comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
this notion of PEDS dont help skill is incorrect.
How does one improve their technique and skill. Practice , practice , practice the single handily most important thing is practice.
If someone can practice harder, longer, more often then their technical ability will improve more.
On the pitch the first thing that goes when you tire is your technique, its gets sloppy. If a player can last longer before that technique starts to decline then its also helping the technical ability.
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Sure it helps indirectly by increasing the stamina, but it doesn’t give you the touch, vision and balance by itself
Im not argiun anything , there is nothing to argue.
I know what im talking about.
PEDS can have a good effect on your ability both in technique and fitness.
PEDS are not only restricted to making you fitter, loads out there to help other areas. confidence, decision making etc.
what the general public know is just the tip of the ice berg
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
this notion of PEDS dont help skill is incorrect.
How does one improve their technique and skill. Practice , practice , practice the single handily most important thing is practice.
If someone can practice harder, longer, more often then their technical ability will improve more.
On the pitch the first thing that goes when you tire is your technique, its gets sloppy. If a player can last longer before that technique starts to decline then its also helping the technical ability.
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Sure it helps indirectly by increasing the stamina, but it doesn’t give you the touch, vision and balance by itself
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no but it can help you develop better touch and technique. like I said you only improve those things by working on them, and if PEDS can help you practice longer, harder and more often then its can have a huge benefit in your technical ability.
Guys, guys - Cialis doesn't count
Anyway, if Maradona wasn't aff his nut would he have attempted the incredible, mazy run - eh, eh?
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 seconds ago
Im not argiun anything , there is nothing to argue.
I know what im talking about.
PEDS can have a good effect on your ability both in technique and fitness.
PEDS are not only restricted to making you fitter, loads out there to help other areas. confidence, decision making etc.
what the general public know is just the tip of the ice berg
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I’ve also no need to argue, it’s indisputable, PED’s in 1986 could not have alone turned Maradona into the player he was. Others could have been on loads of PED’s, practices twice as hard and twice as long as him but not reached 10% of his talent.
I can’t see how that can be argued with
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 11 seconds ago
Anyway, if Maradona wasn't aff his nut would he have attempted the incredible, mazy run - eh, eh?
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Yes - the man was a genius and due to the falklands war hated the British. He would have done and tried anything to get one over us.
Otherwise, did he only cheat with the hand of his because he was on PED’s?
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posted 7 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 seconds ago
Im not argiun anything , there is nothing to argue.
I know what im talking about.
PEDS can have a good effect on your ability both in technique and fitness.
PEDS are not only restricted to making you fitter, loads out there to help other areas. confidence, decision making etc.
what the general public know is just the tip of the ice berg
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I’ve also no need to argue, it’s indisputable, PED’s in 1986 could not have alone turned Maradona into the player he was. Others could have been on loads of PED’s, practices twice as hard and twice as long as him but not reached 10% of his talent.
I can’t see how that can be argued with
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no one has said that they alone could do anything.
your creating new arguments and trying to amalgamate it into the previous points.
facts are facts, PEDS help you in many ways not just fitness. they improve your ability, technique, decision making etc....
Mardanna used illegal methods to improve himself as a footballer, fact.
You have a lot to say about his PED use and its benefits, quite imptessive saying as you only found out 5mins ago that he used them!
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 seconds ago
Im not argiun anything , there is nothing to argue.
I know what im talking about.
PEDS can have a good effect on your ability both in technique and fitness.
PEDS are not only restricted to making you fitter, loads out there to help other areas. confidence, decision making etc.
what the general public know is just the tip of the ice berg
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I’ve also no need to argue, it’s indisputable, PED’s in 1986 could not have alone turned Maradona into the player he was. Others could have been on loads of PED’s, practices twice as hard and twice as long as him but not reached 10% of his talent.
I can’t see how that can be argued with
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no one has said that they alone could do anything.
your creating new arguments and trying to amalgamate it into the previous points.
facts are facts, PEDS help you in many ways not just fitness. they improve your ability, technique, decision making etc....
Mardanna used illegal methods to improve himself as a footballer, fact.
You have a lot to say about his PED use and its benefits, quite imptessive saying as you only found out 5mins ago that he used them!
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Look yesterday you got all aersey with me because I had a different opinion, today you are doing the same, which is ridiculous as I am mostly agreeing with you.
