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comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 3 days ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago

Given that without religion, objective moral values don't exist then I suppose there's a good argument for keeping them.
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How could you possibly know that, i dont believe in anything religios that doesnt mean i have no morals, i treat people how i want to be treated, if you are only being moral because of a relgion and think you'll be rewarded you arent really that much of a good person
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I didn't say people who aren't religious can't behave morally.

I'm saying that without God, objective moral values don't exist.

comment by TheSpecialWUM (U9028)
posted 2 days, 23 hours ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 15 minutes ago

Given that without religion, objective moral values don't exist then I suppose there's a good argument for keeping them.
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Ah. The obvious troll is obviously trolling. Surprised you got a bite with this old chestnut.
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eh?

comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 6 hours, 44 minutes ago
Did either of you go to a religious associated school?
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Nope.

Although in the non-religiously affiliated primary school I was at we had religious assemblies in the morning.

Nothing but a very narrow RE class for a few years in high school (major monotheistic religions only).

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 7 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 3 days ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago

Given that without religion, objective moral values don't exist then I suppose there's a good argument for keeping them.
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How could you possibly know that, i dont believe in anything religios that doesnt mean i have no morals, i treat people how i want to be treated, if you are only being moral because of a relgion and think you'll be rewarded you arent really that much of a good person
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I didn't say people who aren't religious can't behave morally.

I'm saying that without God, objective moral values don't exist.
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You're either a troll, or a complete simpleton.

comment by TheSpecialWUM (U9028)
posted 10 hours ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 7 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 3 days ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago

Given that without religion, objective moral values don't exist then I suppose there's a good argument for keeping them.
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How could you possibly know that, i dont believe in anything religios that doesnt mean i have no morals, i treat people how i want to be treated, if you are only being moral because of a relgion and think you'll be rewarded you arent really that much of a good person
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I didn't say people who aren't religious can't behave morally.

I'm saying that without God, objective moral values don't exist.
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You're either a troll, or a complete simpleton.
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I love it when people try and rebuff a comment without any reasoning.

The moral argument has existed for centuries. In fact, the most ardent and intellectual atheists have almost conceded this point.

I can only assume you don't understand it.

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 21 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 3 days ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago

Given that without religion, objective moral values don't exist then I suppose there's a good argument for keeping them.
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How could you possibly know that, i dont believe in anything religios that doesnt mean i have no morals, i treat people how i want to be treated, if you are only being moral because of a relgion and think you'll be rewarded you arent really that much of a good person
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I didn't say people who aren't religious can't behave morally.

I'm saying that without God, objective moral values don't exist.
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...or without one no-existent thing another non-existent thing can't exist. Deep.

Did anyone actually learn anything in RE lessons anyway?

comment by Tu Meke Nketiah (U3732)
posted 49 minutes ago
Did anyone actually learn anything in RE lessons anyway?
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Yes. Quite a few people did, it's in the comments on the thread.

Rosso

You made a very good point in your recent post about children learning about Parliament etc.

This is the sort of stuff that NEEDS to be taught in schools, yet it isn’t and I personally believe that they deliberately don’t teach this because they don’t want the average person to understand how it works (not that a lot of Parliament/ politics works anyway).

If there’s one thing I would love children to learn - and wish I’d learnt as a child myself - is critical thinking. I don’t just mean critical thinking applied to a particular subject being taught, like how to find a solution to some mathematical equation, I mean applying it to real world issues.

Questioning why things are the way they are. Not just learning about wars but why did they start, who really benefited from having a war? Why do train fares continually rise and yet there is little real visible improvement or investment yet the increased fares are supposed to be put towards all this? Why do politicians/ governments continually break promises? Not just accepting what you’re told but thinking whether or not it makes actual sense. Is there a hidden agenda going on somewhere, is there something that’s not being revealed, why don’t things change/ improve even though we’re told that they should? Nothing wrong with questioning stuff. This also encourages learning but it’s not taught and it really should be.

comment by 1 Father - 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 17 minutes ago
Rosso

You made a very good point in your recent post about children learning about Parliament etc.

This is the sort of stuff that NEEDS to be taught in schools, yet it isn’t and I personally believe that they deliberately don’t teach this because they don’t want the average person to understand how it works (not that a lot of Parliament/ politics works anyway).

If there’s one thing I would love children to learn - and wish I’d learnt as a child myself - is critical thinking. I don’t just mean critical thinking applied to a particular subject being taught, like how to find a solution to some mathematical equation, I mean applying it to real world issues.

Questioning why things are the way they are. Not just learning about wars but why did they start, who really benefited from having a war? Why do train fares continually rise and yet there is little real visible improvement or investment yet the increased fares are supposed to be put towards all this? Why do politicians/ governments continually break promises? Not just accepting what you’re told but thinking whether or not it makes actual sense. Is there a hidden agenda going on somewhere, is there something that’s not being revealed, why don’t things change/ improve even though we’re told that they should? Nothing wrong with questioning stuff. This also encourages learning but it’s not taught and it really should be.
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I completely agree with this post. But I have to ask, don’t you believe in god quite strictly? In that have you questioned why none of (religion) it makes any logical sense? (Outside of social control that is)?