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Zlat
There is a word for people who believe women should hold greater power and rights to men: misandrist, the opposite of a misogynist.
I would not argue that there are some misandrists who would categorise themselves as 'radical feminists'. But that categorisation would be false and an affront to the 100 years and more of sacrifice and pain feminists have suffered in their fight towards a true equality.
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Problem with discussion on websites is that the depth isnt there in a discussion and things come across as statements which can be taken any way
In principle I agree to a degree. However I am more inclined towards feminism exceeding what it was set up for. If indeed those who were behind the early movement did indeed do any sacrificing
What I mean here is that very early women who took up the cause did so with male backing. Many being middle/upper class and having a certain view of what a women should and shouldnt do which would be against modern femenism
As I say many causes start off good but then exceed their own boundaries. I dont see feminism today , in the main, as being about equality
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Well I actually find that very sad, and I hope you are in the minority, because looking across the world, I see the continuing struggle for equality of the sexes as one of the biggest challenges for us in the 21st century.
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Not seeing something being about equality is not the same as not wanting equality.
The challenge is not about equality around the world its about accepting difference and inter relating.
Further more some freedoms are anything but that.
Besides I am of the belief that women are the most likely to hold other women back than men. Sure its a general statement but in the main that's what it is.
Problem as always is that we don't look at the issues in detail.
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comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 50 seconds ago
(dont tell me that wasn't HIS policy.....)
It wasn't though was it...
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Regardless of that one...or the sick poster of refugees, he and Boris were the poster boys
Both of them ran away like cowards on day one.
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Boris is in govt and Farage iscentre stage, after getting brexit.......do you have access to info.
The people reject the liberal left, rich elite, mass immigration, and being strangers in our own lands.
Times have changed😉
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 4 hours, 20 minutes ago
His policy was to get us out of the EU,mission accomplished
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We haven't left.
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Pedant.
Brussels, the chattering classes, bob geldoff, cameron,
Corbyn, generals, juncker, banks, imf all lost the democratic vote.
We haven't left.
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We won the lottery,just waiting for the cheque.
religion that are the problem, secondly there are some evidence to show some events did really happen. Thirdly while currently a lot of problems don't seem to be from the western region, are we forgetting a lot of christian wars. I mean dear I say Hitler.
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Hitler was an atheist, his dislike of Jews was not based on religious beliefs
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posted 4 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 17 minutes ago
His policy was to get us out of the EU,mission accomplished,you didn't actually believe that about the money going to the NHS?
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No...hence why I think whoever made the lie should be brought to task for it.
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This actually never used by actual leave campaigners as saying it would happen, it was merely something that could happen.
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
religion that are the problem, secondly there are some evidence to show some events did really happen. Thirdly while currently a lot of problems don't seem to be from the western region, are we forgetting a lot of christian wars. I mean dear I say Hitler.
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Hitler was an atheist, his dislike of Jews was not based on religious beliefs
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Hitler was a Christian although I wouldn't blame his actions on Christianity you could argue some parts of it set the scene.
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Brussels, the chattering classes, bob geldoff, cameron,
Corbyn, generals, juncker, banks, imf all lost the democratic vote.
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TBH Corbyn doesn't really like the EU either (the impression most people get) so you and him both won that one....
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 4 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 17 minutes ago
His policy was to get us out of the EU,mission accomplished,you didn't actually believe that about the money going to the NHS?
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No...hence why I think whoever made the lie should be brought to task for it.
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This actually never used by actual leave campaigners as saying it would happen, it was merely something that could happen.
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If they were selling a product using such tactics they'd probably get done for misleading advertising, they knew exactly what they were doing.
The people reject the liberal left
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You make it sound as if the left have actually had power....
We'd had years of Tory governments either side of Tony Blair who was practically Margaret Thatcher's heir.
What's clear though is the right wing neo-liberal policy is starting to wear down on people, the elite's taking a bigger and bigger share is starting to sting and people are getting angry. When things like Trump and Tories running Brexit not only fail to reverse it but with their right wing policy accelerate it then we do have a hope of left wing governance in this country.
If you'd asked me 5-10 years ago I'd have said no chance but there is real hope on the horizon for the first time in a long time.
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I live how all these people are rejecting the rich elite
....................................
It's amazing that some people believe the success of a campaign led by Tories and UKIP (Brexit) and voting in a billionaire republican Is somehow sticking it to the elite.
Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and Donald Trump.... hero's of the working man
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comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
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posted 33 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
posted 58 seconds ago
Zlat
There is a word for people who believe women should hold greater power and rights to men: misandrist, the opposite of a misogynist.
I would not argue that there are some misandrists who would categorise themselves as 'radical feminists'. But that categorisation would be false and an affront to the 100 years and more of sacrifice and pain feminists have suffered in their fight towards a true equality.
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Problem with discussion on websites is that the depth isnt there in a discussion and things come across as statements which can be taken any way
In principle I agree to a degree. However I am more inclined towards feminism exceeding what it was set up for. If indeed those who were behind the early movement did indeed do any sacrificing
What I mean here is that very early women who took up the cause did so with male backing. Many being middle/upper class and having a certain view of what a women should and shouldnt do which would be against modern femenism
As I say many causes start off good but then exceed their own boundaries. I dont see feminism today , in the main, as being about equality
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Well I actually find that very sad, and I hope you are in the minority, because looking across the world, I see the continuing struggle for equality of the sexes as one of the biggest challenges for us in the 21st century.
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Not seeing something being about equality is not the same as not wanting equality.
The challenge is not about equality around the world its about accepting difference and inter relating.
Further more some freedoms are anything but that.
Besides I am of the belief that women are the most likely to hold other women back than men. Sure its a general statement but in the main that's what it is.
Problem as always is that we don't look at the issues in detail.
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Agree on that last point.
But it still seems you have a very different idea about what feminism is to me when you say things like, "Besides, I am of the belief that women are the most likely to hold other women back than men."
What relevance does that have? Feminism is not a battle of the sexes. It's not about one gender trying to put one over on the other. It's the exact opposite of that.
You wouldn't describe the civil rights movement as a battle of the races; as blacks trying to put one over on whites. All it is about is equality.
Feminists - men and women - have been and are only asking for equality. Women are still a country mile away from that, particularly outside the West, where they often don't have a vote, are unable to work, are constrained to the home, don't have access to education, are mistreated physically and psychologically, are unable to associate with people outside their family, and worse.
Along with climate change, the related water crisis and habitat destruction, and the rebirth of nationalism, I'd say the treatment of women is one of the key issues we have to address in the 21st century.
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Oxford Dictionaries has declared "post-truth" as its 2016 international word of the year.
It is defined as an adjective relating to circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than emotional appeals.
Post-truth, which has become associated with the phrase "post-truth politics", was chosen ahead of other political terms, including "Brexiteer" and "alt-right".
It was chosen from a shortlist selected to reflect the social, cultural, political, economic, and technological trends and events of 2016.
What does this help tell us about how our species is maturing?
comment by Yes way Jose (U5768)
posted 8 minutes ago
I live how all these people are rejecting the rich elite
....................................
It's amazing that some people believe the success of a campaign led by Tories and UKIP (Brexit) and voting in a billionaire republican Is somehow sticking it to the elite.
Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and Donald Trump.... hero's of the working man
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comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
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comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
posted 58 seconds ago
Zlat
There is a word for people who believe women should hold greater power and rights to men: misandrist, the opposite of a misogynist.
I would not argue that there are some misandrists who would categorise themselves as 'radical feminists'. But that categorisation would be false and an affront to the 100 years and more of sacrifice and pain feminists have suffered in their fight towards a true equality.
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Problem with discussion on websites is that the depth isnt there in a discussion and things come across as statements which can be taken any way
In principle I agree to a degree. However I am more inclined towards feminism exceeding what it was set up for. If indeed those who were behind the early movement did indeed do any sacrificing
What I mean here is that very early women who took up the cause did so with male backing. Many being middle/upper class and having a certain view of what a women should and shouldnt do which would be against modern femenism
As I say many causes start off good but then exceed their own boundaries. I dont see feminism today , in the main, as being about equality
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Well I actually find that very sad, and I hope you are in the minority, because looking across the world, I see the continuing struggle for equality of the sexes as one of the biggest challenges for us in the 21st century.
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Not seeing something being about equality is not the same as not wanting equality.
The challenge is not about equality around the world its about accepting difference and inter relating.
Further more some freedoms are anything but that.
Besides I am of the belief that women are the most likely to hold other women back than men. Sure its a general statement but in the main that's what it is.