Yes PED’s help you in all the ways you have stated, but 1986 PED’s could not alone have turned Maradona into the phenomenon he was, the man was a genius and the PED’s helped him along a little whilst the Bugle held him back - are you seriously disagreeing with that?
Try not getting so wound up in the future, it’s okay for people to think 2 different things
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posted 6 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 seconds ago
Im not argiun anything , there is nothing to argue.
I know what im talking about.
PEDS can have a good effect on your ability both in technique and fitness.
PEDS are not only restricted to making you fitter, loads out there to help other areas. confidence, decision making etc.
what the general public know is just the tip of the ice berg
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I’ve also no need to argue, it’s indisputable, PED’s in 1986 could not have alone turned Maradona into the player he was. Others could have been on loads of PED’s, practices twice as hard and twice as long as him but not reached 10% of his talent.
I can’t see how that can be argued with
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no one has said that they alone could do anything.
your creating new arguments and trying to amalgamate it into the previous points.
facts are facts, PEDS help you in many ways not just fitness. they improve your ability, technique, decision making etc....
Mardanna used illegal methods to improve himself as a footballer, fact.
You have a lot to say about his PED use and its benefits, quite imptessive saying as you only found out 5mins ago that he used them!
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Look yesterday you got all aersey with me because I had a different opinion, today you are doing the same, which is ridiculous as I am mostly agreeing with you.
Yes PED’s help you in all the ways you have stated, but 1986 PED’s could not alone have turned Maradona into the phenomenon he was, the man was a genius and the PED’s helped him along a little whilst the Bugle held him back - are you seriously disagreeing with that?
Try not getting so wound up in the future, it’s okay for people to think 2 different things
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im correcting your opinion.
your opinion was that Maradonna didnt use PED's.
So I corrected you.
You claimed that they do not help with your technique or skill.
I explained how they can and corrected you.
your just ar$ey cause im pulling up your inaccuracies.
and as soon as you cannot argue your stance anymore you try to flip it into a personal argument rather than stay on topic and keep it relevant.
you could just thank me for educating you
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posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
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maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
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n the'94 WC he was done for drugs that helped with his weight loss in the build up to the tournament
i think you ppl need to realise how prevalent PEDs are in professional football
a huge % of pro footballers have done or do PEDs
Nearly all of these "legends" are from the modern era, television helps them achieve that status. Wonder how many others would also tick that box from back in the day, the greatest player ever to wear a Leeds shirt for example John Charles.
Alfredo Di Stefano must have been something to behold though 216 goals in 282 appearances for Real will never be equalled, and most of it not recoded anywhere.
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
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maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
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n the'94 WC he was done for drugs that helped with his weight loss in the build up to the tournament
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that was onr of the benefits he recieved from them.
of course when you watch his documentary they tey to sell it that way,,, aww they were just to help lose weight. no not at all !
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 6 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 seconds ago
Im not argiun anything , there is nothing to argue.
I know what im talking about.
PEDS can have a good effect on your ability both in technique and fitness.
PEDS are not only restricted to making you fitter, loads out there to help other areas. confidence, decision making etc.
what the general public know is just the tip of the ice berg
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I’ve also no need to argue, it’s indisputable, PED’s in 1986 could not have alone turned Maradona into the player he was. Others could have been on loads of PED’s, practices twice as hard and twice as long as him but not reached 10% of his talent.
I can’t see how that can be argued with
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no one has said that they alone could do anything.
your creating new arguments and trying to amalgamate it into the previous points.
facts are facts, PEDS help you in many ways not just fitness. they improve your ability, technique, decision making etc....
Mardanna used illegal methods to improve himself as a footballer, fact.
You have a lot to say about his PED use and its benefits, quite imptessive saying as you only found out 5mins ago that he used them!
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Look yesterday you got all aersey with me because I had a different opinion, today you are doing the same, which is ridiculous as I am mostly agreeing with you.
Yes PED’s help you in all the ways you have stated, but 1986 PED’s could not alone have turned Maradona into the phenomenon he was, the man was a genius and the PED’s helped him along a little whilst the Bugle held him back - are you seriously disagreeing with that?
Try not getting so wound up in the future, it’s okay for people to think 2 different things
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im correcting your opinion.
your opinion was that Maradonna didnt use PED's.
So I corrected you.
You claimed that they do not help with your technique or skill.
