comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 22 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball. The second question is whether Jota had lost control of the ball. This is difficult to answer, even with VAR. Therefore the original decision should have stood. No clear and obvious error.
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Of course Jota had lost control of the ball. He miskicked it out of play ffs.
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 13 minutes ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Absolute rubbish
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 13 minutes ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Nice to see that there are some LFC fans that can be impartial. Jota was looking for a penalty as soon as he got through. Nearly went down when Ward came across, then realised that there wasn't enough contact, so went for the keeper instead.
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Well this is just wrong. Just because it isn't a penalty doesn't make it a dive. Contact happens all the time where it is neither a foul nor a dive.
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Jota stepping into the keeper and looking for the penalty made it a dive.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Well this is just wrong. Just because it isn't a penalty doesn't make it a dive. Contact happens all the time where it is neither a foul nor a dive.
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Jota stepping into the keeper and looking for the penalty made it a dive.
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Typical of someone who has never physically played the game at any level
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Well this is just wrong. Just because it isn't a penalty doesn't make it a dive. Contact happens all the time where it is neither a foul nor a dive.
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Jota stepping into the keeper and looking for the penalty made it a dive.
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Typical of someone who has never physically played the game at any level
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I played the game for many years mate, believe me. I've got the ACL scars to prove it.
But you don't need to have played the game to recognise a dive. Jota was looking for the penalty straight away. He started to drag his right foot as Ward came across, but there wasn't enough contact to go down, so he stepped into the keeper to initiate contact. If he hadn't been looking for the penalty he'd have had a better chance of getting a decent shot on target, instead of miskicking it out of play.
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 36 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball.
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I don't think a keeper can clatter into someone when Jota changes his direction and initiates the contact with the keeper. Just to be clear, this, as you say was due to him missing his kick when trying to lift it over the keeper and then trying to readjust his body....but it is that readjustment that causes the contact.
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I don't think you can initiate contact with somebody flying at you full speed, no matter what Jota did he was getting clattered. You can clearly see Jota's eyes on the ball the whole time and when the ball went left, Jota went left, only to be clattered.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 22 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball. The second question is whether Jota had lost control of the ball. This is difficult to answer, even with VAR. Therefore the original decision should have stood. No clear and obvious error.
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Of course Jota had lost control of the ball. He miskicked it out of play ffs.
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It wasn't out of play when he attempted to change direction to go after it. He probably wouldn't have got there, true but you can't be sure. Either way the original decision should have stood, due to not being sure, which is the whole point of clear and obvious. You see them using this phase incorrectly all the time, then they finally have a chance to use it perfectly and they go and change the original decision.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Well this is just wrong. Just because it isn't a penalty doesn't make it a dive. Contact happens all the time where it is neither a foul nor a dive.
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Jota stepping into the keeper and looking for the penalty made it a dive.
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Typical of someone who has never physically played the game at any level
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I played the game for many years mate, believe me. I've got the ACL scars to prove it.
But you don't need to have played the game to recognise a dive. Jota was looking for the penalty straight away. He started to drag his right foot as Ward came across, but there wasn't enough contact to go down, so he stepped into the keeper to initiate contact. If he hadn't been looking for the penalty he'd have had a better chance of getting a decent shot on target, instead of miskicking it out of play.
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This is absolute nonsense. At least the OP is talking nonsense on purpose.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 36 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball.
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I don't think a keeper can clatter into someone when Jota changes his direction and initiates the contact with the keeper. Just to be clear, this, as you say was due to him missing his kick when trying to lift it over the keeper and then trying to readjust his body....but it is that readjustment that causes the contact.
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I don't think you can initiate contact with somebody flying at you full speed, no matter what Jota did he was getting clattered. You can clearly see Jota's eyes on the ball the whole time and when the ball went left, Jota went left, only to be clattered.
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Jota doesn't go left, his puts his right leg to the right and into the keeper. Please tell me you are wumming.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 36 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball.
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I don't think a keeper can clatter into someone when Jota changes his direction and initiates the contact with the keeper. Just to be clear, this, as you say was due to him missing his kick when trying to lift it over the keeper and then trying to readjust his body....but it is that readjustment that causes the contact.
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I don't think you can initiate contact with somebody flying at you full speed, no matter what Jota did he was getting clattered. You can clearly see Jota's eyes on the ball the whole time and when the ball went left, Jota went left, only to be clattered.
