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posted on 15/11/16

comment by Galvs. (U10415)
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comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
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comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 second ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.

God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
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so what are you suggesting that religion is not enriching people's lives, when clearly it is in this situation.
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It can give people comfort
It's not the 'nice' ones that are the problem, clearly.
But then,. good people don't do bad things, religious or otherwise..Moot point.


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keep back tracking there chief
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Sorry...have I offended your Lord?

Grow up
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You tpye this and then tel lme to grow up

It's easy debating you mate.
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Well easy...rage typing....
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Ah yes, call me angry, a sure sign you're doing well in the debate.

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posted on 15/11/16

comment by Galvs. (U10415)
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comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.

God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
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So ignorant, she was born and raised in a Catholic community and has always had God as part of her life, you not believing in god doesn't make everyone who does so sort of fool.

You just cannot understand what religion does for a sane person who believes in it because you;re too narrow minded to view it any other way, dare I say you're not being very liberal here

A believer doesn't need God to be moralwhat they do is take the fundamental teachings of their chosen text, love, peace, love they neighbour etc. and try to apply these teachings to their everyday lives.

It is the EXACT same thing as you reading an aethiests teachings on morality and applying these to your life.

Open your eyes and your mind skip
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So she knows about her church supporting slavery....( I suppose God did too so that's fair) or Fascism? that's fine too....how about paedophile priests and the Pope preferring to cover it up then help God's own children?
As long as she has a coffee morning then all the evil can be forgotten

She does not need God to have a social life.....if that't your argument for religion I think its a wasted one.
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I think your missing the point here, its not religions fault all those nasty things happen. Its people once again. Pedo priest, do you actually think the bible, thora and all other testaments condone this sort of behaviour.
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They condone lots of evil things.....
However.....these people go to heaven anyway.....
That's not right is it?
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who says they do, you? themselves, of course they will say it. A crazy homicidal person can say well I will go to heaven after this. Are you seriously going to believe them.

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posted on 15/11/16

comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.

God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ignorant, she was born and raised in a Catholic community and has always had God as part of her life, you not believing in god doesn't make everyone who does so sort of fool.

You just cannot understand what religion does for a sane person who believes in it because you;re too narrow minded to view it any other way, dare I say you're not being very liberal here

A believer doesn't need God to be moralwhat they do is take the fundamental teachings of their chosen text, love, peace, love they neighbour etc. and try to apply these teachings to their everyday lives.

It is the EXACT same thing as you reading an aethiests teachings on morality and applying these to your life.

Open your eyes and your mind skip
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So she knows about her church supporting slavery....( I suppose God did too so that's fair) or Fascism? that's fine too....how about paedophile priests and the Pope preferring to cover it up then help God's own children?
As long as she has a coffee morning then all the evil can be forgotten

She does not need God to have a social life.....if that't your argument for religion I think its a wasted one.
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We can go round i ncircles here all day, I could point to the millions of peole the church has helped just as easily as you can point to all it's wrongs

My point is you dismiss relion completley but fail to even acknowledge the good it does in peoples lives, the socail element I describe is onyl one part.

What it so bad abotu a person who feels bad about something, prays and then feels better?

I'll point out here I am not religious, I am not a fan of the catholic chuch for some of the reason you point out, however I really think you need to step back and try see it from another perspective.
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I've seen all the 'good'
I appreciate good people
I'm going after the bad
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Why thank you for being the moral champion who goes after the "bad"

You cleary don't appreciate good people who happen to be religious because you dismiss them outright immediatley.

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comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.

God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ignorant, she was born and raised in a Catholic community and has always had God as part of her life, you not believing in god doesn't make everyone who does so sort of fool.

You just cannot understand what religion does for a sane person who believes in it because you;re too narrow minded to view it any other way, dare I say you're not being very liberal here

A believer doesn't need God to be moralwhat they do is take the fundamental teachings of their chosen text, love, peace, love they neighbour etc. and try to apply these teachings to their everyday lives.

It is the EXACT same thing as you reading an aethiests teachings on morality and applying these to your life.

Open your eyes and your mind skip
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Pretty much my outlook on it too. I am not religious. At all, but I see no innate harm in those that are.

As someone else said somewhere here, good people really don't do bad things. If they do a bad thing in the name of their religion, they were never a good person - it's feck all to do with their religion.

posted on 15/11/16

comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.

God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ignorant, she was born and raised in a Catholic community and has always had God as part of her life, you not believing in god doesn't make everyone who does so sort of fool.

