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comment by NNH (U10730)

posted on 10/5/18

I'll prefer to wait and see what the line-up is like under McLeish's first competitive game in charge, thank you. That usually gives an indication of who is first choice etc.

comment by NNH (U10730)

posted on 10/5/18

Hell, he even made the Champion league team of the group stages whist being in a team that basically got pumped.



That can't be true surely, Ronald thinks he was torn to shreds in every game outside of Scotland.

Surelyyyyyyy not.

posted on 10/5/18

comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RonaldVilliers (U21490)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 23 minutes ago

Tierney isn't better than Rose though or even Bertrand.




Can I nominate this for mental comment of the year?
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Both full internationals.
1 a CL winner in Bertrand.
The other rumoured to be going for 50m and was sensational last season.
Both long term PL stalwarts whereas KT has been rinsed in Europe but looked good in the Premiership in Scotland.

What has Tierney done to be rated higher than either of them?
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As a Spurs fan I would take Tierney over Rose. Danny is second choice at Spurs these days behind Ben Davies. He was not sensational last season either, he was injured at Sunderland in February. We subsequently won 12 of our last 13 without him, and he hasn't nailed down a first team spot since.

Bertrand barely did anything towards his CL winners medal, Djimi Traore has one FFS. Bertrand has helped Southampton nearly get relegated this season.
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Bertrand has been their player of the season so, he has more helped them stay up. Not that it would make a bit of difference about the individual players actual ability. Robertson helped get Hull relegated. Now he's first choice and probably been our 3rd best player since the new year about to walk out in a CL final.

posted on 10/5/18

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by RonaldVilliers (U21490)
posted 4 minutes ago
what a player has achieved is not a good barometer for their ability.

Dumbfounded at that.
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Edison braffheid played for Bayern Munich and in a world cup final
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Where did you get that info?!
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he came on in the final to replace Gio V Bronkhorst, 5 mins later he lost Iniesta who then scored to win the final for Spain.

Remember scratching my head why they made the change!!

posted on 10/5/18

comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 52 seconds ago

When has he come up against a genuinely top player and got the better of them?




Arjen Robben.


Next
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He's was top class but he's now 34 and spends loads of his time injured and they still pumped you.

comment by NNH (U10730)

posted on 10/5/18

He's was top class but he's now 34 and spends loads of his time injured and they still pumped you.




Oh dear.

posted on 10/5/18

comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago

Hell, he even made the Champion league team of the group stages whist being in a team that basically got pumped.



That can't be true surely, Ronald thinks he was torn to shreds in every game outside of Scotland.

Surelyyyyyyy not.
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is that a thing?

Does Garth Crooks pick it?

comment by My POV (U10636)

posted on 10/5/18

comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by RonaldVilliers (U21490)
posted 4 minutes ago
what a player has achieved is not a good barometer for their ability.

Dumbfounded at that.
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Edison braffheid played for Bayern Munich and in a world cup final
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where did you get that info?!
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he came on in the final to replace Gio V Bronkhorst, 5 mins later he lost Iniesta who then scored to win the final for Spain.

Remember scratching my head why they made the change!!
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I was meaning I had already used him as an example earlier in the thread.

posted on 10/5/18

comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 26 minutes ago
EPL teams pay a premium

That's the monster they have created themselves , if they want to take the best players from Scotland as a gamble they might come good for them then I think they need to pay the price

Vvd, Wanyama , Foster , young , ledley , Davis have all represented great value to the clubs they joined even if the fees in Scotland for most of those players seemed high
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Fraser Forster is bollox, he couldn't save himself

posted on 10/5/18

comment by The Real Jesus of Nazareth (U21721)
posted 8 minutes ago
Anything around £15 million and hell be off (if he wants to go)

I find the high price of players playing in the Spfl a bit of a joke, the standard is pretty poor up here.

Yes Tierney is a good player and yes hes had a couple of decent performances in europe, but he's still a massive gamble if a big club want him.

Probably see Burnley or Everton chancing their arm on him but thats about it.

What Scottish player has gone down to the EPL and excelled in the past 10 years?