I explained how they can and corrected you.
your just ar$ey cause im pulling up your inaccuracies.
and as soon as you cannot argue your stance anymore you try to flip it into a personal argument rather than stay on topic and keep it relevant.
you could just thank me for educating you
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I held up my hands on not knowing Maradona was on PED’s - so yes you educated me on that and I thank you.
The rest of the post is inaccurate and shows up your pettiness as I had highlighted earlier.
Have a good day sir
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
i think you ppl need to realise how prevalent PEDs are in professional football
a huge % of pro footballers have done or do PEDs
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the amount of people using some type of gear in any sport let a,one pro's would shock a lot of people.
I have tried them. I am not against them (in por sports yes of course I am) used correctly they can enhance you life massively.
If I had enough money I would still be on something (most likely just a testosterone programme
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 seconds ago
Im not argiun anything , there is nothing to argue.
I know what im talking about.
PEDS can have a good effect on your ability both in technique and fitness.
PEDS are not only restricted to making you fitter, loads out there to help other areas. confidence, decision making etc.
what the general public know is just the tip of the ice berg
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I’ve also no need to argue, it’s indisputable, PED’s in 1986 could not have alone turned Maradona into the player he was. Others could have been on loads of PED’s, practices twice as hard and twice as long as him but not reached 10% of his talent.
I can’t see how that can be argued with
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no one has said that they alone could do anything.
your creating new arguments and trying to amalgamate it into the previous points.
facts are facts, PEDS help you in many ways not just fitness. they improve your ability, technique, decision making etc....
Mardanna used illegal methods to improve himself as a footballer, fact.
You have a lot to say about his PED use and its benefits, quite imptessive saying as you only found out 5mins ago that he used them!
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Look yesterday you got all aersey with me because I had a different opinion, today you are doing the same, which is ridiculous as I am mostly agreeing with you.
Yes PED’s help you in all the ways you have stated, but 1986 PED’s could not alone have turned Maradona into the phenomenon he was, the man was a genius and the PED’s helped him along a little whilst the Bugle held him back - are you seriously disagreeing with that?
Try not getting so wound up in the future, it’s okay for people to think 2 different things
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im correcting your opinion.
your opinion was that Maradonna didnt use PED's.
So I corrected you.
You claimed that they do not help with your technique or skill.
I explained how they can and corrected you.
your just ar$ey cause im pulling up your inaccuracies.
and as soon as you cannot argue your stance anymore you try to flip it into a personal argument rather than stay on topic and keep it relevant.
you could just thank me for educating you
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I held up my hands on not knowing Maradona was on PED’s - so yes you educated me on that and I thank you.
The rest of the post is inaccurate and shows up your pettiness as I had highlighted earlier.
Have a good day sir
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what was inaccurate?
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
i think you ppl need to realise how prevalent PEDs are in professional football
a huge % of pro footballers have done or do PEDs
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the amount of people using some type of gear in any sport let a,one pro's would shock a lot of people.
I have tried them. I am not against them (in por sports yes of course I am) used correctly they can enhance you life massively.
If I had enough money I would still be on something (most likely just a testosterone programme
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This explains a few things. I will leave it there though, you seem quite angry today Whodunnit. Let’s just be mates?
the amount of pro sportsmen who are legally using banned substances would shock most people.
Its not difficult to get TUPE from a doctor, all these clubs have their own doctors ... you figure it out !
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 seconds ago
the amount of pro sportsmen who are legally using banned substances would shock most people.
Its not difficult to get TUPE from a doctor, all these clubs have their own doctors ... you figure it out !
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Those Liverpool players all genuinely have asthma
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posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
i think you ppl need to realise how prevalent PEDs are in professional football
a huge % of pro footballers have done or do PEDs
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the amount of people using some type of gear in any sport let a,one pro's would shock a lot of people.
I have tried them. I am not against them (in por sports yes of course I am) used correctly they can enhance you life massively.
If I had enough money I would still be on something (most likely just a testosterone programme
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This explains a few things. I will leave it there though, you seem quite angry today Whodunnit. Let’s just be mates?
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seems about right ... you make a claim then refuse to explain or back it up then try and change the subject.
just squirm away into your corner if you wanna be like that.
it is what it is. im good
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posted 23 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 seconds ago
the amount of pro sportsmen who are legally using banned substances would shock most people.
