of violence but to debate its potential and alternatives. I personally think Dr King won the hearts of people and stopped the more extreme preposition during the civil rights movement. Continuing to ignore the problem might change all that
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 7 hours, 55 minutes ago
What an absolutely stupid post
If you had lived in the US (like I do) you would realize that only “certain” stories get published
It’s all political. It’s about what favors which rhetoric today
The police kill more white people than they do blacks in these situations but when a white office kills a black man it plays in to white guilt for what went on during slavery
Please stop perpetuating this nonsense with posts like this
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You should have done a little bit more research instead of spiting absolute cr ap. You are part of the problem who thinks there isn’t an issue with racism in the US or even the UK.
‘African Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white people. For black women, the rate is 1.4 times more likely.’
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/police-officer-shootings-gun-violence-racial-bias-crime-data/595528/
Victims were majority white (52%) but disproportionately black (32%) with a fatality rate 2.8 times higher among blacks than whites. Most victims were reported to be armed (83%); however, black victims were more likely to be unarmed (14.8%) than white (9.4%) or Hispanic (5.8%) victims.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/
That took my 2mins to research
I was watching a Quincy Jones documentary the other day, and it was pretty striking when he told the interviewer that his grandmother had been a slave.
The roots of racial division in the U.S. are a lot less remote than we generally realise.
There is still loads to be done, obviously, but I think it might sometimes be helpful to look back to find encouragement in just how far things have come.
There are probably people out there who are accepting of racial discrimination as being "just the way things are". It might be good to remind them that not only is change possible, but still happening.
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 7 hours, 55 minutes ago
What an absolutely stupid post
If you had lived in the US (like I do) you would realize that only “certain” stories get published
It’s all political. It’s about what favors which rhetoric today
The police kill more white people than they do blacks in these situations but when a white office kills a black man it plays in to white guilt for what went on during slavery
Please stop perpetuating this nonsense with posts like this
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You should have done a little bit more research instead of spiting absolute cr ap. You are part of the problem who thinks there isn’t an issue with racism in the US or even the UK.
‘African Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white people. For black women, the rate is 1.4 times more likely.’
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/police-officer-shootings-gun-violence-racial-bias-crime-data/595528/
Victims were majority white (52%) but disproportionately black (32%) with a fatality rate 2.8 times higher among blacks than whites. Most victims were reported to be armed (83%); however, black victims were more likely to be unarmed (14.8%) than white (9.4%) or Hispanic (5.8%) victims.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/
That took my 2mins to research
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Whilst those figures are facts, that doesn't prove what you're saying it does. You would have to prove that crimes committed, more so violent crimes, aren't proportionate.
If ten people are arrested and five are African Americans, who pulled guns on police for example and were shot as a consequence, the figures would show that African American's were targeted, when in fact only people who drew guns, were targeted.
There needs to be context with figures, otherwise they don't show a clear picture.
It feels like I've gone back 10 years, Because it reminds me a lot of the riots that happened in London and Manchester.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 7 hours, 55 minutes ago
What an absolutely stupid post
If you had lived in the US (like I do) you would realize that only “certain” stories get published
It’s all political. It’s about what favors which rhetoric today
The police kill more white people than they do blacks in these situations but when a white office kills a black man it plays in to white guilt for what went on during slavery
Please stop perpetuating this nonsense with posts like this
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You should have done a little bit more research instead of spiting absolute cr ap. You are part of the problem who thinks there isn’t an issue with racism in the US or even the UK.
‘African Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white people. For black women, the rate is 1.4 times more likely.’
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/police-officer-shootings-gun-violence-racial-bias-crime-data/595528/
Victims were majority white (52%) but disproportionately black (32%) with a fatality rate 2.8 times higher among blacks than whites. Most victims were reported to be armed (83%); however, black victims were more likely to be unarmed (14.8%) than white (9.4%) or Hispanic (5.8%) victims.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/
That took my 2mins to research
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Whilst those figures are facts, that doesn't prove what you're saying it does. You would have to prove that crimes committed, more so violent crimes, aren't proportionate.
If ten people are arrested and five are African Americans, who pulled guns on police for example and were shot as a consequence, the figures would show that African American's were targeted, when in fact only people who drew guns, were targeted.