Problem as always is that we don't look at the issues in detail.
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Agree on that last point.
But it still seems you have a very different idea about what feminism is to me when you say things like, "Besides, I am of the belief that women are the most likely to hold other women back than men."
What relevance does that have? Feminism is not a battle of the sexes. It's not about one gender trying to put one over on the other. It's the exact opposite of that.
You wouldn't describe the civil rights movement as a battle of the races; as blacks trying to put one over on whites. All it is about is equality.
Feminists - men and women - have been and are only asking for equality. Women are still a country mile away from that, particularly outside the West, where they often don't have a vote, are unable to work, are constrained to the home, don't have access to education, are mistreated physically and psychologically, are unable to associate with people outside their family, and worse.
Along with climate change, the related water crisis and habitat destruction, and the rebirth of nationalism, I'd say the treatment of women is one of the key issues we have to address in the 21st century.
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I understand what your saying and to a degree I agree. However, apart from equality, what is it that women want. It seems to me that sometimes it does look like that they want equality but at the same time some at least want to be treated like a little girl. This by definition goes against being equal.
comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
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Oxford Dictionaries has declared "post-truth" as its 2016 international word of the year.
It is defined as an adjective relating to circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than emotional appeals.
Post-truth, which has become associated with the phrase "post-truth politics", was chosen ahead of other political terms, including "Brexiteer" and "alt-right".
It was chosen from a shortlist selected to reflect the social, cultural, political, economic, and technological trends and events of 2016.
What does this help tell us about how our species is maturing?
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Sounds like a side step to me. It's not particularly different to the principles of religion.
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comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
posted 58 seconds ago
Zlat
There is a word for people who believe women should hold greater power and rights to men: misandrist, the opposite of a misogynist.
I would not argue that there are some misandrists who would categorise themselves as 'radical feminists'. But that categorisation would be false and an affront to the 100 years and more of sacrifice and pain feminists have suffered in their fight towards a true equality.
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Problem with discussion on websites is that the depth isnt there in a discussion and things come across as statements which can be taken any way
In principle I agree to a degree. However I am more inclined towards feminism exceeding what it was set up for. If indeed those who were behind the early movement did indeed do any sacrificing
What I mean here is that very early women who took up the cause did so with male backing. Many being middle/upper class and having a certain view of what a women should and shouldnt do which would be against modern femenism
As I say many causes start off good but then exceed their own boundaries. I dont see feminism today , in the main, as being about equality
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Well I actually find that very sad, and I hope you are in the minority, because looking across the world, I see the continuing struggle for equality of the sexes as one of the biggest challenges for us in the 21st century.
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Not seeing something being about equality is not the same as not wanting equality.
The challenge is not about equality around the world its about accepting difference and inter relating.
Further more some freedoms are anything but that.
Besides I am of the belief that women are the most likely to hold other women back than men. Sure its a general statement but in the main that's what it is.
Problem as always is that we don't look at the issues in detail.
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Agree on that last point.
But it still seems you have a very different idea about what feminism is to me when you say things like, "Besides, I am of the belief that women are the most likely to hold other women back than men."
What relevance does that have? Feminism is not a battle of the sexes. It's not about one gender trying to put one over on the other. It's the exact opposite of that.
You wouldn't describe the civil rights movement as a battle of the races; as blacks trying to put one over on whites. All it is about is equality.
Feminists - men and women - have been and are only asking for equality. Women are still a country mile away from that, particularly outside the West, where they often don't have a vote, are unable to work, are constrained to the home, don't have access to education, are mistreated physically and psychologically, are unable to associate with people outside their family, and worse.
Along with climate change, the related water crisis and habitat destruction, and the rebirth of nationalism, I'd say the treatment of women is one of the key issues we have to address in the 21st century.
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I understand what your saying and to a degree I agree. However, apart from equality, what is it that women want. It seems to me that sometimes it does look like that they want equality but at the same time some at least want to be treated like a little girl. This by definition goes against being equal.
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Can I ask how old you are?
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what's that got to do with anything
So left v right is getting boring we all agree?
How about a centre party who are just sound, logical, non fanatical and make informed decisions based on facts.
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comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
posted 58 seconds ago
Zlat
There is a word for people who believe women should hold greater power and rights to men: misandrist, the opposite of a misogynist.