Its not difficult to get TUPE from a doctor, all these clubs have their own doctors ... you figure it out !
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Those Liverpool players all genuinely have asthma
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every club is at it
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
i think you ppl need to realise how prevalent PEDs are in professional football
a huge % of pro footballers have done or do PEDs
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the amount of people using some type of gear in any sport let a,one pro's would shock a lot of people.
I have tried them. I am not against them (in por sports yes of course I am) used correctly they can enhance you life massively.
If I had enough money I would still be on something (most likely just a testosterone programme
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This explains a few things. I will leave it there though, you seem quite angry today Whodunnit. Let’s just be mates?
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seems about right ... you make a claim then refuse to explain or back it up then try and change the subject.
just squirm away into your corner if you wanna be like that.
it is what it is. im good
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But you don’t debate, you just state the same thing over and over claiming you’re right and attempt to belittle anyone who disagrees.
You get aersey with me because I just stay on point which highlights your pettiness
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posted 22 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
i think you ppl need to realise how prevalent PEDs are in professional football
a huge % of pro footballers have done or do PEDs
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the amount of people using some type of gear in any sport let a,one pro's would shock a lot of people.
I have tried them. I am not against them (in por sports yes of course I am) used correctly they can enhance you life massively.
If I had enough money I would still be on something (most likely just a testosterone programme
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This explains a few things. I will leave it there though, you seem quite angry today Whodunnit. Let’s just be mates?
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seems about right ... you make a claim then refuse to explain or back it up then try and change the subject.
just squirm away into your corner if you wanna be like that.
it is what it is. im good
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But you don’t debate, you just state the same thing over and over claiming you’re right and attempt to belittle anyone who disagrees.
You get aersey with me because I just stay on point which highlights your pettiness
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i know its almost as if Im trying to get you to answer to your claims but you refuse and keep squirming of on tangents.
we all know your type, you like to just say stuff whether you know its true or not and then get pulled up up on it and take zero responsibility and instead of saying you just said it without checking you just squirm squirm.
I have only spoken to you in regards to two subjects.
Maradonna's lack of PED use
and the stuff about Rabiot being a bit part player for club and country.
neither were true and you took offence to being corrected.
Iv said feel free to point out anything I say that is wrong.
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posted 42 seconds ago
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posted 22 seconds ago
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
i think you ppl need to realise how prevalent PEDs are in professional football
a huge % of pro footballers have done or do PEDs
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the amount of people using some type of gear in any sport let a,one pro's would shock a lot of people.
I have tried them. I am not against them (in por sports yes of course I am) used correctly they can enhance you life massively.
If I had enough money I would still be on something (most likely just a testosterone programme
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This explains a few things. I will leave it there though, you seem quite angry today Whodunnit. Let’s just be mates?
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seems about right ... you make a claim then refuse to explain or back it up then try and change the subject.
just squirm away into your corner if you wanna be like that.
it is what it is. im good
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But you don’t debate, you just state the same thing over and over claiming you’re right and attempt to belittle anyone who disagrees.
You get aersey with me because I just stay on point which highlights your pettiness
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i know its almost as if Im trying to get you to answer to your claims but you refuse and keep squirming of on tangents.
we all know your type, you like to just say stuff whether you know its true or not and then get pulled up up on it and take zero responsibility and instead of saying you just said it without checking you just squirm squirm.
I have only spoken to you in regards to two subjects.
Maradonna's lack of PED use
and the stuff about Rabiot being a bit part player for club and country.
neither were true and you took offence to being corrected.
Iv said feel free to point out anything I say that is wrong.
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Whereas the point in both those conversations is that Rabiot would t play if Kante and Pogba were fit - which you refuse to acknowledge and that 1986 PED’s could not alone make Maradona the player he was - which you refuse to acknowledge.
Instead you keep trying to twist the argument into a completely separate question.
You need to calm down saaaaan, you will give yourself a Sean Connery otherwise
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posted on 8/12/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
this notion of PEDS dont help skill is incorrect.
How does one improve their technique and skill. Practice , practice , practice the single handily most important thing is practice.
If someone can practice harder, longer, more often then their technical ability will improve more.
On the pitch the first thing that goes when you tire is your technique, its gets sloppy. If a player can last longer before that technique starts to decline then its also helping the technical ability.
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Sure it helps indirectly by increasing the stamina, but it doesn’t give you the touch, vision and balance by itself
posted on 8/12/22
Im not argiun anything , there is nothing to argue.
