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Who are you all voting for then, come on?

I'm predicting a well-hung parliament. As in, it's gonna be even more split than last time.

Hoping for a surprise Labour majority though. Can't have the tories running a muck for another 5 years for fúcks sakes.

If you need any more reasons as to why you should not be voting Tory (which you shouldn't), please visit my twitter account @thedailybmuk
There should be more than enough information there. Yes, this thread is biased

posted 4 hours, 6 minutes ago

National Identity, Sovereignty & Patrotism.

What an utter load of old $hit.

posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago

comment by Upstairs At Eric's (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
National Identity?

What’s that then? If we’re going with thick spiteful racists, then it’s working,
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Identity, national or otherwise is part of who we are.

See Black history month.

If I said, what is that?????

You really should think more about what you are posting.

National identity is not about race, for starters.

posted 4 hours, 2 minutes ago

comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 17 minutes ago

Insert.

As ever, I admire your posts, and I am largely in agreement on the hard economics of your argument.Again, why I thought it dangerous for us to go into the unknown when even brexit backers could not give a coherent positive economic argument.

At best, brexi t could work in a decade or so, but that wrecks lives now, so not good enough.

Unfortunately,, my heart is brexi t and I know of understand why millions agree, because I also view the world through a lens Not fixated by money alone.

National identity, self - determination, freedom to decide your own future, individual thought, culture, faith et al.

These things matter too!
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None of those things are mutually exclusive with EU membership. Not one.

Outside of trade eu laws make up 2% of our laws. The trade laws are to enable free trade.. a good thing, and whoever we hitch our wagon to post brexit will enact their version of those rules.

We have self determination, individual culture and freedom of thought. Its a fallacy to believe otherwise.

i would guess 80%+ of brexit voters swallowed lies that have been being peddled for 40 years, blaming neoliberal failures on the EU.

When we leave, are infinitely worse off (and this isnt just "Maximising money" we will lose our yearly contribution to the EU every week.... We wont be able to afford a raft of things, we will potentially lose 9% of our GDP.

Thats 9% less for the NHS, police, fire service, benefits claimants, pensions and EVERYTHING else the government spends money on.

its not being "greedy" i view money as largely unimportant, its why i left the finance industry to pursue jobs i enjoy, but PRACTICALLY i ensured i had enough saved to do so comfortably first.

The uk wont just be uncomfortable, it will be suffering. Brexit at this point is pathetic
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Good article from Ian Dunt:

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/10/12/week-in-review-radical-truth-in-the-brexit-lying-game

posted 3 hours, 54 minutes ago

comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 17 minutes ago

Insert.

As ever, I admire your posts, and I am largely in agreement on the hard economics of your argument.Again, why I thought it dangerous for us to go into the unknown when even brexit backers could not give a coherent positive economic argument.

At best, brexi t could work in a decade or so, but that wrecks lives now, so not good enough.

Unfortunately,, my heart is brexi t and I know of understand why millions agree, because I also view the world through a lens Not fixated by money alone.

National identity, self - determination, freedom to decide your own future, individual thought, culture, faith et al.

These things matter too!
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None of those things are mutually exclusive with EU membership. Not one.

Outside of trade eu laws make up 2% of our laws. The trade laws are to enable free trade.. a good thing, and whoever we hitch our wagon to post brexit will enact their version of those rules.

We have self determination, individual culture and freedom of thought. Its a fallacy to believe otherwise.

i would guess 80%+ of brexit voters swallowed lies that have been being peddled for 40 years, blaming neoliberal failures on the EU.

When we leave, are infinitely worse off (and this isnt just "Maximising money" we will lose our yearly contribution to the EU every week.... We wont be able to afford a raft of things, we will potentially lose 9% of our GDP.

Thats 9% less for the NHS, police, fire service, benefits claimants, pensions and EVERYTHING else the government spends money on.

its not being "greedy" i view money as largely unimportant, its why i left the finance industry to pursue jobs i enjoy, but PRACTICALLY i ensured i had enough saved to do so comfortably first.

The uk wont just be uncomfortable, it will be suffering. Brexit at this point is pathetic
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Fair points.

Rapid demographic change spooked voters as did lack of money, and the eu was a scapegoat.......imo, partly true, but as you say, not alone.
Look at how EU elections are going after the millions of migrants came to europe, or from other parts of the globe to the UK an EU.

Rightly or wrongly, some people feel like strangers in their towns and cities, and this is human nature, across the world.

Listen to conerns and do not call ordinary folk here or in elections racist .....acceptingi a few are.

Also, I think brits are stubborn and Iindependent and want to stand alone, trade with whoever we want, have control of our sovereignty, and no matter what you say or Brussels does,,the feeling is we are being ruled by others, taking laws from afar, and this is new to us.

posted 3 hours, 49 minutes ago

Sky News Breaking @SkyNewsBreak
EU officials say European Union leaders have dropped plans for a Brexit summit in November because not enough progress has been made

what the fack has this government been doing the last two years exactly

posted 3 hours, 45 minutes ago

Whatever happens, we have to live here together and get along, so let's hug this out💓😱

Good natter lads, and we agree to disagree on many a thing, but it is better to talk than fight or argue.

There is enough toxic politics in America, Uk ,NI, Scotland and Europe, so tonight, we did not contribute to it👍

Goodnight

posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago

Nick Boles MP @NickBoles
So the government is going to propose a €17 billion extension to the transition but refuse a £2 billion bail out of Universal Credit- good luck with that!

how did we end up being run by absolute monkeys

posted 3 hours, 35 minutes ago

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 8 minutes ago
Whatever happens, we have to live here together and get along, so let's hug this out💓😱

Good natter lads, and we agree to disagree on many a thing, but it is better to talk than fight or argue.

There is enough toxic politics in America, Uk ,NI, Scotland and Europe, so tonight, we did not contribute to it👍

Goodnight


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Dont say we disagree on some things, and lump in absoloutes.

Such as the absoloute lie about the NHS, a key stage 2 child can do the Maths if you laid out the figures in millions for them...

its been comprehensively disproven SO many times its soul destroying to see it used as a bonus of brexit

posted 3 hours, 25 minutes ago

Did BB say we all have to get along?

No, no we do not.

comment by $ka (U3522)

posted 3 hours, 25 minutes ago

comment by Tommy Egan (U11781)
posted 10 minutes ago
Nick Boles MP @NickBoles
So the government is going to propose a €17 billion extension to the transition but refuse a £2 billion bail out of Universal Credit- good luck with that!

how did we end up being run by absolute monkeys
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A refusal by the electorate to vote for alternatives

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