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Jota doesn't go left, his puts his right leg to the right and into the keeper. Please tell me you are wumming.
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https://youtu.be/zF0klKLhbVY
Eyes clearly on the ball the whole time, doesn't even know where the keeper is, then shifts his body to go left when he miskicks it. This is obvious in the video.
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comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 22 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball. The second question is whether Jota had lost control of the ball. This is difficult to answer, even with VAR. Therefore the original decision should have stood. No clear and obvious error.
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Of course Jota had lost control of the ball. He miskicked it out of play ffs.
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It wasn't out of play when he attempted to change direction to go after it. He probably wouldn't have got there, true but you can't be sure. Either way the original decision should have stood, due to not being sure, which is the whole point of clear and obvious. You see them using this phase incorrectly all the time, then they finally have a chance to use it perfectly and they go and change the original decision.
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He doesn't go after the ball. He puts his leg to the right and into the keeper. I think you need to watch it again.
Although I still agree it should not have been overturned as it is simply down to opinion whether you believe he wasn't getting to the ball, had he not been fouled.
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Well this is just wrong. Just because it isn't a penalty doesn't make it a dive. Contact happens all the time where it is neither a foul nor a dive.
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Jota stepping into the keeper and looking for the penalty made it a dive.
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Typical of someone who has never physically played the game at any level
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What, deliberately moving to his right in order - there’s no other explanation for it - to deliberately collide with the goalie?
So that’s football is it? Well I never …
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 22 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball. The second question is whether Jota had lost control of the ball. This is difficult to answer, even with VAR. Therefore the original decision should have stood. No clear and obvious error.
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Of course Jota had lost control of the ball. He miskicked it out of play ffs.
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It wasn't out of play when he attempted to change direction to go after it. He probably wouldn't have got there, true but you can't be sure. Either way the original decision should have stood, due to not being sure, which is the whole point of clear and obvious. You see them using this phase incorrectly all the time, then they finally have a chance to use it perfectly and they go and change the original decision.
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He doesn't go after the ball. He puts his leg to the right and into the keeper. I think you need to watch it again.
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I literally just showed the video which shows this is not the case. If you're going to WUM, at least try to find something to WUM about, not just denying what is actually shown on video
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 36 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball.
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I don't think a keeper can clatter into someone when Jota changes his direction and initiates the contact with the keeper. Just to be clear, this, as you say was due to him missing his kick when trying to lift it over the keeper and then trying to readjust his body....but it is that readjustment that causes the contact.
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I don't think you can initiate contact with somebody flying at you full speed, no matter what Jota did he was getting clattered. You can clearly see Jota's eyes on the ball the whole time and when the ball went left, Jota went left, only to be clattered.
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Jota doesn't go left, his puts his right leg to the right and into the keeper. Please tell me you are wumming.
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https://youtu.be/zF0klKLhbVY
Eyes clearly on the ball the whole time, doesn't even know where the keeper is, then shifts his body to go left when he miskicks it. This is obvious in the video.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/60104943
22 seconds - Starts to drag his right foot, realises the contact wasn't enough so can't go down.
25 seconds - Steps his right foot across to the keeper and initiates contact.
32 seconds - Clearly looks at the keeper, despite you stating that he never takes his eye off the ball.
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Well this is just wrong. Just because it isn't a penalty doesn't make it a dive. Contact happens all the time where it is neither a foul nor a dive.
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Jota stepping into the keeper and looking for the penalty made it a dive.
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Typical of someone who has never physically played the game at any level
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What, deliberately moving to his right in order - there’s no other explanation for it - to deliberately collide with the goalie?
So that’s football is it? Well I never …
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Of course he deliberately moved to the right, he tried to dink the keeper whilst moving left, using his right foot and had to come down somehow. Try doing that move and not moving right. It will look hilarious.
Please also send me the video.
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 36 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball.
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I don't think a keeper can clatter into someone when Jota changes his direction and initiates the contact with the keeper. Just to be clear, this, as you say was due to him missing his kick when trying to lift it over the keeper and then trying to readjust his body....but it is that readjustment that causes the contact.
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I don't think you can initiate contact with somebody flying at you full speed, no matter what Jota did he was getting clattered. You can clearly see Jota's eyes on the ball the whole time and when the ball went left, Jota went left, only to be clattered.