Charlie Adam did extremely well
Macarthur has done ok
Arfield was a real threat on form but inconsistent
Naismith did ok but again really inconsistent
Robertson obviously the best of them and truly looks a class player

Who else?
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Van dijk is now the most expensive defender in the world.

posted on 10/5/18

comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 47 seconds ago
I'll prefer to wait and see what the line-up is like under McLeish's first competitive game in charge, thank you. That usually gives an indication of who is first choice etc.
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Why not go with who hes already chosen as his first choice, was it Robertson he pumped over to RB?

Nope, and as mentioned earlier its only Celtic fans that argue for KT over Robertson (or play some alternate system to accommodate both of them)

posted on 10/5/18

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by RonaldVilliers (U21490)
posted 4 minutes ago
what a player has achieved is not a good barometer for their ability.

Dumbfounded at that.
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Edison braffheid played for Bayern Munich and in a world cup final
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Where did you get that info?!
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he came on in the final to replace Gio V Bronkhorst, 5 mins later he lost Iniesta who then scored to win the final for Spain.

Remember scratching my head why they made the change!!
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I was meaning I had already used him as an example earlier in the thread.
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Apologies didn't see it ... dipping in and out the thread at present

posted on 10/5/18

comment by timmy (U14278)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by The Real Jesus of Nazareth (U21721)
posted 8 minutes ago
Anything around £15 million and hell be off (if he wants to go)

I find the high price of players playing in the Spfl a bit of a joke, the standard is pretty poor up here.

Yes Tierney is a good player and yes hes had a couple of decent performances in europe, but he's still a massive gamble if a big club want him.

Probably see Burnley or Everton chancing their arm on him but thats about it.

What Scottish player has gone down to the EPL and excelled in the past 10 years?

Charlie Adam did extremely well
Macarthur has done ok
Arfield was a real threat on form but inconsistent
Naismith did ok but again really inconsistent
Robertson obviously the best of them and truly looks a class player

Who else?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Van dijk is now the most expensive defender in the world.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
makes you wonder why he has never been capped for Scotland....details Timmy details Lawyers should be clued up on that

comment by NNH (U10730)

posted on 10/5/18

Why not go with who hes already chosen as his first choice, was it Robertson he pumped over to RB?

Nope, and as mentioned earlier its only Celtic fans that argue for KT over Robertson (or play some alternate system to accommodate both of them)



Has McLeish done that?

I must have missed that mate, do you have a copy of the team lines from that night?

comment by NNH (U10730)

posted on 10/5/18

I also fail to see why KT being moved to RB is a slight on him, if anything it shows that he can be versatile and do a decent job.

Robertson is either left or nothing

posted on 10/5/18

comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by timmy (U14278)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by The Real Jesus of Nazareth (U21721)
posted 8 minutes ago
Anything around £15 million and hell be off (if he wants to go)

I find the high price of players playing in the Spfl a bit of a joke, the standard is pretty poor up here.

Yes Tierney is a good player and yes hes had a couple of decent performances in europe, but he's still a massive gamble if a big club want him.

Probably see Burnley or Everton chancing their arm on him but thats about it.

What Scottish player has gone down to the EPL and excelled in the past 10 years?

Charlie Adam did extremely well
Macarthur has done ok
Arfield was a real threat on form but inconsistent
Naismith did ok but again really inconsistent
Robertson obviously the best of them and truly looks a class player

Who else?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Van dijk is now the most expensive defender in the world.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
makes you wonder why he has never been capped for Scotland....details Timmy details Lawyers should be clued up on that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He made his name in the SPL. So cant be that poor of a league.

posted on 10/5/18

comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RonaldVilliers (U21490)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 23 minutes ago

Tierney isn't better than Rose though or even Bertrand.




Can I nominate this for mental comment of the year?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both full internationals.
1 a CL winner in Bertrand.
The other rumoured to be going for 50m and was sensational last season.
Both long term PL stalwarts whereas KT has been rinsed in Europe but looked good in the Premiership in Scotland.

What has Tierney done to be rated higher than either of them?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

As a Spurs fan I would take Tierney over Rose. Danny is second choice at Spurs these days behind Ben Davies. He was not sensational last season either, he was injured at Sunderland in February. We subsequently won 12 of our last 13 without him, and he hasn't nailed down a first team spot since.

