comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
I’m less concerned about the inevitable cognitive decline than I am about them being a bunch of selfish, self-centred, pointlessly nostalgic cuuuuunts brought up in a relatively conservative world whose decisionmaking is heavily influenced by the 24-hour commercial news cycle, a perpetual disgruntlement borne of constant pain, and an intense jealousy of younger generations living with and enjoying much wider freedoms than they had.
You’re old, you hurt, you got married at 16 and never got to fack around in Magaluf, you aren’t even allowed to punch down on women and “the coloureds” anymore, you’re absolutely miserable, and you’ll die soon
GET OVER IT and eat your porridge up.
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They are regretting signing an agreement to sit on the couch to watch TV with one other person, every day, forever, until they die. Just because they thought they had to.
Everyone else was doing it.
Now wasted your life.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
Also I think it depends on your own political outlook but as a lifelong labour voter, I'd lean towards giving the vote to younger people purely because as you age and your wealth grows, you have a natural tendency to conserve and think selfishly. You might think the young are stupid but by and large they're going to be more idealistic in their views, which can only be a good thing. They'll fight for those less fortunate than themselves, which is what my dad instilled in me from a very young age and I still retain to this day. That's far less likely if the voting age is higher. Those scoffing at young people are really underestimating them. They're angry at the state of play. They're angry at the brexit mess left to them. They're angry at not having a say.
Let's be brutally honest here. Most people over 75 are anti-immigration, anti-Europe and anti-progress. They yearn for a time when racism was 'just a joke' and food was grown and produced here. They all want to sing Tipperary and chat about the good times with their other white friends. Well sorry, things have moved on for the better. You'd better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone for the times they are a changing.
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Brutally honest, but tosh. My papers are the Guardian and the New York times and Le Monde, all left wing.
All my family, only one now alas are lefties and remainers. I did articles at the time.
You cannot lump people together.
There’s some amazing posts on this thread
The people who invented, computers, mobiles, the www are boomers now, do the fit your view.
Where as, most knife crimes
Car accidents
Disinterested in politics , all belong to the young.
Am I supposed to think of them as you do us.0
We need more people (or an economy that allows people to afford children).
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It’s definitely the latter.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
Also I think it depends on your own political outlook but as a lifelong labour voter, I'd lean towards giving the vote to younger people purely because as you age and your wealth grows, you have a natural tendency to conserve and think selfishly. You might think the young are stupid but by and large they're going to be more idealistic in their views, which can only be a good thing. They'll fight for those less fortunate than themselves, which is what my dad instilled in me from a very young age and I still retain to this day. That's far less likely if the voting age is higher. Those scoffing at young people are really underestimating them. They're angry at the state of play. They're angry at the brexit mess left to them. They're angry at not having a say.
Let's be brutally honest here. Most people over 75 are anti-immigration, anti-Europe and anti-progress. They yearn for a time when racism was 'just a joke' and food was grown and produced here. They all want to sing Tipperary and chat about the good times with their other white friends. Well sorry, things have moved on for the better. You'd better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone for the times they are a changing.
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Brutally honest, but tosh. My papers are the Guardian and the New York times and Le Monde, all left wing.
All my family, only one now alas are lefties and remainers. I did articles at the time.
You cannot lump people together.
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Ignorant people can.
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
Can we please stop using anecdotes and individual examples of how one old person hasn't lost their mind?
You, yourself should not be allowed to vote unless you can see the bigger picture and wider statistics, and not look at anecdotal evidence. It makes you stupid.
No offence. Apart from the stupid part.
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Why not IQ tests at the polls.
Pretty sure loads of people on here would be sent home without their vote being accepted.
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
Completely agree with the OP. To further add to that, it's also natural to yearn for one's youth, however hellish it may have been politically. It's all too easy to say that when you were young everything was better. Of course it feckin was. you were young and full of hope, that's why. Nothing to do with opportunity. Most of those boomers lived through post-war depression but they were kids and had no real concept of it.