I would not argue that there are some misandrists who would categorise themselves as 'radical feminists'. But that categorisation would be false and an affront to the 100 years and more of sacrifice and pain feminists have suffered in their fight towards a true equality.
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Problem with discussion on websites is that the depth isnt there in a discussion and things come across as statements which can be taken any way
In principle I agree to a degree. However I am more inclined towards feminism exceeding what it was set up for. If indeed those who were behind the early movement did indeed do any sacrificing
What I mean here is that very early women who took up the cause did so with male backing. Many being middle/upper class and having a certain view of what a women should and shouldnt do which would be against modern femenism
As I say many causes start off good but then exceed their own boundaries. I dont see feminism today , in the main, as being about equality
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Well I actually find that very sad, and I hope you are in the minority, because looking across the world, I see the continuing struggle for equality of the sexes as one of the biggest challenges for us in the 21st century.
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Not seeing something being about equality is not the same as not wanting equality.
The challenge is not about equality around the world its about accepting difference and inter relating.
Further more some freedoms are anything but that.
Besides I am of the belief that women are the most likely to hold other women back than men. Sure its a general statement but in the main that's what it is.
Problem as always is that we don't look at the issues in detail.
posted on 15/11/16
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 4 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 50 seconds ago
(dont tell me that wasn't HIS policy.....)
It wasn't though was it...
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Regardless of that one...or the sick poster of refugees, he and Boris were the poster boys
Both of them ran away like cowards on day one.
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Boris is in govt and Farage iscentre stage, after getting brexit.......do you have access to info.
The people reject the liberal left, rich elite, mass immigration, and being strangers in our own lands.
Times have changed😉
posted on 15/11/16
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 4 hours, 20 minutes ago
His policy was to get us out of the EU,mission accomplished
---
We haven't left.
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Pedant.
Brussels, the chattering classes, bob geldoff, cameron,
Corbyn, generals, juncker, banks, imf all lost the democratic vote.
posted on 15/11/16
We haven't left.
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We won the lottery,just waiting for the cheque.
posted on 15/11/16
religion that are the problem, secondly there are some evidence to show some events did really happen. Thirdly while currently a lot of problems don't seem to be from the western region, are we forgetting a lot of christian wars. I mean dear I say Hitler.
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Hitler was an atheist, his dislike of Jews was not based on religious beliefs
posted on 15/11/16
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 4 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 17 minutes ago
His policy was to get us out of the EU,mission accomplished,you didn't actually believe that about the money going to the NHS?
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No...hence why I think whoever made the lie should be brought to task for it.
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This actually never used by actual leave campaigners as saying it would happen, it was merely something that could happen.
posted on 16/11/16
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
religion that are the problem, secondly there are some evidence to show some events did really happen. Thirdly while currently a lot of problems don't seem to be from the western region, are we forgetting a lot of christian wars. I mean dear I say Hitler.
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Hitler was an atheist, his dislike of Jews was not based on religious beliefs
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Hitler was a Christian although I wouldn't blame his actions on Christianity you could argue some parts of it set the scene.
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Brussels, the chattering classes, bob geldoff, cameron,
Corbyn, generals, juncker, banks, imf all lost the democratic vote.
..................................
TBH Corbyn doesn't really like the EU either (the impression most people get) so you and him both won that one....
posted on 16/11/16
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 3 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 4 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 17 minutes ago
His policy was to get us out of the EU,mission accomplished,you didn't actually believe that about the money going to the NHS?
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No...hence why I think whoever made the lie should be brought to task for it.
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This actually never used by actual leave campaigners as saying it would happen, it was merely something that could happen.
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If they were selling a product using such tactics they'd probably get done for misleading advertising, they knew exactly what they were doing.
posted on 16/11/16
The people reject the liberal left
...............................
You make it sound as if the left have actually had power....
We'd had years of Tory governments either side of Tony Blair who was practically Margaret Thatcher's heir.
What's clear though is the right wing neo-liberal policy is starting to wear down on people, the elite's taking a bigger and bigger share is starting to sting and people are getting angry. When things like Trump and Tories running Brexit not only fail to reverse it but with their right wing policy accelerate it then we do have a hope of left wing governance in this country.
If you'd asked me 5-10 years ago I'd have said no chance but there is real hope on the horizon for the first time in a long time.
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I live how all these people are rejecting the rich elite
....................................
