Did someone really ask for a definition of "welfare"?

Who cares, they got one anyway.

comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted 50 minutes ago
The Israel-Premier Tech team are to drop Israel from their name from next season.

The team were at the centre of several disruptions during last month's Vuelta a Espana in Spain, as pro-Palestinian protests were staged over Israel's war in Gaza.

The team said the past few months had been "an incredibly difficult period" but "recognised the need for change".

They added: "With steadfast commitment to our riders, staff, and valued partners, the decision has been made to rename and re-brand the team, moving away from its current Israeli identity.

"In sport, progress often requires sacrifice, and this step is essential to securing the future of the team."
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So basically they're doing what the WUM's and bots do on here.

Interesting:

Germany's former Chancellor Angela Merkel has blamed Poland and the Baltic states for Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Merkel, who led the country from 2005 to 2021, made the explosive claim in an interview with Hungarian outlet Partizan . She said she blamed Poland and the Baltic states for the severance of diplomatic ties between Russia and the EU, which she said led to the invasion just a few months later.

comment by Boycott THFC (U23088)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
So I make 12 grounds for indefinite leave to remain in the UK, from the Gov.uk website:

1. you work in the UK. You may be able to apply if you have a work visa. You must usually have lived and worked in the UK for 5 years. If you have a tier 1 visa, it can be 2 or 3 years. If you have an Innovator Founder or Global Talent visa, it can be 3 years. You may also need to meet the salary or financial requirements - this depends on your visa.

2. you have family in the UK. You may be able to apply if you have a partner, parent or child or other relative settled in the UK - either as a British citizen or a person with indefinite leave to remain.

3. you have family in the UK & your partner has died

4. you have family in the UK & your relationship ended because of domestic violence

5. you’ve lived in the UK for 10 years or more

6. If you’re a Commonwealth citizen. You can apply if you’ve been living in the UK for 5 years on a UK Ancestry visa

7. Some Commonwealth citizens have ‘right of abode’ in the UK. This means you can live or work in the UK without immigration restrictions.

8. You may be eligible for citizenship instead, for example by applying under the Windrush scheme.

9. a refugee or have humanitarian protection or Discretionary Leave

10. returning to the UK having previously had indefinite leave to remain

11. served in the armed forces

12. permission to stay in the UK as a stateless person


This seems to be a lot of people can become eligible for welfare payments to me (assuming that anybody with indefinite leave to remain can indeed currently obtain welfare payments).

I'd think that there is room for consultation as to whether it may be appropriate to reduce some of these.
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See what you’ve done are the CURRENT conditions to be granted indefinite leave to remain. What you haven’t included is what conditions were in place covering the period of all ILR people. And, just for you, none of the above applies to be wife when she was granted ILR.

Tories misspell ‘Britain’ in conference speech

https://x.com/politicsjoe_uk/status/1975227643747520693?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

So after the so-called arms embargo to Israel, June was the highest recorded monetary value of arms sales from the UK ever - including bombs, grenades, torpedoes, missiles and ammunition. September was the 2nd highest.

The cumulative total in 2025 is double anything over the previous 3 years.

This Labour government.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-uk-arms-received-by-israel-reach-record-high-value-in-2025

comment by Boycott THFC (U23088)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boycott THFC (U23088)
posted 11 minutes ago
To try to summarise the grounds (actually 14 mentioned):

1. have lived and worked in the UK for 2-5 years (depending on visa type). May also need to meet the salary or financial requirements.
2. have a partner, parent or child or other relative settled in the UK.
3. have family in the UK & your partner has died
4. have family in the UK & your relationship ended because of domestic violence
5. you’ve lived in the UK for 10 years or more
6. you’re a Commonwealth citizen and you’ve been living in the UK for 5 years on a UK Ancestry visa
7. Some Commonwealth citizens have ‘right of abode’ in the UK.
8. You may be eligible for citizenship instead, for example by applying under the Windrush scheme.
9. a refugee
10. humanitarian protection
11. Discretionary Leave (exceptional and compassionate circumstances)
12. returning to the UK having previously had indefinite leave to remain
13. served in the armed forces
14. a stateless person

To me it's perfectly reasonable to discuss these in terms of being entitled to welfare/benefit payments.

I don't necessarily know the answer on specific ones, but there's discussion to be had between policy makers, treasury etc.

The response by others on this was:

"the kind of daft bullshiiiit which sees your best and brightest foreign students, graduates and young professionals choose Paris, Oslo, Sydney or Beijing instead of London or Manchester."

"Economically stupid Trumpian nonsense."

"a brainlessly stupid, and fundamentally un-British, policy"

"a moronic and callous policy that Reform might try and implement."

"populist nonsense...pointless economic self-harm."

To me though, a suggestion to instigate a review of the above is perfectly prudent and unsurprising.
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“A review of the above” isn’t what the Tories are pledging though, is it? That’s not what people were responding to.
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People on here have said, as I understand it, that currently anybody with indefinite right to remain in the UK is entitled to "welfare" etc, the same as a UK citizen.
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Once again, a “suggestion to instigate a review of” the various and specific criteria which may qualify applicants for settled status IS NOT what the Tories are pledging.

They’re pledging to remove entitlement to benefits from all of those listed above.

You’re conflating two completely separate issues:

- A potential review of the qualifying factors for settled status
- The Tories threatening to remove access to benefits for ALL non-citizens with settled status.

Facking nobody would argue against a review of the criteria of settled status, surely. Even if they agreed with all of those criteria. A review is a review. Are the criteria reasonable and fair and proportionate with both those of other developed nations and considering a sensible balance between push-pull factors given the labour market, industrial strategy and the nation’s other needs? Fine, absolutely fine; let’s ask the question.