The boomers are largely the ones that got us into this Brexit mess so I'm all for lowering the voting age.
They say the true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit, but nowadays those you'd expect to plant are just tearing it down. Maybe we need to change the approach. Allow the younger generation to plant the trees. God knows they're gonna need the shade the way climate change is going.
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Great post
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The current younger generation 18 - 24 are more than capable of this, why do we need a bunch of minors influencing the future when they haven't even left school, worked a proper day in their life, paid a bill, left home and still have their washing done and packed lunch made by mummy who drives them anywhere they want to go and funds everything.
Voting in something that most will have any tangible understanding of the implications of their vote.
Question is then if your able to vote at 16 then should they go to court should they be going to adult court and then be tried like one with details released to the public?
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 hours, 30 minutes ago
Imagine a world in which the rules and safeguards around assisted dying are being formulated in Parliament, there is increasing pressure on public services, health and social care as the ratio of people of working age to retirement age continues to shift, and over-65s no longer have the right to vote. There's a decent chance that a party would get seats in parliament on a platform of euthanasia for old people who cannot support themselves through their private investments.
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This. And millenials can't be trusted as shown on here.
Soylent Green comes to mind with some of the posts on here.
Oh and btw since when we're people presently in their 90s Boomers?
Someone's cognitive abilities seem to be fading early.
Sorry. It happens.
Should old people be allowed to vote?
FFS.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
Completely agree with the OP. To further add to that, it's also natural to yearn for one's youth, however hellish it may have been politically. It's all too easy to say that when you were young everything was better. Of course it feckin was. you were young and full of hope, that's why. Nothing to do with opportunity. Most of those boomers lived through post-war depression but they were kids and had no real concept of it.
The boomers are largely the ones that got us into this Brexit mess so I'm all for lowering the voting age.
They say the true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit, but nowadays those you'd expect to plant are just tearing it down. Maybe we need to change the approach. Allow the younger generation to plant the trees. God knows they're gonna need the shade the way climate change is going.
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Great post
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The current younger generation 18 - 24 are more than capable of this, why do we need a bunch of minors influencing the future when they haven't even left school, worked a proper day in their life, paid a bill, left home and still have their washing done and packed lunch made by mummy who drives them anywhere they want to go and funds everything.
Voting in something that most will have any tangible understanding of the implications of their vote.
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18-24 year olds, and older in fact, are being forced to live at home with the parents longer because they like being molly coddled. Nothing to do with stagnated wages and being unable to buy property or afford private rents
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…I am your Premier League Champion (U2720)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just to note for one 16 year old there are 2 parents in their 60s higher up the family tree.
If there isn't a maximum to be implemented then there should definitely reduce the voting to 1 parent per child to even the voting demographic.
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Not sure that’s right as most in their 60s now wouldn’t have had children that late in life.
And if they did the children likely have downs, which means they’ll be voting Tory eventually regardless of whether they can vote at 16 or not.
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FFS
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
Completely agree with the OP. To further add to that, it's also natural to yearn for one's youth, however hellish it may have been politically. It's all too easy to say that when you were young everything was better. Of course it feckin was. you were young and full of hope, that's why. Nothing to do with opportunity. Most of those boomers lived through post-war depression but they were kids and had no real concept of it.
The boomers are largely the ones that got us into this Brexit mess so I'm all for lowering the voting age.
They say the true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit, but nowadays those you'd expect to plant are just tearing it down. Maybe we need to change the approach. Allow the younger generation to plant the trees. God knows they're gonna need the shade the way climate change is going.
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Great post
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The current younger generation 18 - 24 are more than capable of this, why do we need a bunch of minors influencing the future when they haven't even left school, worked a proper day in their life, paid a bill, left home and still have their washing done and packed lunch made by mummy who drives them anywhere they want to go and funds everything.
Voting in something that most will have any tangible understanding of the implications of their vote.
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Britain was the first democracy to bring the age of franchise down to 18 in 1969.
