comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by I am No.4 (U19487)
posted 1 minute ago
Each to their own.
1 think I will say. There isn't a single player ever I would have swapped Cantona for considering what he delivered. Constant 1-0 (Cantona) wins, a title every season he was at the club except when he was banned. The man was gold dust, lightning in a bottle, pure consistent victory. Ronaldo de Lima, Maradona, Cruyff, Best, van Basten or whoever else wouldn't have bettered what Eric did during his United career.
IMO he's on anyone's level when you look at his results.
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At the risk of opening a whole new debate, Mr lightening in a bottle wasn't exactly gold-dust in Europe.
Domestically, during his Utd years he probably is on anyone's level when you look at results. Outside of England then I'm not so sure.
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It's true. But Europe has always been a point of frustration for United.
In truth, and I'm sure Sir Alex would say so himself, given our domestic success over Fergie's reign we should have left Liverpool in the dust when it comes to European cup wins considering you only had 4 when he took over to our 1.
The next manager who writes himself into United folklore on the level of Sir Alex is the man who closes that 2 European cup gap. That could be Jose's perch to attain.
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by I am No.4 (U19487)
posted 1 minute ago
Each to their own.
1 think I will say. There isn't a single player ever I would have swapped Cantona for considering what he delivered. Constant 1-0 (Cantona) wins, a title every season he was at the club except when he was banned. The man was gold dust, lightning in a bottle, pure consistent victory. Ronaldo de Lima, Maradona, Cruyff, Best, van Basten or whoever else wouldn't have bettered what Eric did during his United career.
IMO he's on anyone's level when you look at his results.
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At the risk of opening a whole new debate, Mr lightening in a bottle wasn't exactly gold-dust in Europe.
Domestically, during his Utd years he probably is on anyone's level when you look at results. Outside of England then I'm not so sure.
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When we had him we were restricted by the foreigners rule in Europe, it makes a difference I think.
That could be Jose's perch to attain.
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Good luck with that, he will be gone in a couple of years.
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 2 minutes ago
That could be Jose's perch to attain.
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Good luck with that, he will be gone in a couple of years.
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and in a couple of years you'll still be stuck with wenger, winning f@ck all.
comment by I am No.4 (U19487)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by I am No.4 (U19487)
posted 1 minute ago
Each to their own.
1 think I will say. There isn't a single player ever I would have swapped Cantona for considering what he delivered. Constant 1-0 (Cantona) wins, a title every season he was at the club except when he was banned. The man was gold dust, lightning in a bottle, pure consistent victory. Ronaldo de Lima, Maradona, Cruyff, Best, van Basten or whoever else wouldn't have bettered what Eric did during his United career.
IMO he's on anyone's level when you look at his results.
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At the risk of opening a whole new debate, Mr lightening in a bottle wasn't exactly gold-dust in Europe.
Domestically, during his Utd years he probably is on anyone's level when you look at results. Outside of England then I'm not so sure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's true. But Europe has always been a point of frustration for United.
In truth, and I'm sure Sir Alex would say so himself, given our domestic success over Fergie's reign we should have left Liverpool in the dust when it comes to European cup wins considering you only had 4 when he took over to our 1.
The next manager who writes himself into United folklore on the level of Sir Alex is the man who closes that 2 European cup gap. That could be Jose's perch to attain.
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To be fair he got to 4 finals and won 2 of them, there probably should have been more but when we were at the height of his reign, we also had the best team in the world of any generation to beat. I'm not sure given the quality of opposition he has faced over that time that he can really still be beaten with this stick. A couple of times it was a case of what if? For instance had we beaten Porto that year, or Beckham hadn't gotten injured in that tackle we could possibly have won that game and given the opposition Porto faced on their way to the final we could easily have won it instead.
comment by I am No.4 (U19487)
posted 9 minutes ago
That could be Jose's perch to attain.
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Maybe. Hopefully not though...
let's be honest, if the CL had kept the old qualification rules of the old european cup, united would comfortably be level with/ahead of pool.
they'd still be stuck on 4, and given the increasing dominance of a few leagues in europe - which under the old system would only have had 1 team in the tournament - i'd put money on 13 appearances in the tournament = 3 or 4 wins rather than "just" 2.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 2 minutes ago
That could be Jose's perch to attain.
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Good luck with that, he will be gone in a couple of years.
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and in a couple of years you'll still be stuck with wenger, winning f@ck all.
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Maybe if you spend another half a billion you might finish above us again.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
Sharticle of the day
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Explain
Cantona wasn't great in Europe, but then United were struggling during that period to get their head around European competition. We had just come off the back of the European ban thanks to LFC and were also hampered by the 3 foreigners rule.
Cantona had shown for France that he could do it on the international stage and I believe scored 20 in 40 appearances for them, before he was jettisoned from the national team for offending the French FA.
