I'll have a go at categorizing them
Legend: a player loved by fans. Usually because they were one of the best, or in one of the best teams at least. But not necessarily.
Great/goat is reserved for only the most talented. Usually backed up by stats but not necessarily.
Flawed genius: a great but not quite, usually because of things outside their control but don't hurt anyone else. Like booze. But not necessarily.
I think you can be a great while being a sh!tty person but you're not going to be loved by many regular fans. You're not a proper legend if every time you're mentioned it's followed by 'shame about..'
If you can get away with cheating you become a legendary cheater
700 goals will never be forgotten. Yeah he's all ego, but he's not sniffing coke or snapping legs is he
Maradona is certainly a legend in Argentina and to some I suppose just a Footballing great!
I don't believe a cheating incident like the one Rivaldo did in the 2002 World Cup should distract the opinion that he was a truly great player. Actually imo a tad underratted.
I think terms like legend are personal to each individual tbh.
David Rocastle is a legend to me as he was breaking through at Arsenal when I was a kid just starting watching football, was an excellent, exciting player who scored some wonder goals, and he won titles and cups with the team. Of course his death at an early age adds a poignant sense of remembering him too.
Some Arsenal fans consider Fabregas a legend, as when they were growing up Cesc was breaking through, and he was our best player. But I wouldn't say he was an Arsenal legend.
Kind of fits BLBs definition.
"Maradona is another who did his reputation no good with his Hand of God goal"
Huh??
comment by Christ We Won (TENƎꓕ) (U17162)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
700 goals will never be forgotten. Yeah he's all ego, but he's not sniffing coke or snapping legs is he
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I mean what's a little rape between sniffing coke or snapping legs.
I'm not saying he's not one of the goats of his generation, he definitely is
Is there any delineation between happy drunks like Best and wife beating drunks like Gazza? I mean its just an illness only the symptoms are slightly different...
Ronnie Radford was a legend at Hereford...
One FA Cup goal on a muddy Saturday - that's all it took
By definition a legend can be somebody who is famous or notorious, so remembered for good OR bad deeds. Maradona is a double-legend as he fits the bill in both cases.
the fact maradona could play as well as he did after abusing his body for years and being on the charlie during matches is a testimony to his incredible footballing ability and in fact even adds to his legendary status
what defines a legend?
Simple ..... has he scored against Celtic.
Whatever you want really. The term is entirely subjective.
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
Maradona is the goat for me. Doing drugs and the hand of god just enhances it even further
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posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
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maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 26 minutes ago
Is there any delineation between happy drunks like Best and wife beating drunks like Gazza? I mean its just an illness only the symptoms are slightly different...
---------------------------------------------------------------------- “where did it all go wrong George”
Even Best snapped a blokes ankle in his day - does that detract from his genius?
Maradonna was the greatest (at least in that era anyway) but he did cheat, he did use PED's. So it is tainted
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posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
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maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
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Okay, didn’t know that, I thought he was just on the bugle.
Doesn’t change it for me, those drugs don’t give you the skill he had
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posted 14 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
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maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
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Okay, didn’t know that, I thought he was just on the bugle.
Doesn’t change it for me, those drugs don’t give you the skill he had
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yup i guess performance enhancing drugs dont enhance your performances much
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posted 14 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
----------------------------------------------------------------------
maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
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Okay, didn’t know that, I thought he was just on the bugle.
Doesn’t change it for me, those drugs don’t give you the skill he had
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yup i guess performance enhancing drugs dont enhance your performances much
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They will give you more stamina, make you more alert, higher pain tolerance, but they can’t make you pick the ball up on the halfway line facing the wrong way, spin, leave 5 defenders trailing you, round the keeper and slot home.
The guy was a genius
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posted 9 seconds ago
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posted 8 seconds ago
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posted 14 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
----------------------------------------------------------------------
maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
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Okay, didn’t know that, I thought he was just on the bugle.
Doesn’t change it for me, those drugs don’t give you the skill he had
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yup i guess performance enhancing drugs dont enhance your performances much
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They will give you more stamina, make you more alert, higher pain tolerance, but they can’t make you pick the ball up on the halfway line facing the wrong way, spin, leave 5 defenders trailing you, round the keeper and slot home.
