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shall we concentrate on the discussion at hand, rather than being led down a side path.

TBOK, my comments were directed at Xiggly and not Peterbaey, so Peterbaey's comment is misplaced.

I know xiggly from the past, he's just doing the same thing in his current incarnation.


Just in case you were wondering who xiggly was it's Brayns Bond - Friend of Nelson Mandella and Chrstian Horner (U16152)

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Your opinion is the law but ours are wrong as well as other experts.
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but what ive done is stated my opinion.

although my opinion differs to yours, i havent said that you must be new to f1, or called you an idiot or said that you must now be crying like a little girl (as you do). ive just posted my opinion, and presented a rational analysis/justification of that opinion.

in posting these scores, what it actually does is open myself up to easy criticism, but for the sake of moving the DISCUSSION forward, I thought it was worthwhile to do that. You can if you wish though reply to my previous comments instead of that one, if you find it offensive for me to try to provide an analytical analysis of my view, rather than just back it up with insults and name calling

I don't think that Brayns is xiggly.

Xiggly had a very distinctive style which no one would want to copy.

Brayns created this article purely to provoke a reaction and then complains when he got one. As far as I can see the insults have come from Brayns rather than anyone else.

I am still puzzled as to why no mention or appreciation of Newey's role in Vettels success story. It is obvious to any F1 follower.

As far as I can see the insults have come from Brayns rather than anyone else.
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agh, tactic nr 2 in deployment now from WTCBU : the 'change the subject' smokescreen

i tell you what WTCBU - you list out the insults ive put on these recent threads then (i cant think of any but there may have been 1), and i'll list the insults by you and Manu

Mate, he's xiggly, he's tried to hide his posting style but I've debated long and hard with him to know he's the one.

Xiggly, as you know, we've had discussions in the past and I'm more than happy to debate with you. Leave the digs at home and post, then we can talk.

Xiggly, I've called you a girl, I even admitted that was an insult but haven't really done anything apart from question your knowledge of the sport.

Is anyone on the forum who they say they are? lol

As far as the actual topic goes yes Vettel is one of the best, and with the current regs and his car there's the strong argument that he is the best.
Cars and regs change so we shall see what he can do in future, but I have no reason to currently doubt him.

ok. so here are the insults ive found from the 3 discussion threads. i saw one i did that could maybe be classed as an insult btw, so good luck with your list


comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 2 days, 17 hours ago
He is rubbish

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 2 days, 17 hours ago
Wrong – you are daft

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 days, 4 hours ago
So which one are you, a returning banned user or a multiple account holder?

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
This isn't rocket science my friend

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 days, 1 hour ago
You my friend are (a) clown.

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 1 day, 23 hours ago
You are absolutely right (for a change)
I AM saddened.


comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 1 day, 17 hours ago
You should have studied F1 a bit more before making another fool of yourself.

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 1 day, 17 hours ago
But he is a crash kikd and you are a kid that has crashed.

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 15 hours, 44 minutes ago
Aristodemus (U3765) Brayns will never reply to you because his sole aim of visiting this forum is because he has a childish chip on his shoulder.

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 15 hours, 44 minutes ago
The guy knows nothing about F1

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
The bile is showing.

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
He won't tell you mate. He'll come back, post another dig at Hamilton and ignore your post.
He's not here for debate

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 23 hours, 4 minutes ago
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posted 15 hours, 35 minutes ago
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posted 15 hours, 26 minutes ago
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posted 15 hours, 26 minutes ago
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comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 hours, 52 minutes ago
So stop crying like a little girl
Now, there's an insult

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
Aaaah the innocence and naivety of the less than average football fan. Along comes the international break and a gang of poor fools get bored with football and try their luck with another sport they know nothing about.

Of course the first stop is F1 and have a go at Lewis Hamilton, the only driver they have ever heard of.

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
Peterbaey - Arsenal Invented Football (U3245) has, for some reason best known to himself, decided to make a laughing stock of himself

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
Unfortunately, the next international break is 5 months away and we will have to suffer a long break before we can laugh at this fool again.

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
So the opinion of this particular not very intelligent sad Peterbaey - Arsenal Invented Football (U3245) is that Lewis Hamilton is only rated by some English people.


comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
I would normally advise you to stick to football but judging by your postings you don't seem to know much about that either.

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 week, 5 days ago
What can you do but pity the poor idiot who created this stupid article.

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 week, 5 days ago
Dear boy, this article only serves to further enhance your reputation as the village idiot, nothing more

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 week, 5 days ago
My comments are directed at you my boy. Your article creates that opportunity. Commenting about the content of your article is pointless, just like you


comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 1 week, 3 days ago
Yes celebrating being mocked does make you look a doghnut so at least you have recognised that simple fact.

AND MY PERSONAL FAVOURITE :

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 1 week, 5 days ago
Peterbaey - Everton Invented Football (U3245)
You come across as a bit thick.
Maybe you should have gone to school.




Now that we've got that out of the way, maybe we could get back to what was actually quite an interesting discussion until it was derailed in the last few comments ?

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i am not xiggly by the way

and have never heard of him for that matter.

how many nemises have you 2 lads had on this forum btw ????

im taking a break for a bit. back later probably.

if we carry it on, maybe we can just stick to the subject matter, cos it's a pretty decent conversation mostly

I remember xiggly

on here, or the old 606 ?

ive followed both on and off.

tbh though the only name i remember other than those present is tshephoram or whatever he was called. i coundlt stand him while he was on here, but finally worked him out lately andi think he was spot on tbh.

anyway, enough of the bickering. does anyone have any comments on my points scoring system on the previous page, or any any of the other substantive comments ?

on 606. I remember having a debate about Jean Alesi with him.

he must have known something about f1 then to have a debate about jean alesi.

i always think that alesi is synonomous with gerhard burger. (i hope that wasnt the debate because i honestly am not him and have never heard of him)

Wow, you are really sensitive. I didn't know I hurt your feelings. You even are unhappy about the abuse that Peterbaey got as well.

I called you a clown because you called me one my friend.

Didn't know you were this touchy, I'll try to moderate the tone of my posts in the future to ensure I do not offend your sensibilities

You are xiggly my boy, stop denying it. Sussed you out earlier

You are xiggly my boy, stop denying it. Sussed you out earlier
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probably about the same time you sussed out that the back to back world champion is an "average" driver

The back to back world champion is nothing special. He's got a special car, that's all. Even you highlighted his mediocre ability

mediocre in some aspects (at this stage in his career), but not in those required to deliver a WDC, which at the end of the day, is the bottom line isnt it ?

That depends my friend. Stats are always impressive but skill, technique and passion are always remembered by the faithful and your peers

Statistically Vettel is superb and is on the way to be a man with superb stats.

Talentwise and racing ability, he'll need to go somewhere else to show that as Jackie Stewart so eloquently explained