comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
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comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 14 seconds ago
And if you want to go as far as your statement as you have never actually seen it. Then how the F do you know the earth is round.

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There are videos of it spinning from Space...
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Well the way KYB is debating is that it has never been seen before his eyes or if there are articles it's made up. With that logic who is to say the videos have not been made up.
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Do you think they are made up?
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Of course I don't, but it fits KYB logic.

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 21 seconds ago
& they all only give Charity to 'their people' and their 'mythical religion' so even in charity is is plugging divisiveness and prejudice.
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What a weird lie. You clearly don't actually know what people actually do, so you make up a horrible version.
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I've seen this happen so I will stand by what I've said.

comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 33 seconds ago
& they all only give Charity to 'their people' and their 'mythical religion' so even in charity is is plugging divisiveness and prejudice.
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False
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it isn't false....alot of British muslims are sending money straight abroad to muslim charities over home ones.
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so "they all" is not "allot" and all religiosn are nwo Musilm?

comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 33 seconds ago
& they all only give Charity to 'their people' and their 'mythical religion' so even in charity is is plugging divisiveness and prejudice.
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False
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it isn't false....alot of British muslims are sending money straight abroad to muslim charities over home ones.
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is that cultural or religious?

comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
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comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 33 seconds ago
& they all only give Charity to 'their people' and their 'mythical religion' so even in charity is is plugging divisiveness and prejudice.
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False
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it isn't false....alot of British muslims are sending money straight abroad to muslim charities over home ones.
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is that cultural or religious?
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it's wrong.

This guy is walking cliche.

You've walked into one here Koeman.

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comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
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comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 33 seconds ago
& they all only give Charity to 'their people' and their 'mythical religion' so even in charity is is plugging divisiveness and prejudice.
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False
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it isn't false....alot of British muslims are sending money straight abroad to muslim charities over home ones.
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so "they all" is not "allot" and all religiosn are nwo Musilm?
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just one of many examples for you, don't jump on the muslim soapbox, it is one of many divisive religions

It is a bit different. A video from NASA is easier to believe than a game of Chinese whispers ending in some guys with superpowers

comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 4 seconds ago
Noah's Ark real
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and they are getting angry now as standard

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
rossobianchi

What about my points around the liberalisation of college campus? Especially in the liberal agenda of trying to control cirriculm?
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I don't know enough about those things to comment kneerash, but I will endeavour to read up

comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 3 minutes ago
& they all only give Charity to 'their people' and their 'mythical religion' so even in charity is is plugging divisiveness and prejudice.
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Not true in general. There maybe specific people who do this but that would be against the message in Islam

Charity is a huge issue in Islam and fyi one of the most cited charitable acts from Islam is that a Jew woman used to throw rubbish at Muhammad and one day she didnt so he went to her house, found her to be ill and cleaned up her house for her.

comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 33 seconds ago
& they all only give Charity to 'their people' and their 'mythical religion' so even in charity is is plugging divisiveness and prejudice.
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False
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it isn't false....alot of British muslims are sending money straight abroad to muslim charities over home ones.
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is that cultural or religious?
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it's wrong.
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I'm not saying it's right, what I am saying is that I think you are now getting miked up between religion and culture.

Having said that, I know a lot of Muslims who donate locally, in this country. So your statement is incorrect.

comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
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comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 33 seconds ago
& they all only give Charity to 'their people' and their 'mythical religion' so even in charity is is plugging divisiveness and prejudice.
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False
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it isn't false....alot of British muslims are sending money straight abroad to muslim charities over home ones.
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so "they all" is not "allot" and all religiosn are nwo Musilm?
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just one of many examples for you, don't jump on the muslim soapbox, it is one of many divisive religions
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Don't try get away from your first comment I'm standing on no soap box.

