I did chuckle to myself though. A lad at work is a Villa fan and he's been giving it the big one for months how they have replaced us in the top 6 now for good.

I think Villa thinking they are better than they think are and just reacting after a disappointing result. Villa are another team who have had a good season, but it will be difficult to maintain for next.

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 27 minutes ago
I won't be watching it myself. City win that all day long I reckon.

I didn't watch all the Forest City game myself but the 40 mins or so i did see, I thought Forest were absolutely crap. How they are 3rd in the PL is a mystery to me and I don't think they will be top 8 next year.
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Forest are dog Schitt - they only beat us 2-1

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 27 minutes ago
I won't be watching it myself. City win that all day long I reckon.

I didn't watch all the Forest City game myself but the 40 mins or so i did see, I thought Forest were absolutely crap. How they are 3rd in the PL is a mystery to me and I don't think they will be top 8 next year.
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Forest are dog Schitt - they only beat us 2-1
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Beat us twice somehow despite us having more shots, possession and XG in both meetings.

It's just been their year. Had a lot of breaks go their way and Chris Wood decided to be R9 for 5 months for first time in his career.

I suspect they will fall away next year and finish 9th - 12th something like that.

comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 7 minutes ago
I think Villa thinking they are better than they think are and just reacting after a disappointing result. Villa are another team who have had a good season, but it will be difficult to maintain for next.
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Unless they make CL they will have to sell again this summer, their wages are just not sustainable. I’m not sure they can afford to keep Rashford and Asensio either.

Emery also goes a bit weird in big games and makes some horrendous decisions - reminds me of Poch playing Son at left back in an FA cup semi against Chelsea

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 27 minutes ago
I won't be watching it myself. City win that all day long I reckon.

I didn't watch all the Forest City game myself but the 40 mins or so i did see, I thought Forest were absolutely crap. How they are 3rd in the PL is a mystery to me and I don't think they will be top 8 next year.
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Forest are dog Schitt - they only beat us 2-1
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Yet they took 4 points off Liverpool. Like I said before, Forest have benefitted from other teams being below par, but that's not just it, they have been solid enough and many players have had great seasons for them.

So they have took advantage of the circumstances whilst others have failed to. And even thought they lost 2-0 yesterday, they had good chances

I wasn't confident Rashford would make the move permanently either way but with no CL football......I genuinely don't see it. Villa need to regroup to get top 5 now. Personally I think they may just miss out.

Thing with Forest and Newcastle.....they haven't had European football to contend with this season which have given them both a real advantage fitness wise.

Much tougher for both next season juggling games every few days.

Genuinely think people are misreading Forest. Their owners have the ambition to evolve them as a team. They did so this season from relegation fodder to Europe contenders, and can do so further if the qualify for the CL.

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 35 seconds ago
I would have preferred Mateta, but I think because of how a lot have signings have turned out, we are a bit twitchy were relatively high fees are involved.
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Totally different players though so every chance we add somebody like Mateta as well. Cunha isn't a striker.
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Ha - Cunha Mateta, what a wonderful phrase
It means no worries, for the rest of your days
It’s a problem free
Philosophyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Ha - Cunha Mateta

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 35 seconds ago
I would have preferred Mateta, but I think because of how a lot have signings have turned out, we are a bit twitchy were relatively high fees are involved.
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Totally different players though so every chance we add somebody like Mateta as well. Cunha isn't a striker.
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Ha - Cunha Mateta, what a wonderful phrase
It means no worries, for the rest of your days
It’s a problem free
Philosophyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Ha - Cunha Mateta
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Literally every United's fan FPL name next season if we signed both.

comment by Calafiori Knows how to Party (U21076)
posted 29 seconds ago
Genuinely think people are misreading Forest. Their owners have the ambition to evolve them as a team. They did so this season from relegation fodder to Europe contenders, and can do so further if the qualify for the CL.
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Sure but they’ve played out of their skin - that squad is not making CL 99/100 - they’ve had a fairytale season.

Imagine next season faaacking Yates up against the Barca midfield.

They will be bottom half

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 35 seconds ago
I would have preferred Mateta, but I think because of how a lot have signings have turned out, we are a bit twitchy were relatively high fees are involved.
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Totally different players though so every chance we add somebody like Mateta as well. Cunha isn't a striker.
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Ha - Cunha Mateta, what a wonderful phrase
It means no worries, for the rest of your days
It’s a problem free
Philosophyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Ha - Cunha Mateta
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Literally every United's fan FPL name next season if we signed both.
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If that’s not a fan song then football is truly dead

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 35 seconds ago
I would have preferred Mateta, but I think because of how a lot have signings have turned out, we are a bit twitchy were relatively high fees are involved.
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Totally different players though so every chance we add somebody like Mateta as well. Cunha isn't a striker.
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Ha - Cunha Mateta, what a wonderful phrase
It means no worries, for the rest of your days
It’s a problem free
Philosophyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Ha - Cunha Mateta
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Literally every United's fan FPL name next season if we signed both.
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If that’s not a fan song then football is truly dead
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I'd just change it slightly to....

It's our 343..........Philosophy!!!!!!

Every year, there is a team that performs above average. This year it was Forest. Next season, with European football, it will be difficult to replicate, with limited resource and being involved in more games.