There needs to be context with figures, otherwise they don't show a clear picture.
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Although I'd have to withdraw the 'drew guns' part as I didn't read your last paragraph properly.
It's threads like these that tell you just how many posters we have here, who have next to no personal interaction with black people in their day to day lives. Nothing beyond surface level, at the very least.
The sheer lack of self awareness and empathy today would make Marie Antoinette cry.
I'm pretty sure many of the same people throwing statistics about the place will be just as "puzzled" the next time people take to the streets after an incident like this.
Although I'd have to withdraw the 'drew guns' part as I didn't read your last paragraph properly.
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I purposely included that part so my point was still valid.
It's easy to say there isn't a problem as a white man, when it's clear as day to anyone else
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 0 seconds ago
Although I'd have to withdraw the 'drew guns' part as I didn't read your last paragraph properly.
____
I purposely included that part so my point was still valid.
It's easy to say there isn't a problem as a white man, when it's clear as day to anyone else
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posted on 27/5/20
The problem with that (vigilantism) is the wrong people suffer. The Farkers that hate on blacks would skate free and good people would get killed. It's just the way that stuff happens, although it's about time for black folks to say "enough is enough" and fight back. Dr King's methods worked on the grand scale, but these isolated events have to be solved in a more "surgical" manner. There's an awful large amount of firepower in the U.S. and it has a tendency to kill innocent people who are in the way of the bullets.
posted on 27/5/20
comment by Fred's Shooting Coach (U18999)
posted 1 minute ago
The problem with that (vigilantism) is the wrong people suffer. The Farkers that hate on blacks would skate free and good people would get killed. It's just the way that stuff happens, although it's about time for black folks to say "enough is enough" and fight back. Dr King's methods worked on the grand scale, but these isolated events have to be solved in a more "surgical" manner. There's an awful large amount of firepower in the U.S. and it has a tendency to kill innocent people who are in the way of the bullets.
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my observations too
Dr King's approach for me is the right way, although not perfect
my fear is our current climate with fake news, social media, a govt who seemingly doesn't care about coloured people etc is ripe for a figure like Malcolm X (no disrespect). And if i was a young black american I can see why is ideology will be appealing
posted on 28/5/20
What an absolutely stupid post
If you had lived in the US (like I do) you would realize that only “certain” stories get published
It’s all political. It’s about what favors which rhetoric today
The police kill more white people than they do blacks in these situations but when a white office kills a black man it plays in to white guilt for what went on during slavery
Please stop perpetuating this nonsense with posts like this
posted on 28/5/20
Yeah no offence but bit of a shambles this. Lived in the US for ten years now and not seen a hint of racism, a vast majority don't give a feck what colour you are and that includes Texans living near the Mexican border.
I dug into some of this stuff several years ago and it turned out white folks were also killed by police and things swept under the carpet.
No doubt some racism exists and some cops are complete cants but it isn't some kind of pandemic but unfortunately the press will always fan the flames and a future flash point will certainly unfold.
posted on 28/5/20
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posted on 28/5/20
I do love this bizarre British craze in recent years to portray the US as being out of control.
posted on 28/5/20
Cinci
Where in the states are you?
You are right, when you live in the US you are amazed what it’s like compared to how it’s portrayed especially in the UK
posted on 28/5/20
I currently live in New Jersey, also had stints in Kansas and Ohio. Soon to be moving west, hopefully Arizona.
Just don't get it, the US is a great country despite some of its issues, but show me a country that doesn't have it's issues, we all know the UK has a stack of them.
posted on 28/5/20
Americans might not see racism which is outrageous alone but that was a racist cop enjoying making a black man suffer.
posted on 28/5/20
Few West Brom fans in Mesa, AZ. Cinci.
posted on 28/5/20
comment by Fourzah (U22366)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
To answer the op, yes, u r reading to much into this.
Ur portrayal of the US is hugely skewed by what news n events u happen 2 b made aware of.
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fascinating
as I do not live in the US I can only assume those that do know better than i do. I have always been proud of my ability to differentiate between facts and opinion. This morning even before reading your post, I felt for the first time the line between facts and opinions have become too blurred.