You just cannot understand what religion does for a sane person who believes in it because you;re too narrow minded to view it any other way, dare I say you're not being very liberal here

A believer doesn't need God to be moralwhat they do is take the fundamental teachings of their chosen text, love, peace, love they neighbour etc. and try to apply these teachings to their everyday lives.

It is the EXACT same thing as you reading an aethiests teachings on morality and applying these to your life.

Open your eyes and your mind skip
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So she knows about her church supporting slavery....( I suppose God did too so that's fair) or Fascism? that's fine too....how about paedophile priests and the Pope preferring to cover it up then help God's own children?
As long as she has a coffee morning then all the evil can be forgotten

She does not need God to have a social life.....if that't your argument for religion I think its a wasted one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think your missing the point here, its not religions fault all those nasty things happen. Its people once again. Pedo priest, do you actually think the bible, thora and all other testaments condone this sort of behaviour.
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They condone lots of evil things.....
However.....these people go to heaven anyway.....
That's not right is it?
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How are they condoning evil things, you think they go to church and all high five eachother based on Hitlers actions of a priest fiddling a kid?


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No...it's just their top man (him with the direct line to God) who condones such filth.
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And so you think they all follow the Pope blindly, they don't question soem of his actions?

You're showing a lack of basic understanding, which is understandable as you seem to me to have no experience with normal religious people.

I'll ask you again as you either missed it or decided to ignore:

What is wrong with a person who feels bad for some reason, prays to their God, and then feels better?

Are you a supporter of someone with mental health issues seeing a therapist?

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No...again I am talking about things written in the Bible.

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Sorry i didn't realise that the bible had chapter on pedo priest going to heaven.

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So your issue is strictly the exact text of the Bible?

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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
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comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
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No...again I am talking about things written in the Bible.

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Sorry i didn't realise that the bible had chapter on pedo priest going to heaven.
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Does it need one?
As long as he says sorry for rape/murder/abuse he gets his ticket anyway
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again... who is saying this. Clearly you have no clue. If it is not in the Bible and in the teachings surely that tells you it's people not the religion.

posted on 15/11/16

comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.

God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ignorant, she was born and raised in a Catholic community and has always had God as part of her life, you not believing in god doesn't make everyone who does so sort of fool.

You just cannot understand what religion does for a sane person who believes in it because you;re too narrow minded to view it any other way, dare I say you're not being very liberal here

A believer doesn't need God to be moralwhat they do is take the fundamental teachings of their chosen text, love, peace, love they neighbour etc. and try to apply these teachings to their everyday lives.

It is the EXACT same thing as you reading an aethiests teachings on morality and applying these to your life.

Open your eyes and your mind skip
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So she knows about her church supporting slavery....( I suppose God did too so that's fair) or Fascism? that's fine too....how about paedophile priests and the Pope preferring to cover it up then help God's own children?
As long as she has a coffee morning then all the evil can be forgotten

She does not need God to have a social life.....if that't your argument for religion I think its a wasted one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can go round i ncircles here all day, I could point to the millions of peole the church has helped just as easily as you can point to all it's wrongs

My point is you dismiss relion completley but fail to even acknowledge the good it does in peoples lives, the socail element I describe is onyl one part.

What it so bad abotu a person who feels bad about something, prays and then feels better?

I'll point out here I am not religious, I am not a fan of the catholic chuch for some of the reason you point out, however I really think you need to step back and try see it from another perspective.
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I've seen all the 'good'
I appreciate good people
I'm going after the bad
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Why thank you for being the moral champion who goes after the "bad"

You cleary don't appreciate good people who happen to be religious because you dismiss them outright immediatley.


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Not at all
Does religion make you deaf as well as blind?
Nice people are nice.....regardless of an evil sky fairy...
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I already said I'm not religious

Nice people can actually be nicer wth religion.

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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
What is wrong with a person who feels bad for some reason, prays to their God, and then feels better?

Are you a supporter of someone with mental health issues seeing a therapist?


Are you saying God has a BTEC National in Psychology?
Just so I understand your comparison here....

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FFS mate

What I'm saying is that many religious people pray, many non religious people might go see a therapist.

They can get the same thing from it

So again, what is wrong with a person who feels bad, prays and then feels better?

posted on 15/11/16

comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 2 minutes ago
What is wrong with a person who feels bad for some reason, prays to their God, and then feels better?

Are you a supporter of someone with mental health issues seeing a therapist?


Are you saying God has a BTEC National in Psychology?
Just so I understand your comparison here....

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No, the therapy comes from inside the person praying in the end - if they need to pretend they're talking to an "evil sky fairy" to accomplish that, so what?

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'Nice people can actually be nicer wth religion.'

What a fantastic quote of BS that one is


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Why?

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