There was a ton of similar arguments against the relative "maturity" of 18 year olds back then.
The same arguments that were allowed to prevail in Japan until they finally lowered the voting age from 20 to 18 in 2016.
2016!
To quote the Vietnam War era slogan. "Old enough to fight, old enough to vote!"
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
Completely agree with the OP. To further add to that, it's also natural to yearn for one's youth, however hellish it may have been politically. It's all too easy to say that when you were young everything was better. Of course it feckin was. you were young and full of hope, that's why. Nothing to do with opportunity. Most of those boomers lived through post-war depression but they were kids and had no real concept of it.
The boomers are largely the ones that got us into this Brexit mess so I'm all for lowering the voting age.
They say the true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit, but nowadays those you'd expect to plant are just tearing it down. Maybe we need to change the approach. Allow the younger generation to plant the trees. God knows they're gonna need the shade the way climate change is going.
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Great post
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The current younger generation 18 - 24 are more than capable of this, why do we need a bunch of minors influencing the future when they haven't even left school, worked a proper day in their life, paid a bill, left home and still have their washing done and packed lunch made by mummy who drives them anywhere they want to go and funds everything.
Voting in something that most will have any tangible understanding of the implications of their vote.
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Yeah I reckon 90 year olds are way more clued up on some of the more important issues of our day such as social media, AI and climate change than 24 year olds are.
I reckon I could even manipulate the whole over 70s vote myself souly using AI and social media.
That's how in tune with today's goings on they are...
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posted 4 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 40 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 minutes ago
Imagine a world in which the rules and safeguards around assisted dying are being formulated in Parliament, there is increasing pressure on public services, health and social care as the ratio of people of working age to retirement age continues to shift, and over-65s no longer have the right to vote. There's a decent chance that a party would get seats in parliament on a platform of euthanasia for old people who cannot support themselves through their private investments.
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Good point, hadn’t actually considered this!
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Not really. When would they ever make that legal?
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More the principle, but with the lack of empathy in the world I could see some Solent Green scenario years down the line.
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So forced abortions for unemployed women? Same idea. Same likelihood that it would evet be made legal.
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I’ll be honest, I’m just trying to create traffic. You asked for this!
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Good point, if working age people would do their job and not WUM on football forums then productivity would increase the GDP and we'd be able to have a better standard of living.
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Boom!
Yup. This place is dead after office hours.
Imagine how much they could increase pensions if all these sciving bastirts actually put in a full day's work.
Zoomers are the biggest threat to this country since Naaazi Germany
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posted 4 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…I am your Premier League Champion (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 minutes ago
Imagine a world in which the rules and safeguards around assisted dying are being formulated in Parliament, there is increasing pressure on public services, health and social care as the ratio of people of working age to retirement age continues to shift, and over-65s no longer have the right to vote. There's a decent chance that a party would get seats in parliament on a platform of euthanasia for old people who cannot support themselves through their private investments.
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Good point, hadn’t actually considered this!
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Not really. When would they ever make that legal?
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More the principle, but with the lack of empathy in the world I could see some Solent Green scenario years down the line.
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If we can reduce our carbon footprint through euthanasia of people over 65, I think you'll find everyone under the age of 25 voting for that party
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Might even have the technology by then to use the dead bodies of pensioners as renewable energy.
They’d definitely vote for it then as it’d make them a net contributor to society by that stage rather than a drain on the public purse. Win win.
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Catch-22 though because one of the major cons to waste-to-energy is actually Co2 omissions
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Carbon capture. Like mass burials.
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
Completely agree with the OP. To further add to that, it's also natural to yearn for one's youth, however hellish it may have been politically. It's all too easy to say that when you were young everything was better. Of course it feckin was. you were young and full of hope, that's why. Nothing to do with opportunity. Most of those boomers lived through post-war depression but they were kids and had no real concept of it.
The boomers are largely the ones that got us into this Brexit mess so I'm all for lowering the voting age.