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Jota doesn't go left, his puts his right leg to the right and into the keeper. Please tell me you are wumming.
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This is the most classic example of club bias clouding an opinion.
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Have a watch of the video I just posted. I can only assume you haven't seen the same angles that I have.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 36 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball.
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I don't think a keeper can clatter into someone when Jota changes his direction and initiates the contact with the keeper. Just to be clear, this, as you say was due to him missing his kick when trying to lift it over the keeper and then trying to readjust his body....but it is that readjustment that causes the contact.
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I don't think you can initiate contact with somebody flying at you full speed, no matter what Jota did he was getting clattered. You can clearly see Jota's eyes on the ball the whole time and when the ball went left, Jota went left, only to be clattered.
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Jota doesn't go left, his puts his right leg to the right and into the keeper. Please tell me you are wumming.
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https://youtu.be/zF0klKLhbVY
Eyes clearly on the ball the whole time, doesn't even know where the keeper is, then shifts his body to go left when he miskicks it. This is obvious in the video.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/60104943
22 seconds - Starts to drag his right foot, realises the contact wasn't enough so can't go down.
25 seconds - Steps his right foot across to the keeper and initiates contact.
32 seconds - Clearly looks at the keeper, despite you stating that he never takes his eye off the ball.
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I'm out.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 22 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball. The second question is whether Jota had lost control of the ball. This is difficult to answer, even with VAR. Therefore the original decision should have stood. No clear and obvious error.
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Of course Jota had lost control of the ball. He miskicked it out of play ffs.
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It wasn't out of play when he attempted to change direction to go after it. He probably wouldn't have got there, true but you can't be sure. Either way the original decision should have stood, due to not being sure, which is the whole point of clear and obvious. You see them using this phase incorrectly all the time, then they finally have a chance to use it perfectly and they go and change the original decision.
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He doesn't go after the ball. He puts his leg to the right and into the keeper. I think you need to watch it again.
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I literally just showed the video which shows this is not the case. If you're going to WUM, at least try to find something to WUM about, not just denying what is actually shown on video
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No. You showed a video that shows Jota put his right left to his right and into the keeper. The BBC link I have posted shows it from behind and even clearer. It also shows that Jota look at the keeper and knew exactly where he was. You must be wumming.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Well this is just wrong. Just because it isn't a penalty doesn't make it a dive. Contact happens all the time where it is neither a foul nor a dive.
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Jota stepping into the keeper and looking for the penalty made it a dive.
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Typical of someone who has never physically played the game at any level
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What, deliberately moving to his right in order - there’s no other explanation for it - to deliberately collide with the goalie?
So that’s football is it? Well I never …
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Of course he deliberately moved to the right, he tried to dink the keeper whilst moving left, using his right foot and had to come down somehow. Try doing that move and not moving right. It will look hilarious.
Please also send me the video.
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His right foot lands and he takes another step before stepping to the right. Try again.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 36 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball.
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I don't think a keeper can clatter into someone when Jota changes his direction and initiates the contact with the keeper. Just to be clear, this, as you say was due to him missing his kick when trying to lift it over the keeper and then trying to readjust his body....but it is that readjustment that causes the contact.
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I don't think you can initiate contact with somebody flying at you full speed, no matter what Jota did he was getting clattered. You can clearly see Jota's eyes on the ball the whole time and when the ball went left, Jota went left, only to be clattered.
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Jota doesn't go left, his puts his right leg to the right and into the keeper. Please tell me you are wumming.
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https://youtu.be/zF0klKLhbVY
Eyes clearly on the ball the whole time, doesn't even know where the keeper is, then shifts his body to go left when he miskicks it. This is obvious in the video.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/60104943
22 seconds - Starts to drag his right foot, realises the contact wasn't enough so can't go down.
25 seconds - Steps his right foot across to the keeper and initiates contact.
32 seconds - Clearly looks at the keeper, despite you stating that he never takes his eye off the ball.
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I'm out.
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Apology accepted.
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posted on 24/1/22
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 22 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball. The second question is whether Jota had lost control of the ball. This is difficult to answer, even with VAR. Therefore the original decision should have stood. No clear and obvious error.