Bertrand barely did anything towards his CL winners medal, Djimi Traore has one FFS. Bertrand has helped Southampton nearly get relegated this season.
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Bertrand has been their player of the season so, he has more helped them stay up. Not that it would make a bit of difference about the individual players actual ability. Robertson helped get Hull relegated. Now he's first choice and probably been our 3rd best player since the new year about to walk out in a CL final.
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I think you will find Dusan Tadic has been saints player of the season - he is a bargain for someone to snap up.

Southampton have let in more goals than West Brom and Stoke, Bertrand has been poor.

posted on 10/5/18

comment by timmy (U14278)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by timmy (U14278)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by The Real Jesus of Nazareth (U21721)
posted 8 minutes ago
Anything around £15 million and hell be off (if he wants to go)

I find the high price of players playing in the Spfl a bit of a joke, the standard is pretty poor up here.

Yes Tierney is a good player and yes hes had a couple of decent performances in europe, but he's still a massive gamble if a big club want him.

Probably see Burnley or Everton chancing their arm on him but thats about it.

What Scottish player has gone down to the EPL and excelled in the past 10 years?

Charlie Adam did extremely well
Macarthur has done ok
Arfield was a real threat on form but inconsistent
Naismith did ok but again really inconsistent
Robertson obviously the best of them and truly looks a class player

Who else?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Van dijk is now the most expensive defender in the world.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
makes you wonder why he has never been capped for Scotland....details Timmy details Lawyers should be clued up on that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He made his name in the SPL. So cant be that poor of a league.
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Yeah hed never kicked a ball before signing for celtic

comment by My POV (U10636)

posted on 10/5/18

comment by The Real Jesus of Nazareth (U21721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 47 seconds ago
I'll prefer to wait and see what the line-up is like under McLeish's first competitive game in charge, thank you. That usually gives an indication of who is first choice etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why not go with who hes already chosen as his first choice, was it Robertson he pumped over to RB?

Nope, and as mentioned earlier its only Celtic fans that argue for KT over Robertson (or play some alternate system to accommodate both of them)
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I know. It’s a mental idea. Find a system that suits the best players we have.

comment by NNH (U10730)

posted on 10/5/18

KT is expected to be named captain of Scotland in McLeish's first competitive game.

Unfortunately for Ronald, he will be in the team.

posted on 10/5/18

comment by timmy (U14278)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by timmy (U14278)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by The Real Jesus of Nazareth (U21721)
posted 8 minutes ago
Anything around £15 million and hell be off (if he wants to go)

I find the high price of players playing in the Spfl a bit of a joke, the standard is pretty poor up here.

Yes Tierney is a good player and yes hes had a couple of decent performances in europe, but he's still a massive gamble if a big club want him.

Probably see Burnley or Everton chancing their arm on him but thats about it.

What Scottish player has gone down to the EPL and excelled in the past 10 years?

Charlie Adam did extremely well
Macarthur has done ok
Arfield was a real threat on form but inconsistent
Naismith did ok but again really inconsistent
Robertson obviously the best of them and truly looks a class player

Who else?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Van dijk is now the most expensive defender in the world.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
makes you wonder why he has never been capped for Scotland....details Timmy details Lawyers should be clued up on that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He made his name in the SPL. So cant be that poor of a league.
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thats not what was asked though, c'mon just read. Someone wanna put this into pics so resident dumba$$ gets it

comment by NNH (U10730)

posted on 10/5/18

Anyway, meeting shortly, have fun and I'll pick this up upon my return.

posted on 10/5/18

Bear logic goes as follows:

Larrson is Scheidt he’d never make it outside Scotland
Wanyama is never a footballer
VVD is never worth £10m
Fraser Foster is never worth £10m

Tore André Flo is worth £11m
El Buffalo is worth £11m

Rangers are coming to get yeez

Say no more

posted on 10/5/18

So according to the Tims.

Tierney is first choice for Scotland.
Tierney is better than the Premier League's 50m rated Danny Rose and CL winner Ryan Bertrand.
This is based on 1 good game against a top player in 34 year old Arjen Robben in a game Celtic lost and performances in the Scottish Premiership.



Or according to the Bears.

Tierney is a very talented young left back with bags of potential that needs to make a move to the Premier League to fulfill that and before grand statements about being better than guys playing many levels above him can be made.

posted on 10/5/18

comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 2 minutes ago

KT is expected to be named captain of Scotland in McLeish's first competitive game.

Unfortunately for Ronald, he will be in the team.
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Who expects that?

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