It's amazing that some people believe the success of a campaign led by Tories and UKIP (Brexit) and voting in a billionaire republican Is somehow sticking it to the elite.
Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and Donald Trump.... hero's of the working man
posted on 16/11/16
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posted on 16/11/16
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posted 14 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
posted 58 seconds ago
Zlat
There is a word for people who believe women should hold greater power and rights to men: misandrist, the opposite of a misogynist.
I would not argue that there are some misandrists who would categorise themselves as 'radical feminists'. But that categorisation would be false and an affront to the 100 years and more of sacrifice and pain feminists have suffered in their fight towards a true equality.
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Problem with discussion on websites is that the depth isnt there in a discussion and things come across as statements which can be taken any way
In principle I agree to a degree. However I am more inclined towards feminism exceeding what it was set up for. If indeed those who were behind the early movement did indeed do any sacrificing
What I mean here is that very early women who took up the cause did so with male backing. Many being middle/upper class and having a certain view of what a women should and shouldnt do which would be against modern femenism
As I say many causes start off good but then exceed their own boundaries. I dont see feminism today , in the main, as being about equality
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Well I actually find that very sad, and I hope you are in the minority, because looking across the world, I see the continuing struggle for equality of the sexes as one of the biggest challenges for us in the 21st century.
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Not seeing something being about equality is not the same as not wanting equality.
The challenge is not about equality around the world its about accepting difference and inter relating.
Further more some freedoms are anything but that.
Besides I am of the belief that women are the most likely to hold other women back than men. Sure its a general statement but in the main that's what it is.
Problem as always is that we don't look at the issues in detail.
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Agree on that last point.
But it still seems you have a very different idea about what feminism is to me when you say things like, "Besides, I am of the belief that women are the most likely to hold other women back than men."
What relevance does that have? Feminism is not a battle of the sexes. It's not about one gender trying to put one over on the other. It's the exact opposite of that.
You wouldn't describe the civil rights movement as a battle of the races; as blacks trying to put one over on whites. All it is about is equality.
Feminists - men and women - have been and are only asking for equality. Women are still a country mile away from that, particularly outside the West, where they often don't have a vote, are unable to work, are constrained to the home, don't have access to education, are mistreated physically and psychologically, are unable to associate with people outside their family, and worse.
Along with climate change, the related water crisis and habitat destruction, and the rebirth of nationalism, I'd say the treatment of women is one of the key issues we have to address in the 21st century.
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Oxford Dictionaries has declared "post-truth" as its 2016 international word of the year.
It is defined as an adjective relating to circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than emotional appeals.
Post-truth, which has become associated with the phrase "post-truth politics", was chosen ahead of other political terms, including "Brexiteer" and "alt-right".
It was chosen from a shortlist selected to reflect the social, cultural, political, economic, and technological trends and events of 2016.
What does this help tell us about how our species is maturing?
posted on 16/11/16
comment by Yes way Jose (U5768)
posted 8 minutes ago
I live how all these people are rejecting the rich elite
....................................
It's amazing that some people believe the success of a campaign led by Tories and UKIP (Brexit) and voting in a billionaire republican Is somehow sticking it to the elite.
Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and Donald Trump.... hero's of the working man
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 16/11/16
comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 14 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
posted 58 seconds ago
Zlat
There is a word for people who believe women should hold greater power and rights to men: misandrist, the opposite of a misogynist.
I would not argue that there are some misandrists who would categorise themselves as 'radical feminists'. But that categorisation would be false and an affront to the 100 years and more of sacrifice and pain feminists have suffered in their fight towards a true equality.
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Problem with discussion on websites is that the depth isnt there in a discussion and things come across as statements which can be taken any way
In principle I agree to a degree. However I am more inclined towards feminism exceeding what it was set up for. If indeed those who were behind the early movement did indeed do any sacrificing
What I mean here is that very early women who took up the cause did so with male backing. Many being middle/upper class and having a certain view of what a women should and shouldnt do which would be against modern femenism
As I say many causes start off good but then exceed their own boundaries. I dont see feminism today , in the main, as being about equality
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Well I actually find that very sad, and I hope you are in the minority, because looking across the world, I see the continuing struggle for equality of the sexes as one of the biggest challenges for us in the 21st century.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not seeing something being about equality is not the same as not wanting equality.