I know what im talking about.
PEDS can have a good effect on your ability both in technique and fitness.
PEDS are not only restricted to making you fitter, loads out there to help other areas. confidence, decision making etc.
what the general public know is just the tip of the ice berg
posted on 8/12/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
this notion of PEDS dont help skill is incorrect.
How does one improve their technique and skill. Practice , practice , practice the single handily most important thing is practice.
If someone can practice harder, longer, more often then their technical ability will improve more.
On the pitch the first thing that goes when you tire is your technique, its gets sloppy. If a player can last longer before that technique starts to decline then its also helping the technical ability.
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Sure it helps indirectly by increasing the stamina, but it doesn’t give you the touch, vision and balance by itself
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no but it can help you develop better touch and technique. like I said you only improve those things by working on them, and if PEDS can help you practice longer, harder and more often then its can have a huge benefit in your technical ability.
posted on 8/12/22
Guys, guys - Cialis doesn't count
posted on 8/12/22
Anyway, if Maradona wasn't aff his nut would he have attempted the incredible, mazy run - eh, eh?
posted on 8/12/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 seconds ago
Im not argiun anything , there is nothing to argue.
I know what im talking about.
PEDS can have a good effect on your ability both in technique and fitness.
PEDS are not only restricted to making you fitter, loads out there to help other areas. confidence, decision making etc.
what the general public know is just the tip of the ice berg
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I’ve also no need to argue, it’s indisputable, PED’s in 1986 could not have alone turned Maradona into the player he was. Others could have been on loads of PED’s, practices twice as hard and twice as long as him but not reached 10% of his talent.
I can’t see how that can be argued with
posted on 8/12/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 11 seconds ago
Anyway, if Maradona wasn't aff his nut would he have attempted the incredible, mazy run - eh, eh?
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Yes - the man was a genius and due to the falklands war hated the British. He would have done and tried anything to get one over us.
Otherwise, did he only cheat with the hand of his because he was on PED’s?
posted on 8/12/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 seconds ago
Im not argiun anything , there is nothing to argue.
I know what im talking about.
PEDS can have a good effect on your ability both in technique and fitness.
PEDS are not only restricted to making you fitter, loads out there to help other areas. confidence, decision making etc.
what the general public know is just the tip of the ice berg
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I’ve also no need to argue, it’s indisputable, PED’s in 1986 could not have alone turned Maradona into the player he was. Others could have been on loads of PED’s, practices twice as hard and twice as long as him but not reached 10% of his talent.
I can’t see how that can be argued with
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no one has said that they alone could do anything.
your creating new arguments and trying to amalgamate it into the previous points.
facts are facts, PEDS help you in many ways not just fitness. they improve your ability, technique, decision making etc....
Mardanna used illegal methods to improve himself as a footballer, fact.
You have a lot to say about his PED use and its benefits, quite imptessive saying as you only found out 5mins ago that he used them!
posted on 8/12/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 seconds ago
Im not argiun anything , there is nothing to argue.
I know what im talking about.
PEDS can have a good effect on your ability both in technique and fitness.
PEDS are not only restricted to making you fitter, loads out there to help other areas. confidence, decision making etc.
what the general public know is just the tip of the ice berg
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I’ve also no need to argue, it’s indisputable, PED’s in 1986 could not have alone turned Maradona into the player he was. Others could have been on loads of PED’s, practices twice as hard and twice as long as him but not reached 10% of his talent.
I can’t see how that can be argued with
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no one has said that they alone could do anything.
your creating new arguments and trying to amalgamate it into the previous points.
facts are facts, PEDS help you in many ways not just fitness. they improve your ability, technique, decision making etc....
Mardanna used illegal methods to improve himself as a footballer, fact.
You have a lot to say about his PED use and its benefits, quite imptessive saying as you only found out 5mins ago that he used them!
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Look yesterday you got all aersey with me because I had a different opinion, today you are doing the same, which is ridiculous as I am mostly agreeing with you.
Yes PED’s help you in all the ways you have stated, but 1986 PED’s could not alone have turned Maradona into the phenomenon he was, the man was a genius and the PED’s helped him along a little whilst the Bugle held him back - are you seriously disagreeing with that?
Try not getting so wound up in the future, it’s okay for people to think 2 different things
posted on 8/12/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 seconds ago
Im not argiun anything , there is nothing to argue.
