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posted on 28/11/13

One question I have for both atheists and religious people is why do you actually care so much what other people think?

Everybody should be entitled to believe what they want to believe whether they are wrong or not.

posted on 28/11/13

comment by TheKaisersTrainers Love FSG (U5676)
posted 15 seconds ago
By not teaching about religion you're deliberately not teaching about culture and ensuring kids will be ignorant and unprepared for the world around them. Which is a pretty stupid thing to do.

Pretending billions of people don't practise religion and completely denying their existence (when religions factually exist, no one can deny that) is a petty and vindictive "I'm right and you're wrong" tantrum by hardliner athiests.

Next time I see a woman in a Burka or a man with a big hat and wicked long sideburns an my kid asks me why they're dressed like that I'll just say "you didn't see anything, they don't exist. Please stare straight ahead and stop asking questions with religious answers. Because you're not supposed to know anything about that, it's

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So we should teach every religion there is with all their bullox and build in resentments towards others eh? Why not just teach them to tolerance. what is the point in trying to explain every action with loads of fictional stories.

posted on 28/11/13

comment by Ilori - Skrtel To Zenit. (U18764)

posted 1 minute ago

I'll give you a scenario..
In a subway/underground station. A baby has just fallen unto the rails 50 metres away is train coming towards the baby. Now wouldn't it be foolish for someone to jump in to try to rescue the baby when he's foolishly risking his own life?

The answer yes


You cant apply that to religion and claim that as an excuse to believe in something with no proof
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You can apply it to faith. Faith and religion go together. Faith is taking a 'brave' step when you don't really know what's ahead.

Some may call it foolish
Some may call it stupidity

posted on 28/11/13

"There's a massive difference between a culture and a faith"

when billions of people practise a faith, set their holidays around it, celebrate marriage and raise their children by it, set their views of acceptable / unacceptable according to it, then no, there isn't a big difference at all.

Not all culture is faith based, but it plays a big part - by dismissing that you're sticking your head in the sand. I'm not saying you have to like it, just recognise its existence.

posted on 28/11/13

Id say its braver to not accept any ideas as true. Study the world and see how it works. I find the idea of a set of rules that determine HOW the universe works far more worth pursuing than a set of rules specific to us.
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bible study my friend would show you that there is nothing happening now that has not happened in the past.
And my interpretation of Christianity is using those stories (fictional/no fictional your choice) from the past to teach us to be better.

posted on 28/11/13

So we should teach every religion there is with all their bullox and build in resentments towards others eh? Why not just teach them to tolerance. what is the point in trying to explain every action with loads of fictional stories.
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How have you come to this conclusion from TKT's post?

TKT is spot on there.

posted on 28/11/13

Hafi is as hilarious as syphilis.

"One question I have for both atheists and religious people is why do you actually care so much what other people think?"

Spot on. It's the same as politics, the far left and the far right don't tend to differ too much in terms of sticking steadfastly to their beliefs and believing anyone else is wrong. Bizarrely, they tend to use the term "ignorant" more than anyone else as well...

posted on 28/11/13

Football bloody hell

I'll give you a few reasons why I believe in God

1) The second law of thermodynamics allows
that disorder arise from order but and not the
reverse. According to that law it is impossible for
universe to arise without deliberate organization.

2) I am Doctor and the bodily processes and functions
cannot be even remotely accounted for by chance.
In fact it is a very very stupid thing to imagine,

3) I have seen things happen against the laws of physics. Things physics would call impossible.
But they happened because a certain name of Jesus
was called upon.

4) I have learned a lot about the reasons things
happen the way they do, just because I accepted
my ignorance and said a silent prayer to whoever
it is. I asked whoever it is to make me understand.
Now I understand a lot, and I am still learning more.
And I know this understanding isn't due to me at all.



And there are more.

posted on 28/11/13

So we should teach every religion there is with all their bullox and build in resentments towards others eh? Why not just teach them to tolerance.
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You could learn a thing from your advice by first accepting/tolerating their faith and calling their belief bullox

posted on 28/11/13

Religion is a coping mechanism in my eyes, people are scared of there being nothing when they die

posted on 28/11/13

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 minute ago
So we should teach every religion there is with all their bullox and build in resentments towards others eh? Why not just teach them to tolerance. what is the point in trying to explain every action with loads of fictional stories.
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How have you come to this conclusion from TKT's post?

TKT is spot on there.
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Maybe because he said we should study religion to understand how those people act There are hundreds of religions so where does it end, should we study them all. Its far more productive just to tolerate than find cultural background to every action

comment by TUX (U5315)

posted on 28/11/13

bible study my friend would show you that there is nothing happening now that has not happened in the past.
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That's history in general. The more things change the more they stay the same

posted on 28/11/13

Which bible?

posted on 28/11/13

comment by Ilori - Skrtel To Zenit. (U18764)

posted 1 minute ago

Religion is a coping mechanism in my eyes, people are scared of there being nothing when they die
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What you've said above is clearly not the case.
I always people to see/imaging things in their opponents eyes before labelling it/them stupid and other things.

posted on 28/11/13

darren and meltonblue

I agree with you about the believe from both parties that they know more than the other

The minute you realize as people what we don't know, the minute we also understand that which we know is miniscule in comparison. And that is when we stop trying to impose ourselves.

posted on 28/11/13

In your opinion.

posted on 28/11/13

I'm sure TKT was talking about the dominant religions.

Educating people on them makes 'tolerance' an easier objective.

posted on 28/11/13

comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
So we should teach every religion there is with all their bullox and build in resentments towards others eh? Why not just teach them to tolerance.
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You could learn a thing from your advice by first accepting/tolerating their faith and calling their belief bullox
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Im not calling their faith bullox. If they believe its a sin to drink alcohol etc , I respect it.

Bullox are the fairy tales in holy books

posted on 28/11/13

I could say atheism is a coping mechanism.

People are scared of having to regulate their
lives and their passions.
And they are also scared of turning the other
Cheek.

That said, Jesus predicted that the majority of
those who will be calling him "Lord lord" will be
hypocrites, bringing shame on him, God and his
teachings.

Those are the religionists who have done all the
evil.

posted on 28/11/13

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 20 seconds ago
I'm sure TKT was talking about the dominant religions.

Educating people on them makes 'tolerance' an easier objective.
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thats racist towards people who believe in minor religions

posted on 28/11/13

Maybe because he said we should study religion to understand how those people act There are hundreds of religions so where does it end, should we study them all. Its far more productive just to tolerate than find cultural background to every action
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When government says we should study foreign language, do we have to study every single language on earth? Just a point..

I personally think studying religion at school should be optional (unless there's a good reason to make it compulsory, e.g. in faith schls).

posted on 28/11/13

If you are silly, yes.

posted on 28/11/13

First of all it's not racist.

Second of all there's only so much people can be educated on and the Abrahamic religions and Hinduism are more relevant to our society.

posted on 28/11/13

comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Maybe because he said we should study religion to understand how those people act There are hundreds of religions so where does it end, should we study them all. Its far more productive just to tolerate than find cultural background to every action
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When government says we should study foreign language, do we have to study every single language on earth? Just a point..

I personally think studying religion at school should be optional (unless there's a good reason to make it compulsory, e.g. in faith schls).
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studying languages is useful, studying religion is useless

posted on 28/11/13

Im not calling their faith bullox. If they believe its a sin to drink alcohol etc , I respect it.

Bullox are the fairy tales in holy books
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Until you accept/tolerate them and that their fairy tales stories (which they may believe), I don't think you should be advising them on tolerance

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