They say the true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit, but nowadays those you'd expect to plant are just tearing it down. Maybe we need to change the approach. Allow the younger generation to plant the trees. God knows they're gonna need the shade the way climate change is going.
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Great post
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The current younger generation 18 - 24 are more than capable of this, why do we need a bunch of minors influencing the future when they haven't even left school, worked a proper day in their life, paid a bill, left home and still have their washing done and packed lunch made by mummy who drives them anywhere they want to go and funds everything.
Voting in something that most will have any tangible understanding of the implications of their vote.
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Yeah I reckon 90 year olds are way more clued up on some of the more important issues of our day such as social media, AI and climate change than 24 year olds are.
I reckon I could even manipulate the whole over 70s vote myself souly using AI and social media.
That's how in tune with today's goings on they are...
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Hands up who's got that one relative about boomer age who's gone off the deep end with social media and lies in papers like The Mail?
But 18-24 year olds
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 3 hours, 55 minutes ago
Apologies btw Elvis, I’m just a traffic guy today
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You a people trafficker?
Considering more 16-17 yr olds will vote Labour and more 65 + yr olds vote Conservative then I can see why redrobbing wants an upper age limit cut off.
Why not go down the route of anyone with Alzheimer's or dementia being banned and also ban anyone who is on benefits for having any diagnosis that labels them as being autistic (or on the spectrum).
If you add IQ tests to the list thenwe will go back to the 1700's when less than 1% could legally vote
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 4 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 minutes ago
Imagine a world in which the rules and safeguards around assisted dying are being formulated in Parliament, there is increasing pressure on public services, health and social care as the ratio of people of working age to retirement age continues to shift, and over-65s no longer have the right to vote. There's a decent chance that a party would get seats in parliament on a platform of euthanasia for old people who cannot support themselves through their private investments.
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Good point, hadn’t actually considered this!
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Not really. When would they ever make that legal?
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More the principle, but with the lack of empathy in the world I could see some Solent Green scenario years down the line.
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So forced abortions for unemployed women? Same idea. Same likelihood that it would evet be made legal.
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I’ll be honest, I’m just trying to create traffic. You asked for this!
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Good point, if working age people would do their job and not WUM on football forums then productivity would increase the GDP and we'd be able to have a better standard of living.
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Boom!
Yup. This place is dead after office hours.
Imagine how much they could increase pensions if all these sciving bastirts actually put in a full day's work.
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Doing more work in an hour than boomers did in a week back in their day. Do a drawing by hand, send it off to the council by post and wait to hear back a few weeks later and the guy from the council has spilt his pint on it so you need to draw a new one.
100x the productivity of boomers, a quarter of the pay (in relative terms). Stuck in your traditional 5 day week nonsense so everyone ends up wasting probably about a third of their lives being unproductive just to suit some stupid 5 day working week tradition.
Once they die, we all get Fridays off to enjoy life because everyone can get everything done with time to spare in 4 days sat at a computer.
We are far more productive than you have ever been. So please release us.
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 4 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Apologies btw Elvis, I’m just a traffic guy today
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Boomers love traffic.
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Ironic as they shouldn’t be driving
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Is it ironic that Millenials and Gen Z have the highest number of traffic accidents, and Gen Z leads in DUI charges?
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…I am you... (U2720)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
Just to note for one 16 year old there are 2 parents in their 60s higher up the family tree.
If there isn't a maximum to be implemented then there should definitely reduce the voting to 1 parent per child to even the voting demographic.
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Lots of folk having kids in their mid forties and later?
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OT: Should there be a maximum voting age?
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posted on 17/7/25
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
I’m less concerned about the inevitable cognitive decline than I am about them being a bunch of selfish, self-centred, pointlessly nostalgic cuuuuunts brought up in a relatively conservative world whose decisionmaking is heavily influenced by the 24-hour commercial news cycle, a perpetual disgruntlement borne of constant pain, and an intense jealousy of younger generations living with and enjoying much wider freedoms than they had.
