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posted on 15/9/25

Was Brian Lara the greatest lefty ever?

posted on 15/9/25

Only a matter of time before violence starts. People are confusing immigration with islamophobia. It's ok wanting the country to have more border control but don't act like it's only muslims who are entering illegally.

posted on 15/9/25

Delia Smith was there, having had a few wines, on a megaphone shouting at the lefty march....."where are you!? Where are you!?"

Few could be bothered to step away from their keyboards it would seem.

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted on 15/9/25

Peaceful protest seems to have become an oxymoron, whether you are on the right or left.

As someone from Belfast who was born in the 70s, the general feeling is that 90% of folk just want to get on with their lives and the extreme 10% or so on both sides (I am just making up those figures) will do whatever it takes to disrupt others.

Going to these protests, there seems to have been a mixture of extreme views and those who may have opinions leaning to one side or the other.

I guess it's up to individuals with less extreme views to decide whether it is worth being and be associated with those extreme views.

I see most of it as an excuse for the thugs to come out and do what they want, and then say it is in the name of this or that, and use the excuse that they are so riled up by it that they can't help but be violent.

And then certain folk will only condemn it depending on which side they are on, and of course they try to sell everything as free speech.

Trump in charge of the US. The likes of Tommy R and VR Musk (and Katie Hopkins - does she just do everyone's nut in??!!) at the weekend. Putin doing whatever he wants. Israel / Hamas etc. To name but a few.

Just a crazy world we are living in.............

posted on 15/9/25

If you think that any 'protest march' organised by the renowned far-right activist and Luton Town FC supporter Tommy Robinson was any more than a vulgar and uneducated display of white supremacist racism, islamophobia, and unbridled, frightening and aggressive English xenophobia, as Tommy has done so well for decades.... then you need to give your head a wobble. And shame on you if you actually got caught up in this nonsence and felt the need to attend this march or even supported it. And as if 3 million people turned out for it. LOL. 110,000 to 150,00 is widely reported. Are you actually able to imagine how many just 1 million things that are grouped together looks like in your tiny brains?

posted on 15/9/25

I don't understand it personally.

There's a difference between Freedom of Speech and understanding the consequences of what you say. Too many people misunderstand what that actually means.

posted on 15/9/25

comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you think that any 'protest march' organised by the renowned far-right activist and Luton Town FC supporter Tommy Robinson was any more than a vulgar and uneducated display of white supremacist racism, islamophobia, and unbridled, frightening and aggressive English xenophobia, as Tommy has done so well for decades.... then you need to give your head a wobble. And shame on you if you actually got caught up in this nonsence and felt the need to attend this march or even supported it. And as if 3 million people turned out for it. LOL. 110,000 to 150,00 is widely reported. Are you actually able to imagine how many just 1 million things that are grouped together looks like in your tiny brains?
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posted on 15/9/25

The mouthpiece on the news saying "we just want to be able to say things without getting shot"

posted on 15/9/25

comment by Mettomo (U22871)
posted 11 minutes ago
I don't understand it personally.

There's a difference between Freedom of Speech and understanding the consequences of what you say. Too many people misunderstand what that actually means.
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Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence and I wish people would understand that.

posted on 15/9/25

comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
If you think that any 'protest march' organised by the renowned far-right activist and Luton Town FC supporter Tommy Robinson was any more than a vulgar and uneducated display of white supremacist racism, islamophobia, and unbridled, frightening and aggressive English xenophobia, as Tommy has done so well for decades.... then you need to give your head a wobble. And shame on you if you actually got caught up in this nonsence and felt the need to attend this march or even supported it. And as if 3 million people turned out for it. LOL. 110,000 to 150,00 is widely reported. Are you actually able to imagine how many just 1 million things that are grouped together looks like in your tiny brains?
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I think if you dismiss everyone attending that march as "white supremacist racism, islamophobia, and unbridled, frightening and aggressive English xenophobia" then you are massively missing the point.