The guy was a genius
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your example is massively flawed. How could PED's help in a situation where you need to run half the length of the field? no idea.
they can 100% help with your technical ability.
Niave and ignorance to suggest otherwise. (heads up i have a decent bit of background knowledge in PEDS)
ps the guy was a genius..... but a cheating genius none the less
this notion of PEDS dont help skill is incorrect.
How does one improve their technique and skill. Practice , practice , practice the single handily most important thing is practice.
If someone can practice harder, longer, more often then their technical ability will improve more.
On the pitch the first thing that goes when you tire is your technique, its gets sloppy. If a player can last longer before that technique starts to decline then its also helping the technical ability.
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posted 9 seconds ago
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posted 8 seconds ago
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posted 14 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
----------------------------------------------------------------------
maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Okay, didn’t know that, I thought he was just on the bugle.
Doesn’t change it for me, those drugs don’t give you the skill he had
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yup i guess performance enhancing drugs dont enhance your performances much
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They will give you more stamina, make you more alert, higher pain tolerance, but they can’t make you pick the ball up on the halfway line facing the wrong way, spin, leave 5 defenders trailing you, round the keeper and slot home.
The guy was a genius
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your example is massively flawed. How could PED's help in a situation where you need to run half the length of the field? no idea.
they can 100% help with your technical ability.
Niave and ignorance to suggest otherwise. (heads up i have a decent bit of background knowledge in PEDS)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My argument is this, take Maradona, Scott Brown and Rabiot. Give them all PED’s, only one of them is scoring the goal Maradona did in 86 against England, because drugs can’t give you that level of skill and balance.
Heads up - I also know what I’m talking about
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posted on 8/12/22
I'll have a go at categorizing them
Legend: a player loved by fans. Usually because they were one of the best, or in one of the best teams at least. But not necessarily.
Great/goat is reserved for only the most talented. Usually backed up by stats but not necessarily.
Flawed genius: a great but not quite, usually because of things outside their control but don't hurt anyone else. Like booze. But not necessarily.
I think you can be a great while being a sh!tty person but you're not going to be loved by many regular fans. You're not a proper legend if every time you're mentioned it's followed by 'shame about..'
posted on 8/12/22
If you can get away with cheating you become a legendary cheater
posted on 8/12/22
700 goals will never be forgotten. Yeah he's all ego, but he's not sniffing coke or snapping legs is he
posted on 8/12/22
Maradona is certainly a legend in Argentina and to some I suppose just a Footballing great!
I don't believe a cheating incident like the one Rivaldo did in the 2002 World Cup should distract the opinion that he was a truly great player. Actually imo a tad underratted.
posted on 8/12/22
I think terms like legend are personal to each individual tbh.
David Rocastle is a legend to me as he was breaking through at Arsenal when I was a kid just starting watching football, was an excellent, exciting player who scored some wonder goals, and he won titles and cups with the team. Of course his death at an early age adds a poignant sense of remembering him too.
Some Arsenal fans consider Fabregas a legend, as when they were growing up Cesc was breaking through, and he was our best player. But I wouldn't say he was an Arsenal legend.
Kind of fits BLBs definition.
posted on 8/12/22
"Maradona is another who did his reputation no good with his Hand of God goal"
Huh??
posted on 8/12/22
comment by Christ We Won (TENƎꓕ) (U17162)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
700 goals will never be forgotten. Yeah he's all ego, but he's not sniffing coke or snapping legs is he
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I mean what's a little rape between sniffing coke or snapping legs.
I'm not saying he's not one of the goats of his generation, he definitely is
posted on 8/12/22
Is there any delineation between happy drunks like Best and wife beating drunks like Gazza? I mean its just an illness only the symptoms are slightly different...
posted on 8/12/22
Ronnie Radford was a legend at Hereford...