You’re old, you hurt, you got married at 16 and never got to fack around in Magaluf, you aren’t even allowed to punch down on women and “the coloureds” anymore, you’re absolutely miserable, and you’ll die soon
GET OVER IT and eat your porridge up.
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They are regretting signing an agreement to sit on the couch to watch TV with one other person, every day, forever, until they die. Just because they thought they had to.
Everyone else was doing it.
Now wasted your life.
posted on 17/7/25
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
Also I think it depends on your own political outlook but as a lifelong labour voter, I'd lean towards giving the vote to younger people purely because as you age and your wealth grows, you have a natural tendency to conserve and think selfishly. You might think the young are stupid but by and large they're going to be more idealistic in their views, which can only be a good thing. They'll fight for those less fortunate than themselves, which is what my dad instilled in me from a very young age and I still retain to this day. That's far less likely if the voting age is higher. Those scoffing at young people are really underestimating them. They're angry at the state of play. They're angry at the brexit mess left to them. They're angry at not having a say.
Let's be brutally honest here. Most people over 75 are anti-immigration, anti-Europe and anti-progress. They yearn for a time when racism was 'just a joke' and food was grown and produced here. They all want to sing Tipperary and chat about the good times with their other white friends. Well sorry, things have moved on for the better. You'd better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone for the times they are a changing.
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Brutally honest, but tosh. My papers are the Guardian and the New York times and Le Monde, all left wing.
All my family, only one now alas are lefties and remainers. I did articles at the time.
You cannot lump people together.
posted on 17/7/25
There’s some amazing posts on this thread
posted on 17/7/25
The people who invented, computers, mobiles, the www are boomers now, do the fit your view.
Where as, most knife crimes
Car accidents
Disinterested in politics , all belong to the young.
Am I supposed to think of them as you do us.0
posted on 17/7/25
Amazing/Mental
posted on 17/7/25
We need more people (or an economy that allows people to afford children).
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It’s definitely the latter.
posted on 17/7/25
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
Also I think it depends on your own political outlook but as a lifelong labour voter, I'd lean towards giving the vote to younger people purely because as you age and your wealth grows, you have a natural tendency to conserve and think selfishly. You might think the young are stupid but by and large they're going to be more idealistic in their views, which can only be a good thing. They'll fight for those less fortunate than themselves, which is what my dad instilled in me from a very young age and I still retain to this day. That's far less likely if the voting age is higher. Those scoffing at young people are really underestimating them. They're angry at the state of play. They're angry at the brexit mess left to them. They're angry at not having a say.
Let's be brutally honest here. Most people over 75 are anti-immigration, anti-Europe and anti-progress. They yearn for a time when racism was 'just a joke' and food was grown and produced here. They all want to sing Tipperary and chat about the good times with their other white friends. Well sorry, things have moved on for the better. You'd better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone for the times they are a changing.
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Brutally honest, but tosh. My papers are the Guardian and the New York times and Le Monde, all left wing.
All my family, only one now alas are lefties and remainers. I did articles at the time.
You cannot lump people together.
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Ignorant people can.
posted on 17/7/25
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
Can we please stop using anecdotes and individual examples of how one old person hasn't lost their mind?
You, yourself should not be allowed to vote unless you can see the bigger picture and wider statistics, and not look at anecdotal evidence. It makes you stupid.
No offence. Apart from the stupid part.
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Why not IQ tests at the polls.
Pretty sure loads of people on here would be sent home without their vote being accepted.
posted on 17/7/25
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
Completely agree with the OP. To further add to that, it's also natural to yearn for one's youth, however hellish it may have been politically. It's all too easy to say that when you were young everything was better. Of course it feckin was. you were young and full of hope, that's why. Nothing to do with opportunity. Most of those boomers lived through post-war depression but they were kids and had no real concept of it.
The boomers are largely the ones that got us into this Brexit mess so I'm all for lowering the voting age.