posted on 15/9/25

If I wanted to travel down to London to celebrate my ‘Britishness’ I would have gone to the Royal Albert Hall to watch the Last Night of The Proms

posted on 15/9/25

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
If you think that any 'protest march' organised by the renowned far-right activist and Luton Town FC supporter Tommy Robinson was any more than a vulgar and uneducated display of white supremacist racism, islamophobia, and unbridled, frightening and aggressive English xenophobia, as Tommy has done so well for decades.... then you need to give your head a wobble. And shame on you if you actually got caught up in this nonsence and felt the need to attend this march or even supported it. And as if 3 million people turned out for it. LOL. 110,000 to 150,00 is widely reported. Are you actually able to imagine how many just 1 million things that are grouped together looks like in your tiny brains?
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I think if you dismiss everyone attending that march as "white supremacist racism, islamophobia, and unbridled, frightening and aggressive English xenophobia" then you are massively missing the point.


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I think it’s fair to say the organisers hold many of those views but there’s a good bunch of impressionable people who are no where near as extreme getting swept along for the ride who would have attended.

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted on 15/9/25

The irony of 'Unite the Kingdom' protest which does anything but...........

posted on 15/9/25

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
If you think that any 'protest march' organised by the renowned far-right activist and Luton Town FC supporter Tommy Robinson was any more than a vulgar and uneducated display of white supremacist racism, islamophobia, and unbridled, frightening and aggressive English xenophobia, as Tommy has done so well for decades.... then you need to give your head a wobble. And shame on you if you actually got caught up in this nonsence and felt the need to attend this march or even supported it. And as if 3 million people turned out for it. LOL. 110,000 to 150,00 is widely reported. Are you actually able to imagine how many just 1 million things that are grouped together looks like in your tiny brains?
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I think if you dismiss everyone attending that march as "white supremacist racism, islamophobia, and unbridled, frightening and aggressive English xenophobia" then you are massively missing the point.


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I dont. I think those who 'arent that way inclined' who attended this march draped with their English (especially English Flags and not Union Flags) can't/won't/don't understand that this is what it is actually all about. I feel sorry for them.

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted on 15/9/25

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
If you think that any 'protest march' organised by the renowned far-right activist and Luton Town FC supporter Tommy Robinson was any more than a vulgar and uneducated display of white supremacist racism, islamophobia, and unbridled, frightening and aggressive English xenophobia, as Tommy has done so well for decades.... then you need to give your head a wobble. And shame on you if you actually got caught up in this nonsence and felt the need to attend this march or even supported it. And as if 3 million people turned out for it. LOL. 110,000 to 150,00 is widely reported. Are you actually able to imagine how many just 1 million things that are grouped together looks like in your tiny brains?
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I think if you dismiss everyone attending that march as "white supremacist racism, islamophobia, and unbridled, frightening and aggressive English xenophobia" then you are massively missing the point.


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That's the issue though - there is a mixture of extreme and less so, but given who is running the show, the likes of Tommy r and Musk etc, by going in whatever guise, you are associating yourself with these folk, even if you don't believe everything they say. It's naive to think otherwise

posted on 15/9/25

comment by フレッド - #TWENTYTIMES (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
If you think that any 'protest march' organised by the renowned far-right activist and Luton Town FC supporter Tommy Robinson was any more than a vulgar and uneducated display of white supremacist racism, islamophobia, and unbridled, frightening and aggressive English xenophobia, as Tommy has done so well for decades.... then you need to give your head a wobble. And shame on you if you actually got caught up in this nonsence and felt the need to attend this march or even supported it. And as if 3 million people turned out for it. LOL. 110,000 to 150,00 is widely reported. Are you actually able to imagine how many just 1 million things that are grouped together looks like in your tiny brains?
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I think if you dismiss everyone attending that march as "white supremacist racism, islamophobia, and unbridled, frightening and aggressive English xenophobia" then you are massively missing the point.


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I think it’s fair to say the organisers hold many of those views but there’s a good bunch of impressionable people who are no where near as extreme getting swept along for the ride who would have attended.
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Indeed, but there is a much broader picture of discontent and if people ignore that, if Starmer ignores that, then it will lead to greater unrest and it will cost his his job.