I know what im talking about.
PEDS can have a good effect on your ability both in technique and fitness.
PEDS are not only restricted to making you fitter, loads out there to help other areas. confidence, decision making etc.
what the general public know is just the tip of the ice berg
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ve also no need to argue, it’s indisputable, PED’s in 1986 could not have alone turned Maradona into the player he was. Others could have been on loads of PED’s, practices twice as hard and twice as long as him but not reached 10% of his talent.
I can’t see how that can be argued with
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no one has said that they alone could do anything.
your creating new arguments and trying to amalgamate it into the previous points.
facts are facts, PEDS help you in many ways not just fitness. they improve your ability, technique, decision making etc....
Mardanna used illegal methods to improve himself as a footballer, fact.
You have a lot to say about his PED use and its benefits, quite imptessive saying as you only found out 5mins ago that he used them!
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Look yesterday you got all aersey with me because I had a different opinion, today you are doing the same, which is ridiculous as I am mostly agreeing with you.
Yes PED’s help you in all the ways you have stated, but 1986 PED’s could not alone have turned Maradona into the phenomenon he was, the man was a genius and the PED’s helped him along a little whilst the Bugle held him back - are you seriously disagreeing with that?
Try not getting so wound up in the future, it’s okay for people to think 2 different things
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im correcting your opinion.
your opinion was that Maradonna didnt use PED's.
So I corrected you.
You claimed that they do not help with your technique or skill.
I explained how they can and corrected you.
your just ar$ey cause im pulling up your inaccuracies.
and as soon as you cannot argue your stance anymore you try to flip it into a personal argument rather than stay on topic and keep it relevant.
you could just thank me for educating you
posted on 8/12/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
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maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
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n the'94 WC he was done for drugs that helped with his weight loss in the build up to the tournament
posted on 8/12/22
i think you ppl need to realise how prevalent PEDs are in professional football
a huge % of pro footballers have done or do PEDs
posted on 8/12/22
Nearly all of these "legends" are from the modern era, television helps them achieve that status. Wonder how many others would also tick that box from back in the day, the greatest player ever to wear a Leeds shirt for example John Charles.
Alfredo Di Stefano must have been something to behold though 216 goals in 282 appearances for Real will never be equalled, and most of it not recoded anywhere.
posted on 8/12/22
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Maradona, yes the man cheated with the hand of God, but my word you cannot detract from his achievements. Almost single handedly (Canniggia was decent) dragged Argentina to 2 World Cup finals, winning one.
Dragged Napoli to Serie A when they were not a top club.
The thing about Maradona and drugs is, they were never performance enhancing, if anything they were the opposite. A guy like that with that talent is never going to come from the middle classes, he was dirt poor and virtually uneducated - you have to take into account his circumstances growing up for how he turned out and be a bit more open minded.
Greatest player ever, by far
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maradonna was done for performance enhancing drugs
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n the'94 WC he was done for drugs that helped with his weight loss in the build up to the tournament
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that was onr of the benefits he recieved from them.
of course when you watch his documentary they tey to sell it that way,,, aww they were just to help lose weight. no not at all !
posted on 8/12/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 seconds ago
Im not argiun anything , there is nothing to argue.
I know what im talking about.
PEDS can have a good effect on your ability both in technique and fitness.
PEDS are not only restricted to making you fitter, loads out there to help other areas. confidence, decision making etc.
what the general public know is just the tip of the ice berg
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ve also no need to argue, it’s indisputable, PED’s in 1986 could not have alone turned Maradona into the player he was. Others could have been on loads of PED’s, practices twice as hard and twice as long as him but not reached 10% of his talent.
I can’t see how that can be argued with
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no one has said that they alone could do anything.
your creating new arguments and trying to amalgamate it into the previous points.
facts are facts, PEDS help you in many ways not just fitness. they improve your ability, technique, decision making etc....
Mardanna used illegal methods to improve himself as a footballer, fact.
You have a lot to say about his PED use and its benefits, quite imptessive saying as you only found out 5mins ago that he used them!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Look yesterday you got all aersey with me because I had a different opinion, today you are doing the same, which is ridiculous as I am mostly agreeing with you.
Yes PED’s help you in all the ways you have stated, but 1986 PED’s could not alone have turned Maradona into the phenomenon he was, the man was a genius and the PED’s helped him along a little whilst the Bugle held him back - are you seriously disagreeing with that?