The disbelief people were displaying has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with those specific criteria, however.

comment by Boycott THFC (U23088)
posted 57 minutes ago
Interesting:

Germany's former Chancellor Angela Merkel has blamed Poland and the Baltic states for Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Merkel, who led the country from 2005 to 2021, made the explosive claim in an interview with Hungarian outlet Partizan . She said she blamed Poland and the Baltic states for the severance of diplomatic ties between Russia and the EU, which she said led to the invasion just a few months later.
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No; no she didn’t.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
Welfare can mean an individual's or animal's state of well-being, happiness, and prosperity, or it can refer to organized systems, like the welfare state, that provide financial aid, necessities, and services to support those in need.
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Police do welfare checks all the time.
Pretty sure they're not checking bank accounts or benefits.

comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Boycott THFC (U23088)
posted 57 minutes ago
Interesting:

Germany's former Chancellor Angela Merkel has blamed Poland and the Baltic states for Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Merkel, who led the country from 2005 to 2021, made the explosive claim in an interview with Hungarian outlet Partizan . She said she blamed Poland and the Baltic states for the severance of diplomatic ties between Russia and the EU, which she said led to the invasion just a few months later.
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No; no she didn’t.
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Is this Fake News?
Boycott where'd you get this from?

Badenuff: The Conservatives have a credible plan to deport 150,000 people
Interviewer: In your plan, where would these 150,000 people, every year, go?
Badenuff: ... not here...
Interviewer: Do you really want to join Russia and Belarus in quitting EHCR, a decades old European agreement?
Badenuff: America is not in that agreement, Australia and Canada is not in that agreement
Interviewer: It's a European agreement.

Why do people still give her the time of day?!

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Boycott THFC (U23088)
posted 57 minutes ago
Interesting:

Germany's former Chancellor Angela Merkel has blamed Poland and the Baltic states for Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Merkel, who led the country from 2005 to 2021, made the explosive claim in an interview with Hungarian outlet Partizan . She said she blamed Poland and the Baltic states for the severance of diplomatic ties between Russia and the EU, which she said led to the invasion just a few months later.
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No; no she didn’t.
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Is this Fake News?
Boycott where'd you get this from?
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This link exolains it pretty well:

https://www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-blast-poland-baltics-share-blame-russia-invasion-ukraine/

She basically said that she and Macron had proposed that the EU sit down to talks with Putin when Russia was amassing troops near the Ukrainian border, but that the Baltic states and Poland refused.

That's been two
Isted into "Merkel blames Poland and the Baltics for the war."

They didn't accuse her of accusing them of being the problem either they're essentially saying "Merkel thought you could get round the table with Putin and sort things out but what she didn't understand is with Putin it's either resist or relent"

comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Boycott THFC (U23088)
posted 57 minutes ago
Interesting:

Germany's former Chancellor Angela Merkel has blamed Poland and the Baltic states for Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Merkel, who led the country from 2005 to 2021, made the explosive claim in an interview with Hungarian outlet Partizan . She said she blamed Poland and the Baltic states for the severance of diplomatic ties between Russia and the EU, which she said led to the invasion just a few months later.
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No; no she didn’t.
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This does not surprise me

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
They didn't accuse her of accusing them of being the problem either they're essentially saying "Merkel thought you could get round the table with Putin and sort things out but what she didn't understand is with Putin it's either resist or relent"
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Nuance doesn’t t make good clickbait, though.

Most important question of the day; Is BoycottTHFC the new Factchecker?

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Boycott THFC (U23088)
posted 57 minutes ago
Interesting:

Germany's former Chancellor Angela Merkel has blamed Poland and the Baltic states for Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Merkel, who led the country from 2005 to 2021, made the explosive claim in an interview with Hungarian outlet Partizan . She said she blamed Poland and the Baltic states for the severance of diplomatic ties between Russia and the EU, which she said led to the invasion just a few months later.
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No; no she didn’t.
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Is this Fake News?
Boycott where'd you get this from?
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This link exolains it pretty well:

https://www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-blast-poland-baltics-share-blame-russia-invasion-ukraine/

She basically said that she and Macron had proposed that the EU sit down to talks with Putin when Russia was amassing troops near the Ukrainian border, but that the Baltic states and Poland refused.

That's been two
Isted into "Merkel blames Poland and the Baltics for the war."
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She's not quite blaming them, but she does come off as a bitter old bat.
Wasn't it her that got the EU addicted to Vlad's gas?

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
Most important question of the day; Is BoycottTHFC the new Factchecker?
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Nah he's just fact.

Right so anyway who’s getting welfare?

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 seconds ago
Right so anyway who’s getting welfare?
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Israel and MAGA states are the ultimate welfare queens

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Boycott THFC (U23088)
posted 57 minutes ago
Interesting:

Germany's former Chancellor Angela Merkel has blamed Poland and the Baltic states for Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Merkel, who led the country from 2005 to 2021, made the explosive claim in an interview with Hungarian outlet Partizan . She said she blamed Poland and the Baltic states for the severance of diplomatic ties between Russia and the EU, which she said led to the invasion just a few months later.
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No; no she didn’t.
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Is this Fake News?
Boycott where'd you get this from?
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This link exolains it pretty well:

https://www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-blast-poland-baltics-share-blame-russia-invasion-ukraine/

She basically said that she and Macron had proposed that the EU sit down to talks with Putin when Russia was amassing troops near the Ukrainian border, but that the Baltic states and Poland refused.

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That's interesting information.

So whether Merkel expressly states it or not, it was down to those states, if what she's saying is correct, which it's probably likely to be.

lolwut

I think the only ones 2 blame PHWOAR! Russias invadesion of Ukraine is…..Russia