I am very sensitive to people's agenda when they try to pass their opinions as facts.
my op includes a couple of facts followed by a question. So help me out, are the facts I stated incorrect?
posted on 28/5/20
I find the US news reports of this very strange. "white police officer puts knee into black mans neck", "the white man asks the black man to get up" etc. Whilst this may well be a racist incident, I don't know, I find the language used in the US media reports strange, almost like they are trying to forced you to believe racism is involved.
Regardless, the officer needs to be punished for this crime. There was simply no need to continue to do what he did and by doing so, it went way beyond what can be considered legal.
posted on 28/5/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
I find the US news reports of this very strange. "white police officer puts knee into black mans neck", "the white man asks the black man to get up" etc. Whilst this may well be a racist incident, I don't know, I find the language used in the US media reports strange, almost like they are trying to forced you to believe racism is involved.
Regardless, the officer needs to be punished for this crime. There was simply no need to continue to do what he did and by doing so, it went way beyond what can be considered legal.
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It was caught on camera. The public were pleading with the officers to give him some airway but he ignored them and was enjoying someone make his last breaths. Why wont this be headline news? Media can't ignore it.
posted on 28/5/20
Tangentially, nobody is arguing that police brutality isn’t an issue in the US though, are they?
I mean, they’re shooting and killing three people every day, and the problem with safety in police custody is so bad that the govt has repeatedly refused to release statistics on deaths in cells.
posted on 28/5/20
comment by *(kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Bab... (U1108)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
I find the US news reports of this very strange. "white police officer puts knee into black mans neck", "the white man asks the black man to get up" etc. Whilst this may well be a racist incident, I don't know, I find the language used in the US media reports strange, almost like they are trying to forced you to believe racism is involved.
Regardless, the officer needs to be punished for this crime. There was simply no need to continue to do what he did and by doing so, it went way beyond what can be considered legal.
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It was caught on camera. The public were pleading with the officers to give him some airway but he ignored them and was enjoying someone make his last breaths. Why wont this be headline news? Media can't ignore it.
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I know what happened, I watched it.
I never said it shouldn't be headline news.
Have you replied to the wrong person?
posted on 28/5/20
There is very obviously a problem with black people suffering at the hands of white policemen in the US and if I was a black person in the US and was pulled over I’d have a legitimate worry that something bad was going to happen to me no matter how well behaved I was.
I don’t support the OP’s question about whether or not black people should take the law into their own hands but the more these things happen the harder it will be to heal the divide.
posted on 28/5/20
I don’t support the OP’s question about whether or not black people should take the law into their own hands but the more these things happen the harder it will be to heal the divide.
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I agree with both your points
but for the sake of clarity
to make it clear I am asking a question will anybody be surprised if they did, not that I think they should. My analogy is the kid in class who constantly gets bullied. Would you be surprised if he strikes back at the bullies? IMO this is not hollywood, in reality this will probably make things worse.
This OP is not to encourage any sort of violence but to debate its potential and alternatives. I personally think Dr King won the hearts of people and stopped the more extreme preposition during the civil rights movement. Continuing to ignore the problem might change all that
posted on 28/5/20
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 7 hours, 55 minutes ago
What an absolutely stupid post
If you had lived in the US (like I do) you would realize that only “certain” stories get published
It’s all political. It’s about what favors which rhetoric today
The police kill more white people than they do blacks in these situations but when a white office kills a black man it plays in to white guilt for what went on during slavery
Please stop perpetuating this nonsense with posts like this
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You should have done a little bit more research instead of spiting absolute cr ap. You are part of the problem who thinks there isn’t an issue with racism in the US or even the UK.
‘African Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white people. For black women, the rate is 1.4 times more likely.’
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/police-officer-shootings-gun-violence-racial-bias-crime-data/595528/
Victims were majority white (52%) but disproportionately black (32%) with a fatality rate 2.8 times higher among blacks than whites. Most victims were reported to be armed (83%); however, black victims were more likely to be unarmed (14.8%) than white (9.4%) or Hispanic (5.8%) victims.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/
That took my 2mins to research
posted on 28/5/20
I was watching a Quincy Jones documentary the other day, and it was pretty striking when he told the interviewer that his grandmother had been a slave.