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 2 minutes ago
That could be Jose's perch to attain.
---
Good luck with that, he will be gone in a couple of years.
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and in a couple of years you'll still be stuck with wenger, winning f@ck all.
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Maybe if you spend another half a billion you might finish above us again.
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sounds like a good plan, presumably exactly what the club is planning to do.
comment by Edinspur - #saynotoShaw (U1109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
Sharticle of the day
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Explain
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Says it all really
Much like your O&G knowledge, you have contributed little again MUDD.
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 2 minutes ago
That could be Jose's perch to attain.
---
Good luck with that, he will be gone in a couple of years.
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and in a couple of years you'll still be stuck with wenger, winning f@ck all.
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Maybe if you spend another half a billion you might finish above us again.
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United could spend half a billion if they chose though. Arsenal couldn't.
Re. Jose
I don't think he'll be around long enough to win the Champions League with United either.
Regarding the difficulty of the Champions league it's obviously harder to win it now, seeing as how nobody manages to retain it. Crying about that doesn't get you closer to winning it though.
comment by Edinspur - #saynotoShaw (U1109)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
They are all hugely overrated though.
Ozil>Cantona
Ronaldinho>GOAT Zidane
Not being as good as Dhino doesn't make you over-rated.
Courtious, Lloris, DDG>Kahn
On par perhaps
Lukaku>Baggio
Coutinho>Riquelme
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edinspur - #saynotoShaw (U1109)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
They are all hugely overrated though.
Ozil>Cantona
Ronaldinho>GOAT Zidane
Not being as good as Dhino doesn't make you over-rated.
Courtious, Lloris, DDG>Kahn
On par perhaps
Lukaku>Baggio
Coutinho>Riquelme
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People didn't tend to bite at this even though there was truth in a lot of it.
Really don't get the Riquelme fuss though, a highligh reel player for me but each to their own.
Bite?
I responded to your comments.
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 17 minutes ago
Bite?
I responded to your comments.
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I didn't mean you, I meant that was a bit of a WUM comment that with truthful undertones.
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posted on 21/2/17
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by I am No.4 (U19487)
posted 1 minute ago
Each to their own.
1 think I will say. There isn't a single player ever I would have swapped Cantona for considering what he delivered. Constant 1-0 (Cantona) wins, a title every season he was at the club except when he was banned. The man was gold dust, lightning in a bottle, pure consistent victory. Ronaldo de Lima, Maradona, Cruyff, Best, van Basten or whoever else wouldn't have bettered what Eric did during his United career.
IMO he's on anyone's level when you look at his results.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
At the risk of opening a whole new debate, Mr lightening in a bottle wasn't exactly gold-dust in Europe.
Domestically, during his Utd years he probably is on anyone's level when you look at results. Outside of England then I'm not so sure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's true. But Europe has always been a point of frustration for United.
In truth, and I'm sure Sir Alex would say so himself, given our domestic success over Fergie's reign we should have left Liverpool in the dust when it comes to European cup wins considering you only had 4 when he took over to our 1.
The next manager who writes himself into United folklore on the level of Sir Alex is the man who closes that 2 European cup gap. That could be Jose's perch to attain.
posted on 21/2/17
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by I am No.4 (U19487)
posted 1 minute ago
Each to their own.
1 think I will say. There isn't a single player ever I would have swapped Cantona for considering what he delivered. Constant 1-0 (Cantona) wins, a title every season he was at the club except when he was banned. The man was gold dust, lightning in a bottle, pure consistent victory. Ronaldo de Lima, Maradona, Cruyff, Best, van Basten or whoever else wouldn't have bettered what Eric did during his United career.
IMO he's on anyone's level when you look at his results.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
At the risk of opening a whole new debate, Mr lightening in a bottle wasn't exactly gold-dust in Europe.
Domestically, during his Utd years he probably is on anyone's level when you look at results. Outside of England then I'm not so sure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When we had him we were restricted by the foreigners rule in Europe, it makes a difference I think.
posted on 21/2/17
That could be Jose's perch to attain.
---
Good luck with that, he will be gone in a couple of years.
posted on 21/2/17
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 2 minutes ago
That could be Jose's perch to attain.
---
Good luck with that, he will be gone in a couple of years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
and in a couple of years you'll still be stuck with wenger, winning f@ck all.
posted on 21/2/17
comment by I am No.4 (U19487)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by I am No.4 (U19487)
posted 1 minute ago
Each to their own.
1 think I will say. There isn't a single player ever I would have swapped Cantona for considering what he delivered. Constant 1-0 (Cantona) wins, a title every season he was at the club except when he was banned. The man was gold dust, lightning in a bottle, pure consistent victory. Ronaldo de Lima, Maradona, Cruyff, Best, van Basten or whoever else wouldn't have bettered what Eric did during his United career.