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Of course Jota had lost control of the ball. He miskicked it out of play ffs.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 13 minutes ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Absolute rubbish
posted on 24/1/22
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 13 minutes ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Nice to see that there are some LFC fans that can be impartial. Jota was looking for a penalty as soon as he got through. Nearly went down when Ward came across, then realised that there wasn't enough contact, so went for the keeper instead.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Well this is just wrong. Just because it isn't a penalty doesn't make it a dive. Contact happens all the time where it is neither a foul nor a dive.
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Jota stepping into the keeper and looking for the penalty made it a dive.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Well this is just wrong. Just because it isn't a penalty doesn't make it a dive. Contact happens all the time where it is neither a foul nor a dive.
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Jota stepping into the keeper and looking for the penalty made it a dive.
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Typical of someone who has never physically played the game at any level
posted on 24/1/22
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Well this is just wrong. Just because it isn't a penalty doesn't make it a dive. Contact happens all the time where it is neither a foul nor a dive.
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Jota stepping into the keeper and looking for the penalty made it a dive.
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Typical of someone who has never physically played the game at any level
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I played the game for many years mate, believe me. I've got the ACL scars to prove it.
But you don't need to have played the game to recognise a dive. Jota was looking for the penalty straight away. He started to drag his right foot as Ward came across, but there wasn't enough contact to go down, so he stepped into the keeper to initiate contact. If he hadn't been looking for the penalty he'd have had a better chance of getting a decent shot on target, instead of miskicking it out of play.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 36 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball.
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I don't think a keeper can clatter into someone when Jota changes his direction and initiates the contact with the keeper. Just to be clear, this, as you say was due to him missing his kick when trying to lift it over the keeper and then trying to readjust his body....but it is that readjustment that causes the contact.
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I don't think you can initiate contact with somebody flying at you full speed, no matter what Jota did he was getting clattered. You can clearly see Jota's eyes on the ball the whole time and when the ball went left, Jota went left, only to be clattered.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 22 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball. The second question is whether Jota had lost control of the ball. This is difficult to answer, even with VAR. Therefore the original decision should have stood. No clear and obvious error.
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Of course Jota had lost control of the ball. He miskicked it out of play ffs.
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It wasn't out of play when he attempted to change direction to go after it. He probably wouldn't have got there, true but you can't be sure. Either way the original decision should have stood, due to not being sure, which is the whole point of clear and obvious. You see them using this phase incorrectly all the time, then they finally have a chance to use it perfectly and they go and change the original decision.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Well this is just wrong. Just because it isn't a penalty doesn't make it a dive. Contact happens all the time where it is neither a foul nor a dive.
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Jota stepping into the keeper and looking for the penalty made it a dive.
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Typical of someone who has never physically played the game at any level
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I played the game for many years mate, believe me. I've got the ACL scars to prove it.
But you don't need to have played the game to recognise a dive. Jota was looking for the penalty straight away. He started to drag his right foot as Ward came across, but there wasn't enough contact to go down, so he stepped into the keeper to initiate contact. If he hadn't been looking for the penalty he'd have had a better chance of getting a decent shot on target, instead of miskicking it out of play.
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This is absolute nonsense. At least the OP is talking nonsense on purpose.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 36 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball.
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I don't think a keeper can clatter into someone when Jota changes his direction and initiates the contact with the keeper. Just to be clear, this, as you say was due to him missing his kick when trying to lift it over the keeper and then trying to readjust his body....but it is that readjustment that causes the contact.
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I don't think you can initiate contact with somebody flying at you full speed, no matter what Jota did he was getting clattered. You can clearly see Jota's eyes on the ball the whole time and when the ball went left, Jota went left, only to be clattered.
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Jota doesn't go left, his puts his right leg to the right and into the keeper. Please tell me you are wumming.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 36 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball.
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I don't think a keeper can clatter into someone when Jota changes his direction and initiates the contact with the keeper. Just to be clear, this, as you say was due to him missing his kick when trying to lift it over the keeper and then trying to readjust his body....but it is that readjustment that causes the contact.
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I don't think you can initiate contact with somebody flying at you full speed, no matter what Jota did he was getting clattered. You can clearly see Jota's eyes on the ball the whole time and when the ball went left, Jota went left, only to be clattered.
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Jota doesn't go left, his puts his right leg to the right and into the keeper. Please tell me you are wumming.