The roots of racial division in the U.S. are a lot less remote than we generally realise.
There is still loads to be done, obviously, but I think it might sometimes be helpful to look back to find encouragement in just how far things have come.
There are probably people out there who are accepting of racial discrimination as being "just the way things are". It might be good to remind them that not only is change possible, but still happening.
posted on 28/5/20
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 7 hours, 55 minutes ago
What an absolutely stupid post
If you had lived in the US (like I do) you would realize that only “certain” stories get published
It’s all political. It’s about what favors which rhetoric today
The police kill more white people than they do blacks in these situations but when a white office kills a black man it plays in to white guilt for what went on during slavery
Please stop perpetuating this nonsense with posts like this
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You should have done a little bit more research instead of spiting absolute cr ap. You are part of the problem who thinks there isn’t an issue with racism in the US or even the UK.
‘African Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white people. For black women, the rate is 1.4 times more likely.’
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/police-officer-shootings-gun-violence-racial-bias-crime-data/595528/
Victims were majority white (52%) but disproportionately black (32%) with a fatality rate 2.8 times higher among blacks than whites. Most victims were reported to be armed (83%); however, black victims were more likely to be unarmed (14.8%) than white (9.4%) or Hispanic (5.8%) victims.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/
That took my 2mins to research
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Whilst those figures are facts, that doesn't prove what you're saying it does. You would have to prove that crimes committed, more so violent crimes, aren't proportionate.
If ten people are arrested and five are African Americans, who pulled guns on police for example and were shot as a consequence, the figures would show that African American's were targeted, when in fact only people who drew guns, were targeted.
There needs to be context with figures, otherwise they don't show a clear picture.
posted on 28/5/20
It feels like I've gone back 10 years, Because it reminds me a lot of the riots that happened in London and Manchester.
posted on 28/5/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 7 hours, 55 minutes ago
What an absolutely stupid post
If you had lived in the US (like I do) you would realize that only “certain” stories get published
It’s all political. It’s about what favors which rhetoric today
The police kill more white people than they do blacks in these situations but when a white office kills a black man it plays in to white guilt for what went on during slavery
Please stop perpetuating this nonsense with posts like this
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You should have done a little bit more research instead of spiting absolute cr ap. You are part of the problem who thinks there isn’t an issue with racism in the US or even the UK.
‘African Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white people. For black women, the rate is 1.4 times more likely.’
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/police-officer-shootings-gun-violence-racial-bias-crime-data/595528/
Victims were majority white (52%) but disproportionately black (32%) with a fatality rate 2.8 times higher among blacks than whites. Most victims were reported to be armed (83%); however, black victims were more likely to be unarmed (14.8%) than white (9.4%) or Hispanic (5.8%) victims.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/
That took my 2mins to research
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Whilst those figures are facts, that doesn't prove what you're saying it does. You would have to prove that crimes committed, more so violent crimes, aren't proportionate.
If ten people are arrested and five are African Americans, who pulled guns on police for example and were shot as a consequence, the figures would show that African American's were targeted, when in fact only people who drew guns, were targeted.
There needs to be context with figures, otherwise they don't show a clear picture.
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Although I'd have to withdraw the 'drew guns' part as I didn't read your last paragraph properly.
posted on 28/5/20
It's threads like these that tell you just how many posters we have here, who have next to no personal interaction with black people in their day to day lives. Nothing beyond surface level, at the very least.
The sheer lack of self awareness and empathy today would make Marie Antoinette cry.
I'm pretty sure many of the same people throwing statistics about the place will be just as "puzzled" the next time people take to the streets after an incident like this.
posted on 28/5/20
Although I'd have to withdraw the 'drew guns' part as I didn't read your last paragraph properly.
____
I purposely included that part so my point was still valid.
It's easy to say there isn't a problem as a white man, when it's clear as day to anyone else
posted on 28/5/20
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 0 seconds ago
Although I'd have to withdraw the 'drew guns' part as I didn't read your last paragraph properly.
____
I purposely included that part so my point was still valid.
It's easy to say there isn't a problem as a white man, when it's clear as day to anyone else
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In 2020 I’m genuinely stunned some people deny there is a huge problem regarding black people suffering from police brutality.
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