They say the true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit, but nowadays those you'd expect to plant are just tearing it down. Maybe we need to change the approach. Allow the younger generation to plant the trees. God knows they're gonna need the shade the way climate change is going.
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Great post
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The current younger generation 18 - 24 are more than capable of this, why do we need a bunch of minors influencing the future when they haven't even left school, worked a proper day in their life, paid a bill, left home and still have their washing done and packed lunch made by mummy who drives them anywhere they want to go and funds everything.
Voting in something that most will have any tangible understanding of the implications of their vote.
posted on 17/7/25
Question is then if your able to vote at 16 then should they go to court should they be going to adult court and then be tried like one with details released to the public?
posted on 17/7/25
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 hours, 30 minutes ago
Imagine a world in which the rules and safeguards around assisted dying are being formulated in Parliament, there is increasing pressure on public services, health and social care as the ratio of people of working age to retirement age continues to shift, and over-65s no longer have the right to vote. There's a decent chance that a party would get seats in parliament on a platform of euthanasia for old people who cannot support themselves through their private investments.
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This. And millenials can't be trusted as shown on here.
Soylent Green comes to mind with some of the posts on here.
Oh and btw since when we're people presently in their 90s Boomers?
Someone's cognitive abilities seem to be fading early.
Sorry. It happens.
posted on 17/7/25
Should old people be allowed to vote?
FFS.
posted on 17/7/25
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
Completely agree with the OP. To further add to that, it's also natural to yearn for one's youth, however hellish it may have been politically. It's all too easy to say that when you were young everything was better. Of course it feckin was. you were young and full of hope, that's why. Nothing to do with opportunity. Most of those boomers lived through post-war depression but they were kids and had no real concept of it.
The boomers are largely the ones that got us into this Brexit mess so I'm all for lowering the voting age.
They say the true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit, but nowadays those you'd expect to plant are just tearing it down. Maybe we need to change the approach. Allow the younger generation to plant the trees. God knows they're gonna need the shade the way climate change is going.
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Great post
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The current younger generation 18 - 24 are more than capable of this, why do we need a bunch of minors influencing the future when they haven't even left school, worked a proper day in their life, paid a bill, left home and still have their washing done and packed lunch made by mummy who drives them anywhere they want to go and funds everything.
Voting in something that most will have any tangible understanding of the implications of their vote.
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18-24 year olds, and older in fact, are being forced to live at home with the parents longer because they like being molly coddled. Nothing to do with stagnated wages and being unable to buy property or afford private rents
posted on 17/7/25
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…I am your Premier League Champion (U2720)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just to note for one 16 year old there are 2 parents in their 60s higher up the family tree.
If there isn't a maximum to be implemented then there should definitely reduce the voting to 1 parent per child to even the voting demographic.
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Not sure that’s right as most in their 60s now wouldn’t have had children that late in life.
And if they did the children likely have downs, which means they’ll be voting Tory eventually regardless of whether they can vote at 16 or not.
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FFS
posted on 17/7/25
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
Completely agree with the OP. To further add to that, it's also natural to yearn for one's youth, however hellish it may have been politically. It's all too easy to say that when you were young everything was better. Of course it feckin was. you were young and full of hope, that's why. Nothing to do with opportunity. Most of those boomers lived through post-war depression but they were kids and had no real concept of it.
The boomers are largely the ones that got us into this Brexit mess so I'm all for lowering the voting age.
They say the true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit, but nowadays those you'd expect to plant are just tearing it down. Maybe we need to change the approach. Allow the younger generation to plant the trees. God knows they're gonna need the shade the way climate change is going.
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Great post
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The current younger generation 18 - 24 are more than capable of this, why do we need a bunch of minors influencing the future when they haven't even left school, worked a proper day in their life, paid a bill, left home and still have their washing done and packed lunch made by mummy who drives them anywhere they want to go and funds everything.
Voting in something that most will have any tangible understanding of the implications of their vote.
