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comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
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comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
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comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
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comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
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comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
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You're talking about stuff that happened a long time ago - I'm pretty sure any historical figure you might chose to pick would have something about their life we'd find dubious now. I'm not expert on the Koran, but assuming it doesn't say "feck kids", I'm not sure how Mo's marriage is relevant.
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So either it's an ancient book that no one should believe in this day and age or it isn't?
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Dont want to sound pretentious/arrogant/facetious but right here is the issue and why an in depth study/discussion is needed around issues
The quran and the hadith are the 2 ruling bodies (for want of a better word) for muslims. And there needs to be a basic understanding of how these work. Muslims and non muslims dont have this in, I would argue, most cases
Put simply hadith and quran has issues it deals with that are specific for its time and future. Some people mix the 2
FOr muslims its not hard to understand why that happens. MAin reason is countries with Islam as the main religion are largely illiterate/uneducated and the powers that be manipulate for their own purposes
For non muslims what often gets portrayed is snippets without context
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This manipulation is one of the worst parts of religion wouldn't you agree?
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But surely using what ever books to manipulate someone or a group is not the religions fault. Its just evil people.
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Please....
Religion would not exist without people.....surely you can agree with that?
(or we wouldn't know about it as we wouldn't be here etc)
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Yes I agree, but you cannot blame the religion itself.
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OK....
Is it healthy to love someone you fear?
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Eh ?
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It's not a difficult question mate
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Your question is nonsense. If you are implying that you love god because of fear, then that person has got the wrong end of the stick.
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you're not allowed to leave either or change your mind
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Improving on Galvs, improving on.
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 5 minutes ago
Shiiit the bed.....If Koeman and I agree on this I just found God
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unfortunately we do
but you can change your mind if you would rather be in agreement with the 'flock'
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
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comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 5 minutes ago
Shiiit the bed.....If Koeman and I agree on this I just found God
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unfortunately we do
but you can change your mind if you would rather be in agreement with the 'flock'
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I need to take some time to reflect on my views
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I'm your own personal Jesus....someone to hear your prayers, someone who cares
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 5 minutes ago
Well there is that of course....
Each religion copying/piggybacking a previous one....
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You are aware that some religions would call it one religion and not lots of different ones. Abrahamic faiths are called exactly that.
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Pick up the receiver, I'll make you a believer.
Also I think another issue with politics is there is such a lack of people out there speaking 'the truth' or at least their version, that people get fixated by people like Jonathon Pie (in the OP).
They are even asking him to run for PM lol.
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
posted 58 seconds ago
Zlat
There is a word for people who believe women should hold greater power and rights to men: misandrist, the opposite of a misogynist.
I would not argue that there are some misandrists who would categorise themselves as 'radical feminists'. But that categorisation would be false and an affront to the 100 years and more of sacrifice and pain feminists have suffered in their fight towards a true equality.
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Problem with discussion on websites is that the depth isnt there in a discussion and things come across as statements which can be taken any way
In principle I agree to a degree. However I am more inclined towards feminism exceeding what it was set up for. If indeed those who were behind the early movement did indeed do any sacrificing
What I mean here is that very early women who took up the cause did so with male backing. Many being middle/upper class and having a certain view of what a women should and shouldnt do which would be against modern femenism
As I say many causes start off good but then exceed their own boundaries. I dont see feminism today , in the main, as being about equality
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Well I actually find that very sad, and I hope you are in the minority, because looking across the world, I see the continuing struggle for equality of the sexes as one of the biggest challenges for us in the 21st century.
Why do you Brits want Obama to be your PM?
comment by Freedom FC (Welcome to Texas) (U7214)
posted 1 minute ago
Why do you Brits want Obama to be your PM?
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Haha, who is saying that?
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I dunno. It was a viral post on Facebook and Twitter. Y'all are nuts if you want Obama.
comment by Freedom FC (Welcome to Texas) (U7214)
posted 26 seconds ago
I dunno. It was a viral post on Facebook and Twitter. Y'all are nuts if you want Obama.
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Have you not seen what we have? It's a freak show up there at the moment.
http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2016/11/liberal_britons_are_desperate.html
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comment by Freedom FC (Welcome to Texas) (U7214)
posted 1 minute ago
I dunno. It was a viral post on Facebook and Twitter. Y'all are nuts if you want Obama.
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I think in a straight up head-to-head, I'd take him over May. Or Johnson. Or <shudder> Farage.
Would rather Obama than May.
Obama had a pretty good stint in the states, but largely a lot didnt get done but thats the way the states are run #backwards
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comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
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comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
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comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 2 minutes ago
You're talking about stuff that happened a long time ago - I'm pretty sure any historical figure you might chose to pick would have something about their life we'd find dubious now. I'm not expert on the Koran, but assuming it doesn't say "feck kids", I'm not sure how Mo's marriage is relevant.