You know what you claimed, why not just say OK I was wrong in how I said that then provide your examples?

comment by The Sniper (U21079)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Sniper (U21079)
posted 2 minutes ago
rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! -

Yes, it is condemning the treatment of women but is full of nonsense and religious propaganda that has no factual evidence behind it. Many of these cultural practices stem from religious beliefs.
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As did the Inquisition, the Crusades, the ritual slaughter of the Burmese by Buddhists, the witch hunts, the Bartholomew's Day Massacre, the Pogroms in Russia and Germany...

I am no fan of organised religion, in part because it has allowed centuries-old works of fiction to be twisted and manipulated to support the control of people.

But your point was that "things like this [have] given the left a bad rep and is making them disliked," referring to an article that condemns the mistreatment of women in modern-day autocratic Islamic regimes.

If an article, which actually tries to bring some context and evidence, works to persuade people that that under their Islamic beliefs they have an obligation to ensure the fair treatment of women, I fail to see how that's a negative.
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I think it's a negative because it's a distortion of the truth. I care about the facts first and foremost. The left can’t take a moral high ground in regards to telling the facts if they are willing to distort them just in order to be politically correct. I understand many in the left would also discredit articles such as this but similar articles can be found all across the left wing media.
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What in the article is a distortion of the truth?

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
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comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
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comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 33 seconds ago
& they all only give Charity to 'their people' and their 'mythical religion' so even in charity is is plugging divisiveness and prejudice.
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False
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it isn't false....alot of British muslims are sending money straight abroad to muslim charities over home ones.
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so "they all" is not "allot" and all religiosn are nwo Musilm?
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just one of many examples for you, don't jump on the muslim soapbox, it is one of many divisive religions
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Don't try get away from your first commentI'm standing on no soap box.

You know what you claimed, why not just say OK I was wrong in how I said that then provide your examples?
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No I made an example of a situation where people are sending money to charities abroad over home charities based on the money going to people who are the same religion over fellow British people, an example of divisiveness that comes from religion, don't try and turn it into a muslim thing to shut the debate down.

comment by rossobianchi says WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB! (U17054)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
rossobianchi

What about my points around the liberalisation of college campus? Especially in the liberal agenda of trying to control cirriculm?
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I don't know enough about those things to comment kneerash, but I will endeavour to read up
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Do have a read up on it mate it's very interesting to see the change and how it is being driven in many colleges.

comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
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comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
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comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 33 seconds ago
& they all only give Charity to 'their people' and their 'mythical religion' so even in charity is is plugging divisiveness and prejudice.
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False
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it isn't false....alot of British muslims are sending money straight abroad to muslim charities over home ones.
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so "they all" is not "allot" and all religiosn are nwo Musilm?
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just one of many examples for you, don't jump on the muslim soapbox, it is one of many divisive religions
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Don't try get away from your first commentI'm standing on no soap box.

You know what you claimed, why not just say OK I was wrong in how I said that then provide your examples?
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No I made an example of a situation where people are sending money to charities abroad over home charities based on the money going to people who are the same religion over fellow British people, an example of divisiveness that comes from religion, don't try and turn it into a muslim thing to shut the debate down.
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Again this is people not religion, if you want to go out on a limb, it may be cultural, but again not religious.

comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by The Sniper (U21079)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Sniper (U21079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 2 minutes ago
Am I correct in thinking that you are saying we should condemn all religion because some religious people are assh0les?
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I think we need to be truthful in regards to them and not try to sugarcoat things. None are based on any factual evidence and all contain potetially harmful material which we need to be honest about. Trying to ignore this will just lead to further problems rather than solve them.
The left are often quite critical of Christianity, yet tend to ignore the damage caused by other, non-Western religions, partly because they don't won't to appear racist. This sort of mentality isn't going to solve anything.
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Hold on, firstly it's people not religion that are the problem, secondly there are some evidence to show some events did really happen. Thirdly while currently a lot of problems don't seem to be from the western region, are we forgetting a lot of christian wars. I mean dear I say Hitler.