Villa have done well also, but for all the plaudits, they could end up losing out on CL football and no trophy............compare to a few weeks ago when they were dreaming of CL and FA Cup success etc, just shows you have fine the margins are.

The big leap is not getting European football, but maintaining it year in year out - Newcastle with their resource have a better chance of doing this. but they need to improve the squad again.

If Forest finish top 10 next season, that will be good, I think Villa will do well to finish top 5 next season also.

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 35 seconds ago
I would have preferred Mateta, but I think because of how a lot have signings have turned out, we are a bit twitchy were relatively high fees are involved.
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Totally different players though so every chance we add somebody like Mateta as well. Cunha isn't a striker.
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Ha - Cunha Mateta, what a wonderful phrase
It means no worries, for the rest of your days
It’s a problem free
Philosophyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Ha - Cunha Mateta
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Literally every United's fan FPL name next season if we signed both.
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If that’s not a fan song then football is truly dead
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Cunha Mateta.....................
Onana what a wonderful save.............hmm, wishful thinking maybe

So many variables ahead of next season. If United and Spurs have good summer windows there's no reason why either club can't finish above a lot of these clubs.

I suspect Liverpool, Arsenal and City will be top 3. After that it's up for grabs for a whole host of teams.

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
So many variables ahead of next season. If United and Spurs have good summer windows there's no reason why either club can't finish above a lot of these clubs.

I suspect Liverpool, Arsenal and City will be top 3. After that it's up for grabs for a whole host of teams.
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I'm keeping expectations low for us next season. Just want to see some tangible improvement in terms of how we play, and scoring some goals. That should result in improved results. And squad staying as injury free as possible

None of the traditional big sides are ever too far away from challenging for CL places, one good window or manager clicking is all it takes. Hell sometimes this has delivered a surprise title challenger

The league on average has improved, United and Spurs have obviously been massively underpar but you have a lot of top to decent sides at the moment, not just a "top four" that's miles above the rest.

United and Spurs will do very well to crack the top seven next season from where they are now. United are probably in the most trouble and apparently broke. I think with the right manager Spurs could turn things around with the right signings.

United don't have funds and the squad looks a long way off.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
His career is pretty much impress at small club, flop at big, impress at small club, flop at big club, impress at Wolves....
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Then it's smart going him dropping down from 13th placed Wolves to 14th placed Manchester United.

Hopefully we can get Cunha and Delap wrapped up fairly soon. I'd image any other signings will all be dependant on who we can move on which will be frustratingly slow as buyers will probably draw out any negotitiations to get a low deal for players all on high wages.

comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 57 minutes ago
The league on average has improved, United and Spurs have obviously been massively underpar but you have a lot of top to decent sides at the moment, not just a "top four" that's miles above the rest.

United and Spurs will do very well to crack the top seven next season from where they are now. United are probably in the most trouble and apparently broke. I think with the right manager Spurs could turn things around with the right signings.

United don't have funds and the squad looks a long way off.
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Forest went from 15th to 3rd in one season. It can be done and you're massively overrating how good the PL is right now also.

It's more competitive because a lot of the big teams have dropped off really more so than the others who have got a lot better.

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 57 minutes ago
The league on average has improved, United and Spurs have obviously been massively underpar but you have a lot of top to decent sides at the moment, not just a "top four" that's miles above the rest.

United and Spurs will do very well to crack the top seven next season from where they are now. United are probably in the most trouble and apparently broke. I think with the right manager Spurs could turn things around with the right signings.

United don't have funds and the squad looks a long way off.
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Forest went from 15th to 3rd in one season. It can be done and you're massively overrating how good the PL is right now also.

It's more competitive because a lot of the big teams have dropped off really more so than the others who have got a lot better.
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It can be done but it's pretty unlikely for United who have so much wrong mentally as well as quality wise. We'll see what happens but Forrest are likely having an anomaly of a season and without shrewd investment will fall back.

Think a lot of fans are currently doing mental gymnastics to cope with Liverpool winning in a very tough league. It's a shame no one pushed them but that is also because they never gave anyone the chance.

comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 57 minutes ago
The league on average has improved, United and Spurs have obviously been massively underpar but you have a lot of top to decent sides at the moment, not just a "top four" that's miles above the rest.

United and Spurs will do very well to crack the top seven next season from where they are now. United are probably in the most trouble and apparently broke. I think with the right manager Spurs could turn things around with the right signings.

United don't have funds and the squad looks a long way off.
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Forest went from 15th to 3rd in one season. It can be done and you're massively overrating how good the PL is right now also.

It's more competitive because a lot of the big teams have dropped off really more so than the others who have got a lot better.
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It can be done but it's pretty unlikely for United who have so much wrong mentally as well as quality wise. We'll see what happens but Forrest are likely having an anomaly of a season and without shrewd investment will fall back.

Think a lot of fans are currently doing mental gymnastics to cope with Liverpool winning in a very tough league. It's a shame no one pushed them but that is also because they never gave anyone the chance.
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Our goals against column is very similar to teams between 4th and 6th actually.

Our issue all season has been scoring goals. If we sign 2/3 quality forward players (Top striker + Cunha for example) we will be a lot better off than you think.

Don't forget we have taken 4pts off City, got a really good draw away to Liverpool and knocked Arsenal out of the cup on their own pitch this season alone. With a much better forward line up we'd be in and around the CL chasing clubs for sure.