To tar everyone who attended with the same brush as the extreme element who organised it, and their hardcore followers, is blinkered.

https://x.com/according2_taz/status/1967208814052364711

posted on 15/9/25

comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
If you think that any 'protest march' organised by the renowned far-right activist and Luton Town FC supporter Tommy Robinson was any more than a vulgar and uneducated display of white supremacist racism, islamophobia, and unbridled, frightening and aggressive English xenophobia, as Tommy has done so well for decades.... then you need to give your head a wobble. And shame on you if you actually got caught up in this nonsence and felt the need to attend this march or even supported it. And as if 3 million people turned out for it. LOL. 110,000 to 150,00 is widely reported. Are you actually able to imagine how many just 1 million things that are grouped together looks like in your tiny brains?
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I think if you dismiss everyone attending that march as "white supremacist racism, islamophobia, and unbridled, frightening and aggressive English xenophobia" then you are massively missing the point.


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That's the issue though - there is a mixture of extreme and less so, but given who is running the show, the likes of Tommy r and Musk etc, by going in whatever guise, you are associating yourself with these folk, even if you don't believe everything they say. It's naive to think otherwise
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May be it is naive but it is also wrong to assume that those who felt motivated to join the march are all weak minded idiots who will come round to the same way of thinking.

posted on 15/9/25

Indeed, but there is a much broader picture of discontent and if people ignore that, if Starmer ignores that, then it will lead to greater unrest and it will cost his his job.
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But you wre happy to put up with this with it when your lot ran the country... Sunak, Truss, Boris etc.(remenber them?) and Co were in power. You lost the election badly and so the right you shifts the blame of the dire state of the country created in the last 15 years onto the new governement, who at least want to try fix things up... but the country just doesnt have the money to do it with.

posted on 15/9/25

'Freedom of speech march'

Call it what it is. At least be proud of what you are.

posted on 15/9/25

Most everyone there will be consuming the same misinformation ... I know somewhat sensible, somewhat clever people who genuinely believe that Leicester is 80% muslim now.

Social media is corrupting their views and whether they consider themselves racist or not.. Those ideas and planted in their head.

posted on 15/9/25

are*

posted on 15/9/25

comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
Indeed, but there is a much broader picture of discontent and if people ignore that, if Starmer ignores that, then it will lead to greater unrest and it will cost his his job.
______


But you wre happy to put up with this with it when your lot ran the country... Sunak, Truss, Boris etc.(remenber them?) and Co were in power. You lost the election badly and so the right you shifts the blame of the dire state of the country created in the last 15 years onto the new governement, who at least want to try fix things up... but the country just doesnt have the money to do it with.
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Im not making a party point. I agree that this has been building up and Boris followed by Sunaks woeful action on immigration has contributed massively.

I think it was the Tories last year where net migration was 800k and people voted for change. They havent got change in fact we have seen a Government going against the people, taking it to the law courts and admitting that the rights of asylum seekers trump those of UK citizens. That is a massive failure to "read the room" a lot of people are angered by this
very principle...aside from any immigration issue.

If you want to debate the issues then do so. This "but you were happy when...." whataboutery is just pathetic

posted on 15/9/25

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 3 minutes ago
Most everyone there will be consuming the same misinformation ... I know somewhat sensible, somewhat clever people who genuinely believe that Leicester is 80% muslim now.

Social media is corrupting their views and whether they consider themselves racist or not.. Those ideas and planted in their head.
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How do you know what circa 150,000 people read and believe, or what their motives were for attending.

The binary thinking of people on both sides is pure idiocy IMO.

posted on 15/9/25

Devonshire does have a point in that there is clearly a widespread sense of discord across the country and simply dismissing every single person as “racist” doesn’t help you. In fact it just further embeds these extremist viewpoints.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 15/9/25

When you applaud and cheer a foreigner on a big screen riling up our citizens to overthrow our government, you're a traitor. No ifs or buts.

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