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Britain was the first democracy to bring the age of franchise down to 18 in 1969.
There was a ton of similar arguments against the relative "maturity" of 18 year olds back then.
The same arguments that were allowed to prevail in Japan until they finally lowered the voting age from 20 to 18 in 2016.
2016!
To quote the Vietnam War era slogan. "Old enough to fight, old enough to vote!"
posted on 17/7/25
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
Completely agree with the OP. To further add to that, it's also natural to yearn for one's youth, however hellish it may have been politically. It's all too easy to say that when you were young everything was better. Of course it feckin was. you were young and full of hope, that's why. Nothing to do with opportunity. Most of those boomers lived through post-war depression but they were kids and had no real concept of it.
The boomers are largely the ones that got us into this Brexit mess so I'm all for lowering the voting age.
They say the true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit, but nowadays those you'd expect to plant are just tearing it down. Maybe we need to change the approach. Allow the younger generation to plant the trees. God knows they're gonna need the shade the way climate change is going.
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Great post
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The current younger generation 18 - 24 are more than capable of this, why do we need a bunch of minors influencing the future when they haven't even left school, worked a proper day in their life, paid a bill, left home and still have their washing done and packed lunch made by mummy who drives them anywhere they want to go and funds everything.
Voting in something that most will have any tangible understanding of the implications of their vote.
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Yeah I reckon 90 year olds are way more clued up on some of the more important issues of our day such as social media, AI and climate change than 24 year olds are.
I reckon I could even manipulate the whole over 70s vote myself souly using AI and social media.
That's how in tune with today's goings on they are...
posted on 17/7/25
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 4 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 minutes ago
Imagine a world in which the rules and safeguards around assisted dying are being formulated in Parliament, there is increasing pressure on public services, health and social care as the ratio of people of working age to retirement age continues to shift, and over-65s no longer have the right to vote. There's a decent chance that a party would get seats in parliament on a platform of euthanasia for old people who cannot support themselves through their private investments.
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Good point, hadn’t actually considered this!
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Not really. When would they ever make that legal?
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More the principle, but with the lack of empathy in the world I could see some Solent Green scenario years down the line.
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So forced abortions for unemployed women? Same idea. Same likelihood that it would evet be made legal.
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I’ll be honest, I’m just trying to create traffic. You asked for this!
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Good point, if working age people would do their job and not WUM on football forums then productivity would increase the GDP and we'd be able to have a better standard of living.
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Boom!
Yup. This place is dead after office hours.
Imagine how much they could increase pensions if all these sciving bastirts actually put in a full day's work.
posted on 17/7/25
Zoomers are the biggest threat to this country since Naaazi Germany
posted on 17/7/25
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…I am you... (U2720)
posted 4 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…I am your Premier League Champion (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 minutes ago
Imagine a world in which the rules and safeguards around assisted dying are being formulated in Parliament, there is increasing pressure on public services, health and social care as the ratio of people of working age to retirement age continues to shift, and over-65s no longer have the right to vote. There's a decent chance that a party would get seats in parliament on a platform of euthanasia for old people who cannot support themselves through their private investments.
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Good point, hadn’t actually considered this!
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Not really. When would they ever make that legal?
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More the principle, but with the lack of empathy in the world I could see some Solent Green scenario years down the line.
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If we can reduce our carbon footprint through euthanasia of people over 65, I think you'll find everyone under the age of 25 voting for that party
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Might even have the technology by then to use the dead bodies of pensioners as renewable energy.
They’d definitely vote for it then as it’d make them a net contributor to society by that stage rather than a drain on the public purse. Win win.
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Catch-22 though because one of the major cons to waste-to-energy is actually Co2 omissions
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Carbon capture. Like mass burials.
posted on 17/7/25
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
Completely agree with the OP. To further add to that, it's also natural to yearn for one's youth, however hellish it may have been politically. It's all too easy to say that when you were young everything was better. Of course it feckin was. you were young and full of hope, that's why. Nothing to do with opportunity. Most of those boomers lived through post-war depression but they were kids and had no real concept of it.