Try not getting so wound up in the future, it’s okay for people to think 2 different things
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im correcting your opinion.
your opinion was that Maradonna didnt use PED's.
So I corrected you.
You claimed that they do not help with your technique or skill.
I explained how they can and corrected you.
your just ar$ey cause im pulling up your inaccuracies.
and as soon as you cannot argue your stance anymore you try to flip it into a personal argument rather than stay on topic and keep it relevant.
you could just thank me for educating you
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I held up my hands on not knowing Maradona was on PED’s - so yes you educated me on that and I thank you.
The rest of the post is inaccurate and shows up your pettiness as I had highlighted earlier.
Have a good day sir
posted on 8/12/22
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
i think you ppl need to realise how prevalent PEDs are in professional football
a huge % of pro footballers have done or do PEDs
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the amount of people using some type of gear in any sport let a,one pro's would shock a lot of people.
I have tried them. I am not against them (in por sports yes of course I am) used correctly they can enhance you life massively.
If I had enough money I would still be on something (most likely just a testosterone programme
posted on 8/12/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 seconds ago
Im not argiun anything , there is nothing to argue.
I know what im talking about.
PEDS can have a good effect on your ability both in technique and fitness.
PEDS are not only restricted to making you fitter, loads out there to help other areas. confidence, decision making etc.
what the general public know is just the tip of the ice berg
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ve also no need to argue, it’s indisputable, PED’s in 1986 could not have alone turned Maradona into the player he was. Others could have been on loads of PED’s, practices twice as hard and twice as long as him but not reached 10% of his talent.
I can’t see how that can be argued with
----------------------------------------------------------------------
no one has said that they alone could do anything.
your creating new arguments and trying to amalgamate it into the previous points.
facts are facts, PEDS help you in many ways not just fitness. they improve your ability, technique, decision making etc....
Mardanna used illegal methods to improve himself as a footballer, fact.
You have a lot to say about his PED use and its benefits, quite imptessive saying as you only found out 5mins ago that he used them!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Look yesterday you got all aersey with me because I had a different opinion, today you are doing the same, which is ridiculous as I am mostly agreeing with you.
Yes PED’s help you in all the ways you have stated, but 1986 PED’s could not alone have turned Maradona into the phenomenon he was, the man was a genius and the PED’s helped him along a little whilst the Bugle held him back - are you seriously disagreeing with that?
Try not getting so wound up in the future, it’s okay for people to think 2 different things
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im correcting your opinion.
your opinion was that Maradonna didnt use PED's.
So I corrected you.
You claimed that they do not help with your technique or skill.
I explained how they can and corrected you.
your just ar$ey cause im pulling up your inaccuracies.
and as soon as you cannot argue your stance anymore you try to flip it into a personal argument rather than stay on topic and keep it relevant.
you could just thank me for educating you
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I held up my hands on not knowing Maradona was on PED’s - so yes you educated me on that and I thank you.
The rest of the post is inaccurate and shows up your pettiness as I had highlighted earlier.
Have a good day sir
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what was inaccurate?
posted on 8/12/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
i think you ppl need to realise how prevalent PEDs are in professional football
a huge % of pro footballers have done or do PEDs
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the amount of people using some type of gear in any sport let a,one pro's would shock a lot of people.
I have tried them. I am not against them (in por sports yes of course I am) used correctly they can enhance you life massively.
If I had enough money I would still be on something (most likely just a testosterone programme
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This explains a few things. I will leave it there though, you seem quite angry today Whodunnit. Let’s just be mates?
posted on 8/12/22
the amount of pro sportsmen who are legally using banned substances would shock most people.
Its not difficult to get TUPE from a doctor, all these clubs have their own doctors ... you figure it out !
posted on 8/12/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 seconds ago
the amount of pro sportsmen who are legally using banned substances would shock most people.
Its not difficult to get TUPE from a doctor, all these clubs have their own doctors ... you figure it out !
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Those Liverpool players all genuinely have asthma
posted on 8/12/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
i think you ppl need to realise how prevalent PEDs are in professional football
a huge % of pro footballers have done or do PEDs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
the amount of people using some type of gear in any sport let a,one pro's would shock a lot of people.
I have tried them. I am not against them (in por sports yes of course I am) used correctly they can enhance you life massively.