I don’t think Hitler was motivated by Christianity. I think he was a theist but his comments would range from religious fundamentalism to militant Darwinist. Hitler’s religious beliefs were quite muddled generally.

I think the issue with the Islamists is that they appear to be very much motivated by their religious beliefs. I mean, you just have to listen to what they say as they make their intentions quite clear.

I don’t actually think religion is the only problem and I actually think much good has come from religion - but by ignoring the bad aspects, you are also ignoring the truth.
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This is the problem ignorance. Islamist extremism has nothing to do with Islam. This is the whole issue, with people saying lets use the Muslim community to solve this. You cannot. It has nothing to do with the actual religion. They have just hijacked it and using it against one another. Islamist extremist views are not of that from Islam, in which case would you blame the religion or the person Hijacking it.
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Exactly.

George W Bush said that God told him to invade Iraq. Was that a Christian act? Hardly.

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comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 33 seconds ago
& they all only give Charity to 'their people' and their 'mythical religion' so even in charity is is plugging divisiveness and prejudice.
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False
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it isn't false....alot of British muslims are sending money straight abroad to muslim charities over home ones.
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You obviously dont understand the notion of charity form Islam. zakat or sadaqah

These have their own rules and zakat, for example is specific.

The main issue with muslims not giving money to mainstream charities, even though many still do, is because Islam forbids any percentage to be taken from a donation. Many charities (incuding Islamic relief etc) use money donated for ''admin purposes'' and often only 2p or less of a pound reaches the target. Islam forbids this and says 100% should go to the target.

So people like me who dont give to mainstream charities (muslim or not) do so because we want 100% of the money to go to the intended muslim or non muslim

comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
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comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
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comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
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comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
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comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 33 seconds ago
& they all only give Charity to 'their people' and their 'mythical religion' so even in charity is is plugging divisiveness and prejudice.
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False
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it isn't false....alot of British muslims are sending money straight abroad to muslim charities over home ones.
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so "they all" is not "allot" and all religiosn are nwo Musilm?
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just one of many examples for you, don't jump on the muslim soapbox, it is one of many divisive religions
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Don't try get away from your first commentI'm standing on no soap box.

You know what you claimed, why not just say OK I was wrong in how I said that then provide your examples?
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No I made an example of a situation where people are sending money to charities abroad over home charities based on the money going to people who are the same religion over fellow British people, an example of divisiveness that comes from religion, don't try and turn it into a muslim thing to shut the debate down.
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Again this is people not religion, if you want to go out on a limb, it may be cultural, but again not religious.
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No I'm sorry it is religious, a follower of one religion values their life over a follower of another religion or a general non-believer like me, as prejudiced and divisive as it gets.

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comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
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comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
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comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
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comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
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comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 33 seconds ago
& they all only give Charity to 'their people' and their 'mythical religion' so even in charity is is plugging divisiveness and prejudice.
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False
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it isn't false....alot of British muslims are sending money straight abroad to muslim charities over home ones.
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so "they all" is not "allot" and all religiosn are nwo Musilm?
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just one of many examples for you, don't jump on the muslim soapbox, it is one of many divisive religions
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Don't try get away from your first commentI'm standing on no soap box.

You know what you claimed, why not just say OK I was wrong in how I said that then provide your examples?
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No I made an example of a situation where people are sending money to charities abroad over home charities based on the money going to people who are the same religion over fellow British people, an example of divisiveness that comes from religion, don't try and turn it into a muslim thing to shut the debate down.
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You said

"& they all only give Charity to 'their people' and their 'mythical religion' so even in charity is is plugging divisiveness and prejudice."

Note, they all and their, you've moved the goal posts since you first posted this.

No one has denied what you said to be false, there could be lots of people who do only donate to charaties that give to their religion, however there are also loads who don't, which refutes your claim of "they all"

You posted it

And YOU brought Muslim into it FFS