The boomers are largely the ones that got us into this Brexit mess so I'm all for lowering the voting age.
They say the true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit, but nowadays those you'd expect to plant are just tearing it down. Maybe we need to change the approach. Allow the younger generation to plant the trees. God knows they're gonna need the shade the way climate change is going.
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Great post
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The current younger generation 18 - 24 are more than capable of this, why do we need a bunch of minors influencing the future when they haven't even left school, worked a proper day in their life, paid a bill, left home and still have their washing done and packed lunch made by mummy who drives them anywhere they want to go and funds everything.
Voting in something that most will have any tangible understanding of the implications of their vote.
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Yeah I reckon 90 year olds are way more clued up on some of the more important issues of our day such as social media, AI and climate change than 24 year olds are.
I reckon I could even manipulate the whole over 70s vote myself souly using AI and social media.
That's how in tune with today's goings on they are...
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Hands up who's got that one relative about boomer age who's gone off the deep end with social media and lies in papers like The Mail?
But 18-24 year olds
posted on 17/7/25
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 3 hours, 55 minutes ago
Apologies btw Elvis, I’m just a traffic guy today
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You a people trafficker?
posted on 17/7/25
Considering more 16-17 yr olds will vote Labour and more 65 + yr olds vote Conservative then I can see why redrobbing wants an upper age limit cut off.
Why not go down the route of anyone with Alzheimer's or dementia being banned and also ban anyone who is on benefits for having any diagnosis that labels them as being autistic (or on the spectrum).
If you add IQ tests to the list thenwe will go back to the 1700's when less than 1% could legally vote
posted on 17/7/25
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 4 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 minutes ago
Imagine a world in which the rules and safeguards around assisted dying are being formulated in Parliament, there is increasing pressure on public services, health and social care as the ratio of people of working age to retirement age continues to shift, and over-65s no longer have the right to vote. There's a decent chance that a party would get seats in parliament on a platform of euthanasia for old people who cannot support themselves through their private investments.
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Good point, hadn’t actually considered this!
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Not really. When would they ever make that legal?
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More the principle, but with the lack of empathy in the world I could see some Solent Green scenario years down the line.
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So forced abortions for unemployed women? Same idea. Same likelihood that it would evet be made legal.
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I’ll be honest, I’m just trying to create traffic. You asked for this!
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Good point, if working age people would do their job and not WUM on football forums then productivity would increase the GDP and we'd be able to have a better standard of living.
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Boom!
Yup. This place is dead after office hours.
Imagine how much they could increase pensions if all these sciving bastirts actually put in a full day's work.
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Doing more work in an hour than boomers did in a week back in their day. Do a drawing by hand, send it off to the council by post and wait to hear back a few weeks later and the guy from the council has spilt his pint on it so you need to draw a new one.
100x the productivity of boomers, a quarter of the pay (in relative terms). Stuck in your traditional 5 day week nonsense so everyone ends up wasting probably about a third of their lives being unproductive just to suit some stupid 5 day working week tradition.
Once they die, we all get Fridays off to enjoy life because everyone can get everything done with time to spare in 4 days sat at a computer.
We are far more productive than you have ever been. So please release us.
posted on 17/7/25
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 4 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Emile Matthew Yaw Nyamedom Acquah (U1734)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Apologies btw Elvis, I’m just a traffic guy today
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Boomers love traffic.
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Ironic as they shouldn’t be driving
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Is it ironic that Millenials and Gen Z have the highest number of traffic accidents, and Gen Z leads in DUI charges?
posted on 17/7/25
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…I am you... (U2720)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
Just to note for one 16 year old there are 2 parents in their 60s higher up the family tree.
If there isn't a maximum to be implemented then there should definitely reduce the voting to 1 parent per child to even the voting demographic.
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Lots of folk having kids in their mid forties and later?
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