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Who are you all voting for then, come on?

I'm predicting a well-hung parliament. As in, it's gonna be even more split than last time.

Hoping for a surprise Labour majority though. Can't have the tories running a muck for another 5 years for fúcks sakes.

If you need any more reasons as to why you should not be voting Tory (which you shouldn't), please visit my twitter account @thedailybmuk
There should be more than enough information there. Yes, this thread is biased

posted 4 hours, 44 minutes ago

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 56 minutes ago
Not perfect, where is?

Still an incredible journey its been on.
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Not perfect? You're a master of the understatement, Hec.

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It still makes a valid point about the economic growth,

It would be interesting to see if its net contribution to the eu has changed significantly, theoretically the stronger other member states get, the less burden is placed on the bigger states

posted 3 hours, 51 minutes ago

comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted about an hour ago
#SackLauraKuenssberg is currently the number one trending hashtag on Twitter. Not many people have taken kindly to her throwing the father of a sick child to the wolves just because of his political affiliations
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Julia Macfarlane
@juliamacfarlane
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Two political journalists today tweeted the exact same thing. One faced an online mob of tens of thousands, many calling for them to be sacked (for sharing a tweet by a man who was trying to identify himself to the public anyway). The other got nothing

Guess which one is a woman

Paul Brand
@PaulBrandITV
· 7h
It’s this guy for those asking 👇 https://twitter.com/omarsalem/status/1174301286692532224?s=21

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago

comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted about an hour ago
#SackLauraKuenssberg is currently the number one trending hashtag on Twitter. Not many people have taken kindly to her throwing the father of a sick child to the wolves just because of his political affiliations
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Julia Macfarlane
@juliamacfarlane
·
2m
Two political journalists today tweeted the exact same thing. One faced an online mob of tens of thousands, many calling for them to be sacked (for sharing a tweet by a man who was trying to identify himself to the public anyway). The other got nothing

Guess which one is a woman

Paul Brand
@PaulBrandITV
· 7h
It’s this guy for those asking 👇 https://twitter.com/omarsalem/status/1174301286692532224?s=21
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This is depressing.

Geezer gets a once-in-lifetime opportunity to have a go at the leader of the country regarding the NHS, the service nearly all of us are proud of, and he's to blame because he happens to be politically active. It's not a crime to oppose the Tories and its not a crime to have a go at the PM.

This chap held Johnson more accountable than our prorogued parliament or media.



BTW all Kuenssberg did was report, she's a journalist, that's her job.

posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago

Leaked Conservative letter shows they are struggling to find a candidate in Hampstead and Kilburn because of the number of ”safe seat vacancies” elsewhere.

https://twitter.com/mattsanders_/status/1174402548993855488?s=21

posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago

comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted less than a minute ago
Leaked Conservative letter shows they are struggling to find a candidate in Hampstead and Kilburn because of the number of ”safe seat vacancies” elsewhere.

https://twitter.com/mattsanders_/status/1174402548993855488?s=21
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Not surprising as Tories wont do well in London.

Labour or Libs will perform well in the capital

posted 2 hours, 53 minutes ago

Tories will be losing most of London, Scotland and s lot of the SW in a GE imo.

posted 2 hours, 53 minutes ago

A lot*

posted 2 hours, 51 minutes ago

comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted less than a minute ago
Tories will be losing most of London, Scotland and s lot of the SW in a GE imo.
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Agreed... They should do well in the midlands and the North

posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago

Anyone else thinks Nicky Morgan resembles Sid the Sloth?

posted 36 minutes ago

comment by The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Entire Civilization and Still Feel Good About Yourself in the Morning (U16342)
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I don't disagree with that either

What I do believe though is population control should be at the front of many changes. Obviously not in the barbaric sense it could go.

Without a rapid decrease the long term suffering will be far worse than almost anything a state could inflict anyway

Unfortunately as a species we're left with two choices:
1. Immediate and drastic action (potentially some pain) in order to give other species as well as our own a chance at long term prosperity
2. Not taking the necessary action and condemning billions of humans to incredible suffering along with the majority of other species currently in existence

Neither is pleasant but I know which I'd choose
*from the evidence I can conprehend, there's little in the way of a cake and eat it scenario, it's too late for that
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I think where we differ is our view on ethics, you are more of a utilitarian - a pragmatist, whereas I'm more Kantian.

What I mean is your view on ethics is based on the outcome of the action and pragmatism; whereas my view is the action in and of itself must be correct.

What I consider an action to be ethical, must be conceived as universally and objectively acceptable. For instance, banning murder is universally accepted under any circumstances.

So I'm deeply sceptical in coercing the population under any circumstances, and believe bodily autonomy is inalienable right. If we go round the road of control, we begin to loose the aspects of our humanity which are were protecting.
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Yes that's fair enough. Although I'm tipped that way by what I see as a lack of alternative in a situation - we won't willingly do the right thing (look at the lack of action on climate change for instance).

Then you have an entire western world living off the suffering and terrible working conditions of others. I'm guilty of being a part of this too.

For me a governments role should be to legislate in certain cases, basically to fight back against the race to the bottom.

At the heart of it all though is the obsession with growth. As you or someone else mentioned growth vs a limited resource (our planet) can't end well yet growth is the only idea really that's stuck.

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