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So either it's an ancient book that no one should believe in this day and age or it isn't?
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Dont want to sound pretentious/arrogant/facetious but right here is the issue and why an in depth study/discussion is needed around issues
The quran and the hadith are the 2 ruling bodies (for want of a better word) for muslims. And there needs to be a basic understanding of how these work. Muslims and non muslims dont have this in, I would argue, most cases
Put simply hadith and quran has issues it deals with that are specific for its time and future. Some people mix the 2
FOr muslims its not hard to understand why that happens. MAin reason is countries with Islam as the main religion are largely illiterate/uneducated and the powers that be manipulate for their own purposes
For non muslims what often gets portrayed is snippets without context
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This manipulation is one of the worst parts of religion wouldn't you agree?
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But surely using what ever books to manipulate someone or a group is not the religions fault. Its just evil people.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please....
Religion would not exist without people.....surely you can agree with that?
(or we wouldn't know about it as we wouldn't be here etc)
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Yes I agree, but you cannot blame the religion itself.
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OK....
Is it healthy to love someone you fear?
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Eh ?
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It's not a difficult question mate
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Your question is nonsense. If you are implying that you love god because of fear, then that person has got the wrong end of the stick.
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you're not allowed to leave either or change your mind
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Improving on Galvs, improving on.
posted on 15/11/16
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 5 minutes ago
Shiiit the bed.....If Koeman and I agree on this I just found God
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unfortunately we do
but you can change your mind if you would rather be in agreement with the 'flock'
posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 5 minutes ago
Shiiit the bed.....If Koeman and I agree on this I just found God
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unfortunately we do
but you can change your mind if you would rather be in agreement with the 'flock'
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I need to take some time to reflect on my views
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I'm your own personal Jesus....someone to hear your prayers, someone who cares
posted on 15/11/16
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 5 minutes ago
Well there is that of course....
Each religion copying/piggybacking a previous one....
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You are aware that some religions would call it one religion and not lots of different ones. Abrahamic faiths are called exactly that.
posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
Pick up the receiver, I'll make you a believer.
posted on 15/11/16
Also I think another issue with politics is there is such a lack of people out there speaking 'the truth' or at least their version, that people get fixated by people like Jonathon Pie (in the OP).
They are even asking him to run for PM lol.
posted on 15/11/16
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
posted 58 seconds ago
Zlat
There is a word for people who believe women should hold greater power and rights to men: misandrist, the opposite of a misogynist.
I would not argue that there are some misandrists who would categorise themselves as 'radical feminists'. But that categorisation would be false and an affront to the 100 years and more of sacrifice and pain feminists have suffered in their fight towards a true equality.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Problem with discussion on websites is that the depth isnt there in a discussion and things come across as statements which can be taken any way
In principle I agree to a degree. However I am more inclined towards feminism exceeding what it was set up for. If indeed those who were behind the early movement did indeed do any sacrificing
What I mean here is that very early women who took up the cause did so with male backing. Many being middle/upper class and having a certain view of what a women should and shouldnt do which would be against modern femenism
As I say many causes start off good but then exceed their own boundaries. I dont see feminism today , in the main, as being about equality
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Well I actually find that very sad, and I hope you are in the minority, because looking across the world, I see the continuing struggle for equality of the sexes as one of the biggest challenges for us in the 21st century.
posted on 15/11/16
Why do you Brits want Obama to be your PM?
posted on 15/11/16
comment by Freedom FC (Welcome to Texas) (U7214)
posted 1 minute ago
Why do you Brits want Obama to be your PM?
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Haha, who is saying that?
posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
I dunno. It was a viral post on Facebook and Twitter. Y'all are nuts if you want Obama.
posted on 15/11/16
comment by Freedom FC (Welcome to Texas) (U7214)
posted 26 seconds ago
I dunno. It was a viral post on Facebook and Twitter. Y'all are nuts if you want Obama.
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Have you not seen what we have? It's a freak show up there at the moment.
posted on 15/11/16
http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2016/11/liberal_britons_are_desperate.html
posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
Huh. That bad eh?
posted on 15/11/16
comment by Freedom FC (Welcome to Texas) (U7214)
posted 1 minute ago
I dunno. It was a viral post on Facebook and Twitter. Y'all are nuts if you want Obama.
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I think in a straight up head-to-head, I'd take him over May. Or Johnson. Or <shudder> Farage.
posted on 15/11/16
Would rather Obama than May.
Obama had a pretty good stint in the states, but largely a lot didnt get done but thats the way the states are run #backwards
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