TTIP was widely reported on here, for quite some time.

The BBC was reporting on it for weeks as were a couple of papers I was reading at the time.

"comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 3 seconds ago
"Yes and as I've said - there won't be less people using it because immigration won't reduce."


Nonsense
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So why hasn't non-eu immigration been reduced?

Because the government knows that it is needed."



Are you honestly saying restricting free movement from eu to Britain won't reduce immigration ?

Really?

So the snp don't have a say in Scotland's health service and how it's run?
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Do you know how the Barnett formula works?

Scotland gets given a proportional income as to that spent in England.

If England spends less on the NHS (due to privatisation) then guess what? Scotland gets less to spend too.

So every time England spends less on the NHS, Scotland has less to spend. And if Scotland has less to spend on a fully public NHS then it becomes impossible to resist turning to the private sector to fill the gaps that are created due to funding decreases.

Any Scottish political party would have to turn to the private sector, even if we elected the NHS Party that's only policy was to not privatise the NHS. They would find it pretty much impossible to resist.

So the snp don't have a say in Scotland's health service and how it's run?
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Yes. The Scottish government does. It can choose where to spend the money it has.

However it doesn't have the power to make wholesale changes to the countries tax system in order to raise more money which could be spent on the nhs.

It can't for instance scrap trident and put that money to good use. Or force companies based here to pay their taxes.

comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 3 minutes ago
"The less people using it, the less funding they would put into it, as GDP goes down."

Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not sure they'd suddenly cut funding on back of brexit tbh
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Absolutely. They're actually going to give the NHS an extra £350m as per their Brexit promise.

Aren't they?

comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 1 minute ago
"The less people using it, the less funding they would put into it, as GDP goes down."

Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not sure they'd suddenly cut funding on back of brexit tbh
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They don't need to cut funding on the back of Brexit as it is already underfunded. That is unless our GDP drops and they want to keep it underfunded.

Out population won't decrease anyway.

"Do you know how the Barnett formula works?"


Oh oh is that the formula were big bad tories/westmonster/the English bassas actually give us Scots more per head than their own?

Nasty lot

"comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 3 minutes ago
"The less people using it, the less funding they would put into it, as GDP goes down."

Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not sure they'd suddenly cut funding on back of brexit tbh
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Absolutely. They're actually going to give the NHS an extra £350m as per their Brexit promise.

Aren't they? "


I've told you already politicians only look after themselves. It's not news to me

comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 20 seconds ago
"Do you know how the Barnett formula works?"


Oh oh is that the formula were big bad tories/westmonster/the English bassas actually give us Scots more per head than their own?

Nasty lot
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You could have saved yourself the effort and just said "no"

"They don't need to cut funding on the back of Brexit as it is already underfunded. That is unless our GDP drops and they want to keep it underfunded."

I've not suggested they do. It was you who said that

comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 58 seconds ago
"comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 3 seconds ago
"Yes and as I've said - there won't be less people using it because immigration won't reduce."


Nonsense
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So why hasn't non-eu immigration been reduced?

Because the government knows that it is needed."



Are you honestly saying restricting free movement from eu to Britain won't reduce immigration ?

Really?
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Yes.

now answer the question - why hasn't the government reduced non-eu migration?

"You could have saved yourself the effort and just said "no" "


Just cos it doesn't suit you

comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 4 seconds ago
"They don't need to cut funding on the back of Brexit as it is already underfunded. That is unless our GDP drops and they want to keep it underfunded."

I've not suggested they do. It was you who said that
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I didn't mention Brexit, you did.

I replied to your point.

I don't work for the government Patrick so using know . No doubt you will !

*so no

"comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 4 seconds ago
"They don't need to cut funding on the back of Brexit as it is already underfunded. That is unless our GDP drops and they want to keep it underfunded."

I've not suggested they do. It was you who said that
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I didn't mention Brexit, you did.

I replied to your point."


About funding not brexit

comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 20 seconds ago
"comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 4 seconds ago
"They don't need to cut funding on the back of Brexit as it is already underfunded. That is unless our GDP drops and they want to keep it underfunded."

I've not suggested they do. It was you who said that
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I didn't mention Brexit, you did.

I replied to your point."


About funding not brexit
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This is the post you made which I replied to:

'Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not sure they'd suddenly cut funding on back of brexit tbh'

You mentioned Brexit, not me.

Page 6 tamwolf

You claimed the less funding they put in, not me

comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 35 seconds ago
Page 6 tamwolf

You claimed the less funding they put in, not me
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Which had nothing to do with Brexit.

"comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 23 seconds ago
"The fact that the nhs is underfunded is the issue. Not that we have too many people using it. "


Possibly . Using your theory tho, without being "captain obvious" (again!)....

The less people using it, the less funds would be required thus negating the underfunding to an extent.

Yes?
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The less people using it, the less funding they would put into it, as GDP goes down."




You claimed less funding they'd put in, nothing to do with me and total hearsay on your part

I wish I was an expert on all this stuff same as you guys.

Of course it's to do with brexit

Less people so less money needed after brexit was my point

You replied about they'd just put in less funding

It's all there

comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 3 minutes ago
"You could have saved yourself the effort and just said "no" "


Just cos it doesn't suit you
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Oh jeez....

Yes, Scotland gets more per head than most English regions.

Scotland is however a net contributor to the UK and has been for pretty much every year for the last 30+ years.

So Scotland pays in more than it gets back.

It should also be pointed out that, pre-working out of the Barnett formula, national projects are paid for. These items are almost exclusively in England (I think one of the projects are in Wales or NI). These also include transport works in England (transport work is as you are aware a devolved issue, meaning that Scottish taxes contribute towards English projects but English taxes don't contribute towards Scottish projects).

If you want to learn more about Barnett, feel free to ask.

comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 33 seconds ago
"comment by Ibrox Elite -Saltcoats loyal (U5255)
posted 23 seconds ago
"The fact that the nhs is underfunded is the issue. Not that we have too many people using it. "


Possibly . Using your theory tho, without being "captain obvious" (again!)....

The less people using it, the less funds would be required thus negating the underfunding to an extent.

Yes?
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The less people using it, the less funding they would put into it, as GDP goes down."




You claimed less funding they'd put in, nothing to do with me and total hearsay on your part
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So which part of that mentions Brexit and isn't a reply to you post?

"I wish I was an expert on all this stuff same as you guys."


I'm far from an expert I just don't like all the big bad Tory nonsense when it's not true