One FA Cup goal on a muddy Saturday - that's all it took
posted on 8/12/22
By definition a legend can be somebody who is famous or notorious, so remembered for good OR bad deeds. Maradona is a double-legend as he fits the bill in both cases.
posted on 8/12/22
the fact maradona could play as well as he did after abusing his body for years and being on the charlie during matches is a testimony to his incredible footballing ability and in fact even adds to his legendary status
posted on 8/12/22
what defines a legend?
Simple ..... has he scored against Celtic.
posted on 8/12/22
Whatever you want really. The term is entirely subjective.
posted on 8/12/22
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
posted on 8/12/22
Maradona is the goat for me. Doing drugs and the hand of god just enhances it even further
posted on 8/12/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
----------------------------------------------------------------------
maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
posted on 8/12/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 26 minutes ago
Is there any delineation between happy drunks like Best and wife beating drunks like Gazza? I mean its just an illness only the symptoms are slightly different...
---------------------------------------------------------------------- “where did it all go wrong George”
Even Best snapped a blokes ankle in his day - does that detract from his genius?
posted on 8/12/22
Maradonna was the greatest (at least in that era anyway) but he did cheat, he did use PED's. So it is tainted
posted on 8/12/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
----------------------------------------------------------------------
maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Okay, didn’t know that, I thought he was just on the bugle.
Doesn’t change it for me, those drugs don’t give you the skill he had
posted on 8/12/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
----------------------------------------------------------------------
maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Okay, didn’t know that, I thought he was just on the bugle.
Doesn’t change it for me, those drugs don’t give you the skill he had
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yup i guess performance enhancing drugs dont enhance your performances much
posted on 8/12/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
----------------------------------------------------------------------
maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Okay, didn’t know that, I thought he was just on the bugle.
Doesn’t change it for me, those drugs don’t give you the skill he had
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yup i guess performance enhancing drugs dont enhance your performances much
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They will give you more stamina, make you more alert, higher pain tolerance, but they can’t make you pick the ball up on the halfway line facing the wrong way, spin, leave 5 defenders trailing you, round the keeper and slot home.
The guy was a genius
posted on 8/12/22
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posted 9 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
----------------------------------------------------------------------
maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Okay, didn’t know that, I thought he was just on the bugle.
Doesn’t change it for me, those drugs don’t give you the skill he had
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yup i guess performance enhancing drugs dont enhance your performances much
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They will give you more stamina, make you more alert, higher pain tolerance, but they can’t make you pick the ball up on the halfway line facing the wrong way, spin, leave 5 defenders trailing you, round the keeper and slot home.
The guy was a genius
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your example is massively flawed. How could PED's help in a situation where you need to run half the length of the field? no idea.
they can 100% help with your technical ability.
Niave and ignorance to suggest otherwise. (heads up i have a decent bit of background knowledge in PEDS)
posted on 8/12/22
ps the guy was a genius..... but a cheating genius none the less
posted on 8/12/22
this notion of PEDS dont help skill is incorrect.
How does one improve their technique and skill. Practice , practice , practice the single handily most important thing is practice.
If someone can practice harder, longer, more often then their technical ability will improve more.
On the pitch the first thing that goes when you tire is your technique, its gets sloppy. If a player can last longer before that technique starts to decline then its also helping the technical ability.
posted on 8/12/22
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posted 5 minutes ago
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posted 8 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
----------------------------------------------------------------------
maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Okay, didn’t know that, I thought he was just on the bugle.
Doesn’t change it for me, those drugs don’t give you the skill he had
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yup i guess performance enhancing drugs dont enhance your performances much
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They will give you more stamina, make you more alert, higher pain tolerance, but they can’t make you pick the ball up on the halfway line facing the wrong way, spin, leave 5 defenders trailing you, round the keeper and slot home.
The guy was a genius
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your example is massively flawed. How could PED's help in a situation where you need to run half the length of the field? no idea.
they can 100% help with your technical ability.
Niave and ignorance to suggest otherwise. (heads up i have a decent bit of background knowledge in PEDS)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My argument is this, take Maradona, Scott Brown and Rabiot. Give them all PED’s, only one of them is scoring the goal Maradona did in 86 against England, because drugs can’t give you that level of skill and balance.
Heads up - I also know what I’m talking about
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