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https://youtu.be/zF0klKLhbVY
Eyes clearly on the ball the whole time, doesn't even know where the keeper is, then shifts his body to go left when he miskicks it. This is obvious in the video.
posted on 24/1/22
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posted on 24/1/22
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 22 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball. The second question is whether Jota had lost control of the ball. This is difficult to answer, even with VAR. Therefore the original decision should have stood. No clear and obvious error.
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Of course Jota had lost control of the ball. He miskicked it out of play ffs.
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It wasn't out of play when he attempted to change direction to go after it. He probably wouldn't have got there, true but you can't be sure. Either way the original decision should have stood, due to not being sure, which is the whole point of clear and obvious. You see them using this phase incorrectly all the time, then they finally have a chance to use it perfectly and they go and change the original decision.
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He doesn't go after the ball. He puts his leg to the right and into the keeper. I think you need to watch it again.
posted on 24/1/22
Although I still agree it should not have been overturned as it is simply down to opinion whether you believe he wasn't getting to the ball, had he not been fouled.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Well this is just wrong. Just because it isn't a penalty doesn't make it a dive. Contact happens all the time where it is neither a foul nor a dive.
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Jota stepping into the keeper and looking for the penalty made it a dive.
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Typical of someone who has never physically played the game at any level
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What, deliberately moving to his right in order - there’s no other explanation for it - to deliberately collide with the goalie?
So that’s football is it? Well I never …
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 22 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball. The second question is whether Jota had lost control of the ball. This is difficult to answer, even with VAR. Therefore the original decision should have stood. No clear and obvious error.
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Of course Jota had lost control of the ball. He miskicked it out of play ffs.
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It wasn't out of play when he attempted to change direction to go after it. He probably wouldn't have got there, true but you can't be sure. Either way the original decision should have stood, due to not being sure, which is the whole point of clear and obvious. You see them using this phase incorrectly all the time, then they finally have a chance to use it perfectly and they go and change the original decision.
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He doesn't go after the ball. He puts his leg to the right and into the keeper. I think you need to watch it again.
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I literally just showed the video which shows this is not the case. If you're going to WUM, at least try to find something to WUM about, not just denying what is actually shown on video
posted on 24/1/22
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 36 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball.
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I don't think a keeper can clatter into someone when Jota changes his direction and initiates the contact with the keeper. Just to be clear, this, as you say was due to him missing his kick when trying to lift it over the keeper and then trying to readjust his body....but it is that readjustment that causes the contact.
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I don't think you can initiate contact with somebody flying at you full speed, no matter what Jota did he was getting clattered. You can clearly see Jota's eyes on the ball the whole time and when the ball went left, Jota went left, only to be clattered.
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Jota doesn't go left, his puts his right leg to the right and into the keeper. Please tell me you are wumming.
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https://youtu.be/zF0klKLhbVY
Eyes clearly on the ball the whole time, doesn't even know where the keeper is, then shifts his body to go left when he miskicks it. This is obvious in the video.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/60104943
22 seconds - Starts to drag his right foot, realises the contact wasn't enough so can't go down.
25 seconds - Steps his right foot across to the keeper and initiates contact.
32 seconds - Clearly looks at the keeper, despite you stating that he never takes his eye off the ball.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Well this is just wrong. Just because it isn't a penalty doesn't make it a dive. Contact happens all the time where it is neither a foul nor a dive.
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Jota stepping into the keeper and looking for the penalty made it a dive.
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Typical of someone who has never physically played the game at any level
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What, deliberately moving to his right in order - there’s no other explanation for it - to deliberately collide with the goalie?
So that’s football is it? Well I never …
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Of course he deliberately moved to the right, he tried to dink the keeper whilst moving left, using his right foot and had to come down somehow. Try doing that move and not moving right. It will look hilarious.
Please also send me the video.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 36 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball.
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I don't think a keeper can clatter into someone when Jota changes his direction and initiates the contact with the keeper. Just to be clear, this, as you say was due to him missing his kick when trying to lift it over the keeper and then trying to readjust his body....but it is that readjustment that causes the contact.
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I don't think you can initiate contact with somebody flying at you full speed, no matter what Jota did he was getting clattered. You can clearly see Jota's eyes on the ball the whole time and when the ball went left, Jota went left, only to be clattered.
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Jota doesn't go left, his puts his right leg to the right and into the keeper. Please tell me you are wumming.