IMO he's on anyone's level when you look at his results.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
At the risk of opening a whole new debate, Mr lightening in a bottle wasn't exactly gold-dust in Europe.
Domestically, during his Utd years he probably is on anyone's level when you look at results. Outside of England then I'm not so sure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's true. But Europe has always been a point of frustration for United.
In truth, and I'm sure Sir Alex would say so himself, given our domestic success over Fergie's reign we should have left Liverpool in the dust when it comes to European cup wins considering you only had 4 when he took over to our 1.
The next manager who writes himself into United folklore on the level of Sir Alex is the man who closes that 2 European cup gap. That could be Jose's perch to attain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair he got to 4 finals and won 2 of them, there probably should have been more but when we were at the height of his reign, we also had the best team in the world of any generation to beat. I'm not sure given the quality of opposition he has faced over that time that he can really still be beaten with this stick. A couple of times it was a case of what if? For instance had we beaten Porto that year, or Beckham hadn't gotten injured in that tackle we could possibly have won that game and given the opposition Porto faced on their way to the final we could easily have won it instead.
posted on 21/2/17
comment by I am No.4 (U19487)
posted 9 minutes ago
That could be Jose's perch to attain.
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Maybe. Hopefully not though...
posted on 21/2/17
let's be honest, if the CL had kept the old qualification rules of the old european cup, united would comfortably be level with/ahead of pool.
they'd still be stuck on 4, and given the increasing dominance of a few leagues in europe - which under the old system would only have had 1 team in the tournament - i'd put money on 13 appearances in the tournament = 3 or 4 wins rather than "just" 2.
posted on 21/2/17
Sharticle of the day
posted on 21/2/17
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 2 minutes ago
That could be Jose's perch to attain.
---
Good luck with that, he will be gone in a couple of years.
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and in a couple of years you'll still be stuck with wenger, winning f@ck all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe if you spend another half a billion you might finish above us again.
posted on 21/2/17
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
Sharticle of the day
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain
posted on 21/2/17
Cantona wasn't great in Europe, but then United were struggling during that period to get their head around European competition. We had just come off the back of the European ban thanks to LFC and were also hampered by the 3 foreigners rule.
Cantona had shown for France that he could do it on the international stage and I believe scored 20 in 40 appearances for them, before he was jettisoned from the national team for offending the French FA.
posted on 21/2/17
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 2 minutes ago
That could be Jose's perch to attain.
---
Good luck with that, he will be gone in a couple of years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
and in a couple of years you'll still be stuck with wenger, winning f@ck all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe if you spend another half a billion you might finish above us again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
sounds like a good plan, presumably exactly what the club is planning to do.
posted on 21/2/17
comment by Edinspur - #saynotoShaw (U1109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
Sharticle of the day
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Explain
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Says it all really
posted on 21/2/17
Much like your O&G knowledge, you have contributed little again MUDD.
posted on 21/2/17
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 2 minutes ago
That could be Jose's perch to attain.
---
Good luck with that, he will be gone in a couple of years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
and in a couple of years you'll still be stuck with wenger, winning f@ck all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe if you spend another half a billion you might finish above us again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
United could spend half a billion if they chose though. Arsenal couldn't.
Re. Jose
I don't think he'll be around long enough to win the Champions League with United either.
Regarding the difficulty of the Champions league it's obviously harder to win it now, seeing as how nobody manages to retain it. Crying about that doesn't get you closer to winning it though.
posted on 21/2/17
comment by Edinspur - #saynotoShaw (U1109)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
They are all hugely overrated though.
Ozil>Cantona
Ronaldinho>GOAT Zidane
Not being as good as Dhino doesn't make you over-rated.
Courtious, Lloris, DDG>Kahn
On par perhaps
Lukaku>Baggio
Coutinho>Riquelme
posted on 21/2/17
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edinspur - #saynotoShaw (U1109)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
They are all hugely overrated though.
Ozil>Cantona
Ronaldinho>GOAT Zidane
Not being as good as Dhino doesn't make you over-rated.
Courtious, Lloris, DDG>Kahn
On par perhaps
Lukaku>Baggio
Coutinho>Riquelme
----------------------------------------------------------------------
People didn't tend to bite at this even though there was truth in a lot of it.
Really don't get the Riquelme fuss though, a highligh reel player for me but each to their own.
posted on 21/2/17
Bite?
I responded to your comments.
posted on 21/2/17
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posted on 21/2/17
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posted on 21/2/17
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 17 minutes ago
Bite?
I responded to your comments.
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I didn't mean you, I meant that was a bit of a WUM comment that with truthful undertones.
posted on 21/2/17
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posted on 21/2/17
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posted on 21/2/17
Dunno
posted on 21/2/17
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