If I had enough money I would still be on something (most likely just a testosterone programme
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This explains a few things. I will leave it there though, you seem quite angry today Whodunnit. Let’s just be mates?
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seems about right ... you make a claim then refuse to explain or back it up then try and change the subject.
just squirm away into your corner if you wanna be like that.
it is what it is. im good
posted on 8/12/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 seconds ago
the amount of pro sportsmen who are legally using banned substances would shock most people.
Its not difficult to get TUPE from a doctor, all these clubs have their own doctors ... you figure it out !
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Those Liverpool players all genuinely have asthma
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every club is at it
posted on 8/12/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
i think you ppl need to realise how prevalent PEDs are in professional football
a huge % of pro footballers have done or do PEDs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
the amount of people using some type of gear in any sport let a,one pro's would shock a lot of people.
I have tried them. I am not against them (in por sports yes of course I am) used correctly they can enhance you life massively.
If I had enough money I would still be on something (most likely just a testosterone programme
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This explains a few things. I will leave it there though, you seem quite angry today Whodunnit. Let’s just be mates?
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seems about right ... you make a claim then refuse to explain or back it up then try and change the subject.
just squirm away into your corner if you wanna be like that.
it is what it is. im good
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But you don’t debate, you just state the same thing over and over claiming you’re right and attempt to belittle anyone who disagrees.
You get aersey with me because I just stay on point which highlights your pettiness
posted on 8/12/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
i think you ppl need to realise how prevalent PEDs are in professional football
a huge % of pro footballers have done or do PEDs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
the amount of people using some type of gear in any sport let a,one pro's would shock a lot of people.
I have tried them. I am not against them (in por sports yes of course I am) used correctly they can enhance you life massively.
If I had enough money I would still be on something (most likely just a testosterone programme
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This explains a few things. I will leave it there though, you seem quite angry today Whodunnit. Let’s just be mates?
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seems about right ... you make a claim then refuse to explain or back it up then try and change the subject.
just squirm away into your corner if you wanna be like that.
it is what it is. im good
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But you don’t debate, you just state the same thing over and over claiming you’re right and attempt to belittle anyone who disagrees.
You get aersey with me because I just stay on point which highlights your pettiness
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i know its almost as if Im trying to get you to answer to your claims but you refuse and keep squirming of on tangents.
we all know your type, you like to just say stuff whether you know its true or not and then get pulled up up on it and take zero responsibility and instead of saying you just said it without checking you just squirm squirm.
I have only spoken to you in regards to two subjects.
Maradonna's lack of PED use
and the stuff about Rabiot being a bit part player for club and country.
neither were true and you took offence to being corrected.
Iv said feel free to point out anything I say that is wrong.
posted on 8/12/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
i think you ppl need to realise how prevalent PEDs are in professional football
a huge % of pro footballers have done or do PEDs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
the amount of people using some type of gear in any sport let a,one pro's would shock a lot of people.
I have tried them. I am not against them (in por sports yes of course I am) used correctly they can enhance you life massively.
If I had enough money I would still be on something (most likely just a testosterone programme
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This explains a few things. I will leave it there though, you seem quite angry today Whodunnit. Let’s just be mates?
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seems about right ... you make a claim then refuse to explain or back it up then try and change the subject.
just squirm away into your corner if you wanna be like that.
it is what it is. im good
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But you don’t debate, you just state the same thing over and over claiming you’re right and attempt to belittle anyone who disagrees.
You get aersey with me because I just stay on point which highlights your pettiness
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i know its almost as if Im trying to get you to answer to your claims but you refuse and keep squirming of on tangents.
we all know your type, you like to just say stuff whether you know its true or not and then get pulled up up on it and take zero responsibility and instead of saying you just said it without checking you just squirm squirm.
I have only spoken to you in regards to two subjects.
Maradonna's lack of PED use
and the stuff about Rabiot being a bit part player for club and country.
neither were true and you took offence to being corrected.
Iv said feel free to point out anything I say that is wrong.
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Whereas the point in both those conversations is that Rabiot would t play if Kante and Pogba were fit - which you refuse to acknowledge and that 1986 PED’s could not alone make Maradona the player he was - which you refuse to acknowledge.
Instead you keep trying to twist the argument into a completely separate question.
You need to calm down saaaaan, you will give yourself a Sean Connery otherwise
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