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This is the most classic example of club bias clouding an opinion.
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Have a watch of the video I just posted. I can only assume you haven't seen the same angles that I have.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 36 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball.
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I don't think a keeper can clatter into someone when Jota changes his direction and initiates the contact with the keeper. Just to be clear, this, as you say was due to him missing his kick when trying to lift it over the keeper and then trying to readjust his body....but it is that readjustment that causes the contact.
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I don't think you can initiate contact with somebody flying at you full speed, no matter what Jota did he was getting clattered. You can clearly see Jota's eyes on the ball the whole time and when the ball went left, Jota went left, only to be clattered.
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Jota doesn't go left, his puts his right leg to the right and into the keeper. Please tell me you are wumming.
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https://youtu.be/zF0klKLhbVY
Eyes clearly on the ball the whole time, doesn't even know where the keeper is, then shifts his body to go left when he miskicks it. This is obvious in the video.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/60104943
22 seconds - Starts to drag his right foot, realises the contact wasn't enough so can't go down.
25 seconds - Steps his right foot across to the keeper and initiates contact.
32 seconds - Clearly looks at the keeper, despite you stating that he never takes his eye off the ball.
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I'm out.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 22 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball. The second question is whether Jota had lost control of the ball. This is difficult to answer, even with VAR. Therefore the original decision should have stood. No clear and obvious error.
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Of course Jota had lost control of the ball. He miskicked it out of play ffs.
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It wasn't out of play when he attempted to change direction to go after it. He probably wouldn't have got there, true but you can't be sure. Either way the original decision should have stood, due to not being sure, which is the whole point of clear and obvious. You see them using this phase incorrectly all the time, then they finally have a chance to use it perfectly and they go and change the original decision.
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He doesn't go after the ball. He puts his leg to the right and into the keeper. I think you need to watch it again.
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I literally just showed the video which shows this is not the case. If you're going to WUM, at least try to find something to WUM about, not just denying what is actually shown on video
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No. You showed a video that shows Jota put his right left to his right and into the keeper. The BBC link I have posted shows it from behind and even clearer. It also shows that Jota look at the keeper and knew exactly where he was. You must be wumming.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
I am an ardent Liverpool FC fan, daft in the extreme about my club.
That penalty should not have been given. He’ll be watched now by match officials as a diver.
That’s his fault entirely.
Jota was lucky to escape a yellow card
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Well this is just wrong. Just because it isn't a penalty doesn't make it a dive. Contact happens all the time where it is neither a foul nor a dive.
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Jota stepping into the keeper and looking for the penalty made it a dive.
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Typical of someone who has never physically played the game at any level
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What, deliberately moving to his right in order - there’s no other explanation for it - to deliberately collide with the goalie?
So that’s football is it? Well I never …
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Of course he deliberately moved to the right, he tried to dink the keeper whilst moving left, using his right foot and had to come down somehow. Try doing that move and not moving right. It will look hilarious.
Please also send me the video.
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His right foot lands and he takes another step before stepping to the right. Try again.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 36 minutes ago
The first question is was it a foul? It obviously was as the keeper clattered into him and didn't take the ball.
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I don't think a keeper can clatter into someone when Jota changes his direction and initiates the contact with the keeper. Just to be clear, this, as you say was due to him missing his kick when trying to lift it over the keeper and then trying to readjust his body....but it is that readjustment that causes the contact.
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I don't think you can initiate contact with somebody flying at you full speed, no matter what Jota did he was getting clattered. You can clearly see Jota's eyes on the ball the whole time and when the ball went left, Jota went left, only to be clattered.
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Jota doesn't go left, his puts his right leg to the right and into the keeper. Please tell me you are wumming.
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https://youtu.be/zF0klKLhbVY
Eyes clearly on the ball the whole time, doesn't even know where the keeper is, then shifts his body to go left when he miskicks it. This is obvious in the video.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/60104943
22 seconds - Starts to drag his right foot, realises the contact wasn't enough so can't go down.
25 seconds - Steps his right foot across to the keeper and initiates contact.
32 seconds - Clearly looks at the keeper, despite you stating that he never takes his eye off the ball.
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I'm out.
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Apology accepted.
posted on 24/1/22
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posted on 24/1/22
what a great win though not an easy place to go to and get 3 points no Mo or mane too
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