The challenge is not about equality around the world its about accepting difference and inter relating.
Further more some freedoms are anything but that.
Besides I am of the belief that women are the most likely to hold other women back than men. Sure its a general statement but in the main that's what it is.
Problem as always is that we don't look at the issues in detail.
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Agree on that last point.
But it still seems you have a very different idea about what feminism is to me when you say things like, "Besides, I am of the belief that women are the most likely to hold other women back than men."
What relevance does that have? Feminism is not a battle of the sexes. It's not about one gender trying to put one over on the other. It's the exact opposite of that.
You wouldn't describe the civil rights movement as a battle of the races; as blacks trying to put one over on whites. All it is about is equality.
Feminists - men and women - have been and are only asking for equality. Women are still a country mile away from that, particularly outside the West, where they often don't have a vote, are unable to work, are constrained to the home, don't have access to education, are mistreated physically and psychologically, are unable to associate with people outside their family, and worse.
Along with climate change, the related water crisis and habitat destruction, and the rebirth of nationalism, I'd say the treatment of women is one of the key issues we have to address in the 21st century.
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I understand what your saying and to a degree I agree. However, apart from equality, what is it that women want. It seems to me that sometimes it does look like that they want equality but at the same time some at least want to be treated like a little girl. This by definition goes against being equal.
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Oxford Dictionaries has declared "post-truth" as its 2016 international word of the year.
It is defined as an adjective relating to circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than emotional appeals.
Post-truth, which has become associated with the phrase "post-truth politics", was chosen ahead of other political terms, including "Brexiteer" and "alt-right".
It was chosen from a shortlist selected to reflect the social, cultural, political, economic, and technological trends and events of 2016.
What does this help tell us about how our species is maturing?
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Sounds like a side step to me. It's not particularly different to the principles of religion.
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There is a word for people who believe women should hold greater power and rights to men: misandrist, the opposite of a misogynist.
I would not argue that there are some misandrists who would categorise themselves as 'radical feminists'. But that categorisation would be false and an affront to the 100 years and more of sacrifice and pain feminists have suffered in their fight towards a true equality.
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Problem with discussion on websites is that the depth isnt there in a discussion and things come across as statements which can be taken any way
In principle I agree to a degree. However I am more inclined towards feminism exceeding what it was set up for. If indeed those who were behind the early movement did indeed do any sacrificing
What I mean here is that very early women who took up the cause did so with male backing. Many being middle/upper class and having a certain view of what a women should and shouldnt do which would be against modern femenism
As I say many causes start off good but then exceed their own boundaries. I dont see feminism today , in the main, as being about equality
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Well I actually find that very sad, and I hope you are in the minority, because looking across the world, I see the continuing struggle for equality of the sexes as one of the biggest challenges for us in the 21st century.
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Not seeing something being about equality is not the same as not wanting equality.
The challenge is not about equality around the world its about accepting difference and inter relating.
Further more some freedoms are anything but that.
Besides I am of the belief that women are the most likely to hold other women back than men. Sure its a general statement but in the main that's what it is.
Problem as always is that we don't look at the issues in detail.
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Agree on that last point.
But it still seems you have a very different idea about what feminism is to me when you say things like, "Besides, I am of the belief that women are the most likely to hold other women back than men."
What relevance does that have? Feminism is not a battle of the sexes. It's not about one gender trying to put one over on the other. It's the exact opposite of that.
You wouldn't describe the civil rights movement as a battle of the races; as blacks trying to put one over on whites. All it is about is equality.
Feminists - men and women - have been and are only asking for equality. Women are still a country mile away from that, particularly outside the West, where they often don't have a vote, are unable to work, are constrained to the home, don't have access to education, are mistreated physically and psychologically, are unable to associate with people outside their family, and worse.
Along with climate change, the related water crisis and habitat destruction, and the rebirth of nationalism, I'd say the treatment of women is one of the key issues we have to address in the 21st century.
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I understand what your saying and to a degree I agree. However, apart from equality, what is it that women want. It seems to me that sometimes it does look like that they want equality but at the same time some at least want to be treated like a little girl. This by definition goes against being equal.
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Can I ask how old you are?
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what's that got to do with anything
posted on 16/11/16
So left v right is getting boring we all agree?
How about a centre party who are just sound, logical, non fanatical and make informed decisions based on facts.
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